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Doesn't even bother to show up with a chance to give the death blow to the Pistons.
And as usual, when played physically Duncan cowered away from the paint and settled for jumpers all night long. weak shit.
Thanks to Tony Parker and Brent Barry for showing up, too bad your teammates didn't catch the same bus.
Agreed
Duncan has to play better. Plain and simple. He had some good chances to make plays and instead he puts up weak shots and is still getting burned on the other end (watching Dyess shoot) etc..
I recognize everyone save for Parker and Barry are playing like shit, but Duncan has to do better. Plain and simple.
Why don't u lock this thread too. :rolleyes
Agreed.
Keep going to the hole tim and throwing up your WNBA hook and not upfakin, thanks for not showin up MVP.
ZStomp, show me where there's other identical threads.
Thanks.
Duncan was the Spurs worst player tonight. He looked like a total quitter tonight, which is very disappointing.
Aggie is a herbster!
Big Ben really bothered Tim when he defended him. Duncan doesn't do as well against physical guys who are bigger than the average power forward. The tone was set early, and he never got into a rhythm. He's not catching the ball low like he did in game one, and he's not very effective at all.
The team was very disappointing tonight. They didn't play with much fire. They turned the ball over. Their defense retreated and disappeared. They were sloppy.
Hopefully they'll get this game out of their system and be fine. But they've lost four in a row in the playoffs before, including last year. They need to come out with some more passion on Thursday.
Sure, Detroit played better tonight than they've been playing. But the Spurs folded.
Very disappointing.
This is the Bizarro Spurs tonight. Barry has balls where no one else does :rolleyes
Duncan and Manu were the biggest Pussies on the planet tonight. Fuck you two. I hope you don't sleep a lick tonight. Wake up dickwads, this is the Finals.
You love to diss the spurs when they lose eh ahf?
I did hope they got owneed so they realizd they had to show up..
The thing is you dont need to worry about that one.
Beno is playing like the trash his mullet haircut makes him appear to be.
I think Manu was totally slowed by the leg injury. I just hope he makes it back at full health. Timmy was terrible for his standards. Still like our chances in game 4.
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
[Sarcasm/]
They didn't play good. We should have known when they got a turnover and a three point play against them on the first play. Detroit got them one.
Woulda been nice if Manu and Tim had showed up tonight.
Evidentally they missed the flight to Detroit.
I can't believe all the hate for your own team. You lost..so what..It's one game. And to say it's simply because you played poorly, and to give no credit to our D is pretty poor aswell. (that comment obviously does not go to all Spur fans...) Love your team win or lose.......
The Spurs had em where they wanted em.
Up by 3 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd, you finish that quarter with the lead, you practically kill em.
But no, got stupid, stopped playing PERIOD, no more rebounding, no more hustle.
You dont mind losing having a bad shooting night and the other team making tough shots.
Its when they outhustle, outrebound, and just plain out tough you, for the win.
THATS what pisses you off.
Im not gonna make a big deal that they lost, it just pisses me off how we lose. In every series are losses have been cause we played like Pussies, i would be fine if we lost by 5-7 points but we always get killed after when have a few good games,
Same old Spurs. Fuck this is disappointing.
I knew we might be in trouble when they asked Pop what he talked to the team about before tonight's game and he said "Nothing - they know how important this game is and what they should be doing." or something along those lines. When is Pop going to learn that this team can't yet be trusted to coach themselves because of their complacency problems? It's only happened every year in the playoffs including this one.
Anyhow, this one is far from being just on Pop as our MVP decided he just wasn't even going to try tonight. WTF was Tim doing out there anyhow? He didn't even look like he was trying. Very frustrating.
The Pistons came out strong but we got the better of them in the first quarter and then played like we just thought they'd go away. The Pistons weren't even playing particularly well right up until the half. We had a chance to stomp them in the third and we just came out completely flat. They played better than at the SBC to be sure but they certainly weren't dominating until we let the game get out of hand in the fourth with our lackadaisical play.
I just hope Manu is ok because this game really showed me how much he's been bailing us out lately with his energy sparking runs when we need them. He clearly wasn't himself after that thigh bruise and it showed. Parker tried to rally the troops but no one seemed interested. I have to mention again how much Duncan let me down though. He flat out sucked tonight and didn't look like he was even trying.
Alota guys here cant understand that its a 7 game series. You get this response after every loss. Sometimes even some fans "give up" on the team. All that matters is winning four games. Some people have a hard time understanding that. Welcome to SpursTalk. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Pistons > Spurs
One loss and everyone jumps ship. Losers.
