BigAg didn't hire politicians to eliminate MTBE, but to enrich themselves with taxpayer subsidies and a MANDATED corn ethanol consumption.
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BigAg didn't hire politicians to eliminate MTBE, but to enrich themselves with taxpayer subsidies and a MANDATED corn ethanol consumption.
I haven't seen the numbers in some time. I'm thinking outside of the corn subidies, which I don't recall seeing a number on, that the ethanol itself is at $0.50 per gallon.Quote:
Originally Posted by sickdsm
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We pay the Petroleum Companies (sometimes the ethanol companies get the subsidy..but generally the petro companies do the blending and gets the blending credit of 51 cents per gallon) That's right , there is a blending credit of 51 cents for every gallon of ethanol blended with Gasoline.. which works very well when used as designed to build out the real alternative fuel.. E85.
http://e85prices.com/e10-ethanol.htm
So you bring up the ethanol subsidies then proceed to point out the subsidy in question is more of a petroleum subsidy?
TB's editorial implies that the ethanol lobbyists are a juggernaut
Such is the power of the corn ethanol lobby.
If the ethanol lobbyists are butting heads with big oil, does one really believe that ethanol is such a mightier force than the oil lobbyists?
I love blender pumps, i use e30 to e-50 all the time not bc its ethanol but that it saves me money at the pump. I see no noticable decrease in MPG, either with or without a flex fuel vehicle.
I will blend my own by topping off with e85 once in a while also.
I get horrible mileage on anything more than 10%. The local Kroger nets shitty mileage but its cheap. I get 2-4 mpg better on top tier...QT for instance than the Kroger swill. I save more on a tank on mileage than I save on a tank of cheapo.
.60 break even for me on e85. Not surprising to see $1 difference.
I imagine without ethanol the unemployment rate would be more like the rest of the country.
Iowa Voters Have Given Up On Ethanol; Presidential Candidates Are Following Suit
The fortunes of the wonder fuel that promised to help clean the environment, secure America and save small family farms have steadily dwindled as environmentalists, food advocates and auto enthusiasts sour on its promise. Now that fuel, corn-based ethanol, finds itself threatened with a defection that was once unthinkable: Iowa voters.
The electorate here in the early voting state often defined by its vast expanses of corn has long demanded that candidates pledge allegiance to government production mandates for millions of gallons of ethanol, the homegrown product. But as the 2016 White House hopefuls traverse the state, they are seeing that Iowans have grown strikingly ambivalent.
The Republican presidential contender now polling strongest in Iowa, Ted Cruz, is campaigning on an energy platform that would have been a death wish in elections past. Cruz, the U.S. senator from Texas, is an unabashed opponent of giving ethanol any special government help. He derides it as the worst kind of central planning. He champions legislation to wipe out the decade-old Renewable Fuel Standard, which mandates large amounts of ethanol get blended into the nation’s gas supply.
“Voters here are just not that interested in ethanol anymore,” said Steffen Schmidt, a professor of political science at Iowa State University. “You don’t even hear the word come out the mouths of candidates much.”
There are myriad reasons, not the least of which is a modern-day Republican electorate that takes pride in bucking the established order and is increasingly absolute in its disdain for subsidies. But it is also about the shifting politics of renewable fuels in a state where small family farms have given way to much bigger agribusinesses.
Only a fraction of the state’s voters work in the corn industry these days. There is as much buzz on the campaign trail in Iowa about wind power as there is about ethanol.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/iowa-vot..._frequency_six
So Repug politicians are against the ethanol scam?
And BigAg's $Ms in corruption to the Repugs?
google isn't showing what happened to ethanol in the new budget.
fuck ethanol
we don't count. It all depends on how much BigAg pays Congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy