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Originally Posted by Th'Pusher
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
You can always google "US Entitlement Programs" and see what you get.
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Originally Posted by ElNono
You guys aren't being serious.
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Good to hear you won't be bitching about foodstamps though.
Maybe now that you're done making an idiot of yourself in this thread you can go back to the climate thread and continue making an idiot of yourself there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
I get that Darrin makes a fun and easy target, but he's right that when a political conversation is being held about entitlements, that conversation is about SS, medicare and medicaid.
Not here. How many discussions we had about Affirmative Action, foodstamps, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
Just do a search on the board for "entitlement mentality". You'll be surprised.
In all fairness, as a star on Fox Megyn Kelly would have gotten maternity leave with or without the FMLA.
Is it an entitlement if it just grants you something you already have?
Are medical leaves monitored by the government now?
I did, and most of what I see are posts from 2008 about religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Sure, you can make a bunch of different things fit into the entitlement definition, but when a politician or pundit stands up to talk about entitelements, they're talking about those three specific programs. To pretend otherwise is just being obtuse.
Does the government lose anything on account of medical leaves?
Do tax payers have their pay taxed in order to make these medical leaves possible?
Are apples oranges?
If you need a law to say that your job will be protected while you take leave, I think it's fair to say that the law entitles you to leave. Before that law, you had the option to take leave but only by gambling that a job would remain available to you upon your return.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Do govt employees get paid on maternity leave?....
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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
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The Federal Government offers numerous leave flexibilities to assist employees in meeting their work and family obligations, including paid time off for childbirth and adoption and care of the newborn or adopted child. Federal employee leave benefits are based on employee service credit and time in a pay status. A new employee begins Government service accruing 13 days of annual leave each year. After 3 years of service, the annual leave accrual rate increases to 20 days each year, and at 15 years of service, the employee accrues 26 days of annual leave each leave year. The amount of annual leave that may be carried over from one leave year to the next is capped at 240 hours (30 days) for most employees. At any time in the leave year, an agency may advance to an employee the amount of annual leave he or she would accrue during the remainder of the leave year.
The things that Kelly was railing about before her leave weren't confined to those programs. In the "before" clips, Kelly specifically railed about the idea that FMLA gives men the right to take leave after the birth of their child without any mention of pay; in the "after" clip, Kelly scolds her guest about the availability of leave for men under the FMLA (even going so far as to note its availability for 12 weeks) and suggests that the post-childbirth allowance for leave in this country is insufficient because it doesn't require that such leave be paid leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
I don't think the point of this is about politicians in general, nor could Stewart's clip establish that point. But Stewart shows the changed view of Megyn Kelly and her fierce support of the entitlement to leave after childbirth and leaves it to viewers to conclude that she might be a hypocrite who enjoys the fruits of an entitlement policy that she has so vigorously challenged in the past.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...34#post5287834
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...68#post5237768
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...09#post5132309
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...98#post4999298
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...97#post4988097
That's just this year alone. Not surprised to see the usual suspects though.
I'm not saying Kelly isn't a hypocrite. I'm just agreeing with Darrin that when someone says "entitlement program" they're not talking about FMLA.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Ok. The point?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Same as before. Not all people talking about 'entitlements' restrict them to SS, Medicare, and Medicaid.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
"entitlement mentality" =/= "entitlement program"Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
But, since we can rest assured that WC will eventually stumble upon this thread to discuss all the keener points of the context of the video in the OP, we can let him weigh in on what programs he thinks are being referred to when someone talks about entitlement programs.
But Darrin's comment wasn't about programs:Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
So we're discussing this as an entitlement vs non-entitlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Not sure where 'programs' came into play.