Who's giving up? Name five posters who have said that they are giving up on the Spurs this series. You look like an idiot when you make shit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dre_7
I was talkin about the other series. Walton Buys Me off (or wateva his name is) and others. I wasnt talkin about this series. Sorry bout the confussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodels
Hey, it worked for your team in the first two games. What was it Rip said? "Bowen didn't do nothing, I got every shot I wanted."Quote:
And to say it's simply because you played poorly, and to give no credit to our D is pretty poor aswell.
A-fucking-men.Quote:
I knew we might be in trouble when they asked Pop what he talked to the team about before tonight's game and he said "Nothing - they know how important this game is and what they should be doing." or something along those lines. When is Pop going to learn that this team can't yet be trusted to coach themselves because of their complacency problems? It's only happened every year in the playoffs including this one.
If I may add, my one big gripe with Pop tonight.... he brings in Brent Barry to hit threes in the playoffs, Brent Barry was hitting threes like they were layups tonight, and he was anchored to the bench.
Stupid.
There's a difference between giving up and being disappointed with the team's play. Many here can't grasp that difference.
If you were able to grasp that, you'd realize that nobody is giving up.
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"Nothing - they know how important this game is and what they should be doing."
2 hand,
wanna show me what is incorrect about that???
Hes right, he shouldnt have to rally the troops, he shouldnt have to scream, this team shouldve came into this game with a killer atttitude and they didnt.
Remember what they say, the team follows the leader, and Duncan was lacksadasical, and totally dead.
The team followed his example and came out flat ass.
Big ups to Tony Parker and Brent Barry,
you guys were stellar and awesome.
OUghtta keep the Tony Parker haters at bay.
BTW, Ginobili looked gassed, not suprising, only 1 day off and it was a travel day.
He will come out BETTER in game 4, even better in game 5, elimination game.
The good news is that they are ripe for an ass chewing and should come back ready to play in Game 4. They just need one game in Detroit. They've got two more shots. I like their chances.
It goes to show that the Spurs cannot go on a decent winning streak without stinking up the place now and then. I have never seen Ginobili have a bad game befire so I think that bruised thigh affected his game. parker and barry played decent. Mohammed pissed the shit out of me with his bumbling of Manu's passes. I am pretty sure that the Spurs know that they stunk and will come back with a vengeance.
During the Seattle series I recall a few people calling the Spurs pussies and "giving up." Go back to my post and notice the " " around giving up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodels
Kori - Please save this thread in the classics. When the lockout lasts into January and you people are pining for hoops, remember your discontent over an extra game.
Duncan stopped going inside because he was being pushed on the the release of the shot. I'll bet it was 5-5 jumpers and all the misses on the no calls in the paint.
It was a little more than "just one game". It was a game that virtually guaranteed us a title had we won it. Surely this is obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistons > Spurs
The Pistons played well but they weren't the main reason we lost imo. We had the lead in a very important first quarter and had set the tone. Then we just decided that we would play very conservative until the half which I think cost us.
The Pistons didn't really start to play well until virtually the end of the third when they went on a run. They just wanted it more. Our usual energizer Manu just wasn't the same at all after that collision and Tim didn't show up for whatever reason. That's the ball game right there. Very unusual for Tim, not to mention frustrating for us fans.
Some of you need to understand the difference between being critical and upset with the manner and the fact on quitting on your team.
What's wrong with it is that that approach has failed too many times as I pointed out in the original post. He should know the team by now and know that this game is too important not to make it a point of stressing intensity in a pivotal game.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Also, when he realized that Tim was flat he should have done something, anything to turn that around. Maybe he did but you sure couldn't tell by watching that game.
Because every time Pop did it in the past, we got to witness a game like tonight.Quote:
wanna show me what is incorrect about that???
Hes right, he shouldnt have to rally the troops, he shouldnt have to scream, this team shouldve came into this game with a killer atttitude and they didnt
Look, you've probably never played competitive sports Tpark, but a team always takes on the personality of coach.
When Pop doesn't feel it's important enough to say anything before the game, the team in turn feels it's not important enough to play hard, and you get shit like tonight.
C'mon, it's one game.
They got outplayed tonight and it was a must-win for Detroit. I'm glad (and certainly not surprised) that they won in a way, makes it a series.
