You said it..just ask the millions of Syrians and Iranians who are still alive today..Quote:
Yep, Obama and Romney are nothing alike
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You said it..just ask the millions of Syrians and Iranians who are still alive today..Quote:
Yep, Obama and Romney are nothing alike
Nbadan, Syria and Iran are the tie breaker for me. Obama being more diplomatic with the middle east than Romney is are why I'm probably voting for him. If not for that issue, I'd be truly indifferent. Point being, foreign policy is the exception with two candidates who are pretty similar in countless other ways.
Unfortunately, for most people, Syria and Iran will fall way down the list of Economic and abortion rights concerns..the GOP has to keep playing the economy-is-struggling because unemployment is at 8.2%, a rate which many nations envy, meme...it's what they've banked the 2012 election on...Quote:
Nbadan, Syria and Iran are the tie breaker for me
If I actually thought Romney would handle the economy in a much better way than Obama does, I'd vote for him.
However, anyone who thinks Romney will be any better for the economy than Obama is a moron :lol
Then in your eyes, I am a moron.
At least I'm not a Moore-on!
Then in your eyes, I am a moron.
At least I'm not a Moore-on!
Obama supports closing Gitmo? You fuckin serious? Last time I checked, that funhouse that holds terrorists/terror suspects is still open and running.
Why can't Obama lovers and supporters admit that he is very similar to Bush and Romney? Is it about pride and arrogance?
What they all refuse to understand is there are things in place already that cannot be changed without congress first voting to change it.
I made a prediction someplace here in this forum before Obama was elected, that if elected, that when he was briefed in the secret meetings, that he wouldn't put an end to the war. My God.... I never thought he would expand it!
Let's see...he signed an executive order to close GITMO
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During a signing ceremony at the White House, Obama reaffirmed his inauguration pledge that the United States does not have "to continue with a false choice between our safety and our ideals."
The president said he was issuing the order to close the facility in order to "restore the standards of due process and the core constitutional values that have made this country great even in the midst of war, even in dealing with terrorism."
A second executive order formally bans torture by requiring that the Army field manual be used as the guide for terrorism interrogations. That essentially ends the Bush administration's CIA program of enhanced interrogation methods.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/...der/index.html
News reports are that Obama still wants to close GITMO
Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...nH1UxCKNKo62YNQuote:
WASHINGTON — The White House insisted on Monday that President Barack Obama was determined to close Guantanamo Bay, despite failing to do so by the war on terror camp's 10th anniversary this week.
Obama declared within a few hours of taking office in January 2009 that he would shutter the camp within a year, saying it was used as a recruiting tool for terrorists, and detrimental to US national security.
But in the face of deep opposition in Congress to moving inmates to the US mainland and over the idea of holding civil trials for key Al-Qaeda suspects, Obama has failed to live up to his vow.
"The commitment that the president has to closing Guantanamo Bay is as firm today as it was during the (2008) campaign," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
I didn't know Gitmo closed. When did that happen?
The fact of the matter is Obama signed an executive order to close Gitmo within a year on January 22, 2009. Congress voted 90-6 against providing funds in order to close it. Many Americans wanted and still want Gitmo closed but don't want the Prisoners in their "backyards". The matter is where to move them, and in order to move them, Congress needs to provide the funding in order to do so. While this is a campaign promise broken, Obama didn't break it. Congress did. He still reiterates wanting to close it. The executive order is there, but no funding to do it.
So his actions were worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
rather ineffective president, isn't he?
And it had less to do with funding, but there were more serious concerns that didn't allow it to close.
Yeah, like politicsQuote:
And it had less to do with funding, but there were more serious concerns that didn't allow it to close
Or...perhaps Obama doesn't believe that one branch of government should act omnipotent to other branches of government....Quote:
rather ineffective president, isn't he?
Until Gitmo is closed, Obama is like Bush on the issue. Case closed.
I mean seriously, why can't Obama lovers and supporters state the obvious truth? Their guy is a fraud and a joke just like evil dummy Bush. No better, no worse, Just the same fuckin' guy.
You are a blind partisan...case closed.Quote:
Until Gitmo is closed, Obama is like Bush on the issue. Case closed.
If I'm partisan, then why do I say that Obama and Bush are the same and similar? Liberals think Obama is Jesus Christ while neo-cons think that Obama is the fuckin' anti-Christ.
And please don't attempt to call me a Bush supporter. If I was a Bush supporter then why would I think that it's highly possible that Bush may have had information about the 9/11 attacks before they happened? Thank you.