Biggest boos in GOP debate reserved for gay soldier in Iraq

Seriously no one chastised the people who booed?

And someone needs to tell Santorum the social experiment is over.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Seriously no one chastised the people who booed?

And someone needs to tell Santorum the social experiment is over.

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None of the candidates, no.

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Originally Posted by DMX7

Stop your lying. You don't give a shit about anything other than the "R" next to their name.

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I would prefer a "L", but dimply not accept any of the "D" who have run. That effectively only leaves the "R".

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Seriously no one chastised the people who booed?

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Why would they when there is no political gain in doing so. I've never heard a democratic candidate take on the crazies on the left during a primary run. It would be politically dumb to do so.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

And someone needs to tell Santorum the social experiment is over.

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No need to tell him anything, he's irrelevant.

Was it a boo?

One voice sounded like a "no" to me.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Was it a boo?

One voice sounded like a "no" to me.

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maybe they spotted a spook.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Why would they when there is no political gain in doing so. I've never heard a democratic candidate take on the crazies on the left during a primary run. It would be politically dumb to do so.

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It could easily be done to cater to militarism and jingoism in the audience.

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Originally Posted by cheguevara

Zero applause. Plenty of boos.

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I hear the opposite. Plenty of applause and no boos.

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Originally Posted by clambake

maybe they spotted a spook.

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Listen carefully.

I hear two voices. One is a clear "no." The other sounds like support of what the soldier says.

Plug some good headphones in, instead of listening through your computer speakers.

um, everyone, fox news, ari fleischer, cnn, everyone is chastising those in the crowd for booing that soldier. Additionally everyone is pretty pissed that no one had the spine to stand up and tell those people to stfu.

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Originally Posted by Drachen

um, everyone, fox news, ari fleischer, cnn, everyone is chastising those in the crowd for booing that soldier.

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yah...but.....we're they wearing headphones.....really good ones...or just listening to their computer speakers?

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Originally Posted by Drachen

um, everyone, fox news, ari fleischer, cnn, everyone is chastising those in the crowd for booing that soldier. Additionally everyone is pretty pissed that no one had the spine to stand up and tell those people to stfu.

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Why do people continue to believe the OP instead of listening for yourself?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Why do people continue to believe the OP instead of listening for yourself?

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You think news organizations are using SpursTalk as a source?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Why do people continue to believe the OP instead of listening for yourself?

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I watched the debate in its entirety on a TV last night. I heard it for myself then. I was mad about it then.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You think news organizations are using SpursTalk as a source?

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When on the receiving end of it, your posting style can suck. Reading as a third party, however, sometimes is funny as shit.

This would be one of those times.

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Originally Posted by scott

My opinion is that it is completely fair to say the people booing were a fringe, extreme minority of the people there.

My concern is that these kind of expressions are left unchecked and it becomes acceptable behavior. I don't mean we need to outlaw booing gays in the military, which is protected speech. But the freedom of speech also includes the freedom of your dumb ass to be ridiculed when you say some stupid shit. That "check" is missing from a lot of these examples at the Republican debates (just as its missing from examples all over the country from liberals and conservatives alike).

We probably have fringe extremists at the 10% tails of both sides, leaving the rest of the 80% of America who operate on varying degrees of reasonableness. However, maybe there is the next 10-20% next to the tails whose views aren't THAT different, and could be persuaded. That is where the unchecked message does the most damage.

The best analogy I can think of:

If no one says anything to the bully on the playground picking on the small kid, then a lot of people are going to think that bully is "cool". But if a large group of students stands up, calls out, and denounces the bully - then his actions are no longer "cool".

For better or worse (usually worse), society relies on peer pressure over an actual set of hard ethics to determine how we feel about things, and that is the danger of these sorts of things (which is why I feel a personal obligation to call out boutons and Wild Cobra at every opportunity, because they are the internet equivalent).

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This.

Ultimately, people have a right to be hateful and ignorant. I was more bothered by the fact no one attempted to shut the crowd up after disrespecting the troops they've been telling us to support for all these years.

That, and I was amused to pieces at watching the gears creak around in Santorum's head as he tried to figure out how to reconcile reinstating DADT without kicking folks who have now asked and told out of the service.

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Originally Posted by clambake

yah...but.....we're they wearing headphones.....really good ones...or just listening to their computer speakers?

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Computer speakers.

And they probably couldn't see the secret hand signals, either, because they don't have high resolution monitors and special eyes.

Good thing no one in the crowd yelled "Let's take the sons of bitches out!", the fake outrage from the left would be unbearable.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

So, according to Santorum, heterosexual members would not be able to "out" themselves either, to make it fair. So no dating, marriage, having children, etc etc...

That sounds like it would work.

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His answer was just so blatantly dishonest. This kind of shit just infuriates me and its pointless because there's nothing I can do about it. I get so angry when any politician sits up there and flat out says something they know is not true. They basically think I'm too stupid to recognize what they're doing and I just find that infuriating.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Good thing no one in the crowd yelled "Let's take the sons of bitches out!", the fake outrage from the left would be unbearable.

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Fake outrage? No, there is no fake outrage at all. There is real outrage at the idiocy of booing the man and outrage at the stupid comments that ensued.

Not sure why you would think there was any fake outrage when whats there is pretty damn offensive, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I hear the opposite. Plenty of applause and no boos.

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What
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Fuck.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Fake outrage? No, there is no fake outrage at all. There is real outrage at the idiocy of booing the man and outrage at the stupid comments that ensued.

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:lol My mistake, of course it's real for you. I forgot that outrage is only fake when it's the other side that's outraged.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

:lol My mistake, of course it's real for you. I forgot that outrage is only fake when it's the other side that's outraged.

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I'm a bit confused. Was the outrage on your side real when Hoffa said to take out Republicans through the electoral process?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I'm a bit confused. Was the outrage on your side real when Hoffa said to take out Republicans through the electoral process?

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No it was fake imo, just as this "outrage" is.

LOL at you changing what Hoffa said.

Conclusion: Never believe what you hear through your computer/TV speakers!