Now let's see how good our team really is in game 4. If they come out and beat Detroit on their own floor in a crucial game, then they are as good as we all hope, if not, well, it's best of 3.
Let's not leave the ship because it ain't even close to sinking yet!
Aggie you have to calm the fuck down. It is one game and you go berserk over a loss. Look everybody played bad except for like 3 people but, we hung with them untill the 7 minute mark at the 4th. People picked the Spurs to win in 5,6,7 games and what do people do when they know it's gonna go more than 4 games? They bitch! WTF people here are totally contradicting themselves.
P.S
Where is the fire Pop and FT thread at?
Again, I wouldn't have had a problem with them losing if Detroit beat them.
But they just didn't bother to show up, from coach right on down the bench (Tony and Brent excepted).
That's pathetic.
doesnt help that Joey Crawford set the tone early that the Spurs were not going to get the calls and Manu turned it over so many times. But at least the Spurs were not whining after every fucking call like the pistons in games 1 and 2.
Spurs will come out with more focus in game 4
Try Duncan and Manu jack they were the ones that didnt show up. At least try not to be such a homerQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
BTW, here is what I was talkin about when I said some people "gave up" on the Spurs.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15806
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17162
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17230 (Note, this thread was edited. The original Title was "time to give up the series just like last year.")
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14349
Tim and Manu wont dissapear 2 games in a row.
Spurs in 5
The pistons did some smart thing imo to get advantage on the some spurs having a bad night. They ie ran pnr between billups and prince to have billups guarded by manu (who raped him) and prince guarded by TP (who would have been raped w/o nazr help defense down the line).
Look, everyone knew the Spurs weren't going to get the calls tonight.
Even more reason to come out focused and determined. Instead we played soft/scared/Charmin'/insert soft adjective/noun here.
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
What, no love for Bruce? 4-6 three-pointers not good enough for you Aggie?
I guess that's Pop's fault, too. :rolleyes
Pop is right. He shouldn't have to explain to Tim how important it is to win Game 3, especially after the Lakers last year. Looking at Larry Brown, he didn't seem very confident in his team, either.
I guess these coaches just suck. Is it too late to get Phil Jackson? :sarcasm
Actually GoSpurs, I think Aggie is including Tim and Manu and the rest of the Spurs Org except Brent and Tony.
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Originally Posted by Pistons > Spurs
You just haven't been here that long.
If manu is healthy he will come back with a strong game, he looked like 40 years old today.
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
It must suck being you, you can't wait to just bitch. I wouldn't call it having no cahones. You can't win them all, chief. Just point the obvious. Detroit came fired up and the Spurs couldn't respond.
Thats what I was trying to say! You just did a much better job. :lol Sometimes one can say more in less. Word!Quote:
Originally Posted by Experiment2100
Spurs played like crap all game long. Yet we were only down 5 going to the 4th. Tim and Manu combine for 21. When ever your 2 best players score that amount of points youre usually going to lose. We played about as bad as we could all game yet were still in it with 8-9 min left. Tim played like crap, Manu played like crap, and we turned the ball over way too much. All three thing wont happen the same time again. No worries. Spurs in 5
Bruce Bowen.Quote:
Thanks to Tony Parker and Brent Barry for showing up, too bad your teammates didn't catch the same bus.
Bruce 12 points and had Rip get 24 on 23 shots.
Agreed.
Had the bigs and everyone else rebounded, that wouldve been nice.
bruce wanted to make a run at the end, but the team fell apart defensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
BTW
Hey Tim DUncan
Ben fuckin Wallace had 15. You had 14
Duncan, your a fuckin joke.
Letting that stiff have that many, and you only "managing" 14 is a complete and utter fucking joke.
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Duncan, your a fuckin joke.
Why are you guys all so fairweather?! The Spurs had a bad night and now they are a fuckin joke?
Im sorry.
Duncan, you were fabulous, keep shooting 25 foot jumpers.
How is that fairweather, Im stating a fact about Duncan period.
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Originally Posted by T Park
And you're an asshole.
Jesus, can Spurs fans understand these people are human, not Gods for you to worship?
If you think you can do better T-Park, get off your fat ass and play ball.
Sorry I'm so rude, but calling Tim a "joke" has to be the stupidest thing a Spurs fan can say, other than calling for Pop to be fired.
One thing about Tim, he always bounces back from a bad game.
Man, its not like Tim and Manu went off. They both had arguably their worst games in these playoffs at the same time.
