part of that lost weight was the aspartame eating holes in your brainQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
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part of that lost weight was the aspartame eating holes in your brainQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Another truther?Quote:
Originally Posted by Y.H.
You are not immune to high cholesterol, you're just young.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoK
Get a little sun and convert it to Vitamin D.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Yuk...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
If you drink sodas, buy the "throwbacks." They went back to cane sugar. Some sugar is good for you. Just not that high fructose corn syrup or artificial sweeter.
if someone is in poor health condition at a relatively young age, im not saying all but in most cases its because he is too lazy to take any exercise & eats too much junk food or has sex way too often. im a celibate and a vegan thats why im so MF'N healthy i guess
wtf? how is sex bad for you, unless you're engaging in gay sex with someone who has the aids? sex is a form of cardio, and it's great for your mental health as well. how you've made it 20+ years without dropping a load in a female and still remain sane is unbelievableQuote:
Originally Posted by Y.H.
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Y.H.
Vegan...
You'll be lucky to live into your 60's.
No shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franklin
Daily sex keeps the prostrate healthy.
That was misleading. Only one person actually yelled "yes", if you watch the video, not really the entire crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeChalupa
They did applaud the "take personal responsibility part".
That said, it was pretty telling that RP would essentially apply the death penalty for someone who chose or couldn't afford insurance.
"We expect society to care for everyone", as if that was undesirable or immoral.
I generally call this the "war on the poor" waged rather relentlessly by the right in this country. Sad that we went from a war on poverty to "fuck the poor, they have only themselves to blame for being poor".
How does that keep those who lie down on the ground healthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
:p:
Sugar is sugar is sugar. Ask any chemist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
That was one of the "silly" things that my wifes organic chemistry professor harped on.
I have maybe a soda once per week or so, and I have come to like the "half" option.
Many places that let you self serve have a little button for "soda" that is just water and carbonation without any syrup.
I have found that if you go half soda water, and half any regular flavored syrup soda, it is just as good. Better actually, IMO, because it isn't overwhelmingly sweet.
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Originally Posted by jack sommerset
First and foremost you're an idiot.
Are you trying to compare our public healthcare system to an individual's personal finances?
That's real stupid.
That's why we pay taxes you fool. Our taxes collectively fund what currently is considered public medicine. There will never be a time where one citizen will ever have to go bankrupt to help someone like you, so the question is ridculous and makes no sense.
"Sugar is sugar is sugar. Ask any chemist."
bullshit. chemists aren't biochemists, aren't metabolic chemists.
all are carbohydrates, but sucrose, dextrose, fructose are metabolized differently.
eg, fructose (corn "sugar" industrially polluting nearly everything to sucker people's sweet tooth) is metabolized in the liver. There's so much of it that NAFLD (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, aka "foie gras") is now widespread in all age groups. NAFLD is related to insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome, also appearing in younger age groups, along with CVD.
It's All Good (for sick-care profits, after the food corps have profited from selling the taxpayer-subsidized garbage).
A celibate vegan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Y.H.
:lmao
Why would you want to live a long life?
:lol anyone who is taking Y.H.'s post seriously
Back on point, I'm liberal, but this is where I'm sickened by how little accountability liberals want Americans to have. If someone who can't afford healthcare has been a chain smoker for 30 years and gets diagnosed with lung cancer, denying them free healthcare isn't "sentencing them to the death penalty." It's Americans not wanting their tax dollars they worked hard to earn foot the bill for an irresponsible jackass who didn't bother to figure out what puffing smoke down his lungs might lead to.
As for the original question. A guy that works and can afford insurance but chooses not to have any and gets in an accident. What to do? In my opinion we should save his life, stabilize him and do the absolute minimum necessary to get him out of the hospital. Then send him a bill for services rendered.
"Absolute minimum" for life-threating major vehicle crashes easily runs into the low six figures. (personal experience reviewing actual medical claims at HMOs)Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Leading cause of bankruptcy in the US: medical bills.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...tcy_study.html
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...064_666715.htm
Even in Ron Paul's world of "everyone for himself", everyone else would still be footing the bill for the uninsured.Quote:
The study was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and published online June 4 by the American Journal of Medicine. It will appear in the Journal's August print edition. The researchers examined the court records of a random sample of 2,314 bankruptcy filings across the nation during early 2007, and also contacted those filers for written explanations. The researchers then followed up with extensive phone interviews of 1,032 of those filers.
They found that a number of medical factors contributed to a family's financial disaster. More than 90% of medically related bankruptcies were caused by high medical bills directly or medical costs that were so high the family was forced to mortgage their home. The remaining 8% went bankrupt because a medical problem caused them to lose income. The authors were not able to track credit-card defaults caused by medical bills, but a 2007 study found that, of low- and middle-income households with credit-card debt, 29% used their plastic to pay off medical expenses.
Higher lending costs (lenders taking write-downs in bankruptcies) and higher insurance premium costs (hospitals have to charge insurers extra) would still be felt by everybody.
If you are not prepared to let such a person literally die in the ER by withholding treatment, you are forcing cost-shifting onto the rest of society.
Congratulations, CC, you are officially a socialist. :p:
US smoking population seems to have reached a lower asymptote.
Why not make cigarettes illegal? Including illegal to manufacture in USA? The cigarette companies are now targeting Asia and Africa youth since Western Europeans and North Americans are educated about the risks of tobacco.
Take away the corporate profits from pushing cigarette drugs?
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...ted_mortality/
for-profit and govt insurance probably wastes $50K-$200K per 440K smoking-related deaths per year, EVERY year. Lung cancer has a 5-year mortality rate of 90%.
Cig companies buy enough politicians to be protected by making cigarettes illegal.
"let such a person literally die in the ER by withholding treatment"
licensed doctors are sworn not to refuse treatment.
What do they do with the foodstamps? Trade them for drugs? They certainly aren't buying beer with them since the government tightly restricts what can be bought. I don't think they're even allowed to buy perishable food - aside from like fruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by mingus
plenty of people who have ciagarettes only do them socially. same with alcohol. and if you can pay for the insurance (which i hear premiums are going to increase by $30 a month so good luck), then have at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
then again i smoke socially so i'm probably biased. but i also have insurance.
Old Dirty Bastard buying his food stamps:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYy1QI6ZOeY
LOL
food stamps are pretty easy to get and the system is easily exploitable. the government's oversight w/ regards to it is a complete disgrace.
Not really. You could just make those costs non-dischargeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
same with medicare/medicaid, both seem to be rampantly defrauded, not by crooks only, but by 3rd parties, docs, hospitals, etc.