Both must be pissed that they let the team down and both should bounce back just fine.
When ur 2 best players combine for 21 points ur going to lose. Doesnt matter if its against detroit or the clips.
Next game:
Tim 30+ Manu 25+
Spurs in 5
Duncan is a fuckin joke? Or he played poorly? There's a difference.Quote:
How is that fairweather, Im stating a fact about Duncan period.
Reminds me of peoples reactions after game 4 vs. PHX. Timmy will be back. One bad game doesnt make someone a joke. :lol :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by T Park
How is Duncan a fucking joke?
By using your logic then I guess everybody is a fucking joke on the Spurs except for Bruce, Tony and Brent.
Good God, it's one game and the Spurs lose the finals....REMEBER this isn't single elimanation.
Here's the obvious thing that you are obviously missing:Quote:
It must suck being you, you can't wait to just bitch. I wouldn't call it having no cahones. You can't win them all, chief. Just point the obvious.
I love my Spurs and I hate watching them lose. I have no problem when we just get beat. I do have a problem when we don't bother to show up.
we didn't show up tonight, and that's weak.
Anyone who says Duncan is a fuckin joke is a fuckin joke.
Lets see how much of a joke he is after game 4
Tonight, he was a fucking joke. Letting Ben Wallace outscore you, and letting him push you around and settling for "jump shots" is a fucking joke.
Maddog, fuck off, dont like it, go away .
C'mon guys!? Sheesh, no balls??? What about the balls they showed in games 1 and 2, both times stopping runs at crucial times and closing out the 4th.
We were hurt, down on energy and out of sorts today. That doesn't mean we will be on Thurs, and it doesn't mean we have no balls.
Hell, we were playing horribly but were still in the game until the 4th, and then they outplayed us when they absolutely had to. I don't see us playing that badly again.
Didnt SA lose game 3 in the 99 finals as well? That worked out pretty well I think. How'd we do in that series?
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Wrong. Manu and Tim had off nights. With your lead scorers having off nights, chances are, you will lose.
The rest of the Spurs, (Horry, Bruce, Tony, Brent, etc.) did fine under the curcumstances.
it all starts with duncan. his softness obviously rubs off on the team.
Maybe I don't feel as bad as some of you at this lost. We were right there for most of the night into the fourth quarter. A turnover here and a turnover there and the pistons blew the game open. Next game the Spurs need to limit the turnovers and do a better job on the defensive boards. We take of two things we'll do a lot better!!
There are hella tweakers on this board.
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Originally Posted by T Park
Uh, no and no.
You're in the wrong here and need to be told so.
If you think Duncan is a joke, root for another team and stop wasting your time on "losers" like the Spurs. :rolleyes
T Park, Jesus, calm down.
Aggie, how did we not show up tonight? We held on for all we were worth for 3 quarters while they got away with dirty fouls and nothing went right for us. In the 4th, everything went their way and we got outplayed. I don't think that means we didn't turn up. We had a bad game, it happens to every team. We will bounce back. That is the measure of a true champion.
Maddog, thanks for talking sense.
We all hate it when they lose, but now just because of that Duncan is soft, Manu and Tony should be traded and they should move the franchise to Maine??? Walk away from the computer, smoke a J and calm down. :hat
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Originally Posted by firepopovich
Who the fuck is this dumbshit?
If you think Duncan is soft and Pop needs to be fired, then you're not a Spurs fan. Period.
Agreed.
It always happens when we play a bad game though, Spurs fans go insane and forget the two games we just won. Maybe it is memories of 2000-2 and 2004, but still it's a pain in the arse.
Duncan was soft tonight and I am spurs fan. Didn't you see him taking jumpshots almost from the 3 point line?Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDog73
What I saw tonight gives me confidence, as weird as that sounds. SA played like CRAP yet had a chance in the 4th. If they play a lil better, they are in it in the end. I like the Spurs chances in game 4, IF they show up and play like they did in games 1 & 2.
Seriously, some of you need to stop watching sports. The pistons came out the aggressor and won because of it. Yes there were mental lapses on the spurs part and yes the pistons were playing borderline dirty, but so what? The pistons played like the game meant more to them than the spurs. Get over it and focus on game 4.
Absofrigginlutely weebo and Dre. Agree with you both.
I agree. We played like crap all game, even when it was close. Yet we were only down 5 going into the 4th.Quote:
What I saw tonight gives me confidence, as weird as that sounds
Tim 14 points
Manu 7 points
TOs,TOs,TOs
All these wont happen again in the same game.
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Originally Posted by dn0
There's a difference between saying "Duncan played soft tonight" or "Duncan's game was a joke tonight" than saying Duncan is soft, Duncan is a joke.
One infers a temporary state, the other a permanent one.
Understand?
damn this board is worthless after a loss
Duncan a joke? Duncan is soft?
What a bunch of fucking idiots around here tonight
And the same people that bitch are out yet again. Suprise, suprise.
You're damned right, Pistons fan!!! This is pathetic! I'm as disappointed as any Spurs' fan, here, but I'm not going to call Duncan and Ginobilli "dickwads", "cowards", "pussies!" On Sunday night they were supermen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistons > Spurs
Maybe a few of you so-called Spurs' fans need a few more years under your belts. This type of sophomoric outburst is un-called for and positively disgusting.
You might take a page from the Pistons' fans' book: After losing the first two games by healthy margins (15 and 21), they kept right on posting about their faith in their team and didn't fail to cheer them on tonight - even when Detroit didn't look all that great in the beginning quarters.
Stop this whining and complaining.
It takes a team to raise a trophy! :smokin
The Chicken Little process begins. :rolleyes
It's a permanent state when they play him physical.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDog73
its always a wonder seeing everyone jump ship ALL THE FUCKING TIME the spurs lose a game.
spurs had a bad game. so what? so does detroit on the first 2 games. and THEYRE the defending champs.
come on were still up 2-1.
we will at least get 1 GAME on detroits floor.
and that will set the tone for us.
Riiiiiiiight, just ask Seattle. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dn0
People need to CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!! Man oh man!!
thats the way this board is...a bunch of chicken littles who cry every time the Spurs lose
detroit is a good team and unless all the Spurs give 110% for every possession there is a chance the Spurs will lose. what happened to our two all stars they seemed to dissappear tonight. hopefully they will come back possessed on Thursday.
was it just me or did the detroit crowd sounded worried during most of the game?
"we will at least get 1 GAME on detroits floor."
It better be game4, since if we lose Game4 to even the series 2-2, the Pistons will be hell-bent to get Game5, to sweep @DET and go up 3-2.
I dont think anyone has ever swept a playoffs. If so, it is the exception, not the rule. Some people on this board overreacted to one or two games. Its about winning 4 out of 7. Thats all that matters!!
i cant FUCKING believe that were taking on encouragement words from a PISTONS fan. The SPURS fan should be the one picking themselves up. not throwing themselves in the hole.Quote:
I can't believe all the hate for your own team. You lost..so what..It's one game. And to say it's simply because you played poorly, and to give no credit to our D is pretty poor aswell. (that comment obviously does not go to all Spur fans...) Love your team win or lose.......
this is like just what mouse posted in the suns series.
love your team!
It's nights like this I don't envy Kori.
No wonder she just goes to bed and cleans all this crap up in the morning.
Speaking of, good night to all the true fans out there that still believe.
To the rest of you pussies, I hope you guys don't expect to come back after we win the finals and pretend like you never doubted this team for a minute.
:flipoff
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Originally Posted by MadDog73
Amen
go spurmies
And if you had a brain, you'd comprehend that some of us are pissed for the Spurs not coming out with the same aggression, knowing full well it was coming from Detroit.Quote:
Seriously, some of you need to stop watching sports. The pistons came out the aggressor and won because of it.
That was my original point, this team doesn't have the balls to go for another team's throat when they've got them down.Quote:
The pistons played like the game meant more to them than the spurs.
Just "ho hum, we're up 2-0, no big deal." Fuck that, you go for the throat.
Why do people that hate the Spurs come in here, get a anti-spurs name, talk a bunch of junk about why "the Spurs suck" (or wateva) yet forget to change their favorite team to someone other then the Spurs? :lmao :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by duncan is boring
Its hillarious!
This is bullshit. Ben Wallace played an amazing game and let it be known that Detroit was not the team the first two games showed them to be.
If you didn't expect the Spurs to lose tonight you're a fucking moron. We had just destroyed them twice in a row, there backs were against the wall on the verge of elimination, Detroit was going home with a rabid crowd following, of course they were going to play inspired basketball. Detroit believe it or not is a very good team, remember that championship they won. Spurs in 6
Go fuck yourselves
http://www.americasalsa.com/images/g...orge_lopez.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by MadDog73
Tell em eh, tell em!