Piston Fan Ragging on Sean Elliott

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Originally Posted by FearDaFro

Its no less loony to tell us we should like Sean Elliott.

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Oh sh!t congrats. You finally decided to respond to one of my posts. Kind of like you decided to post again after the Pistons won a game.

I'm not saying you should like him. No one cares if you like him or not. But to try to say he wasn't trying is stupid. He was on medicine for a failing kidney, the point guard hated him, he went from the second option to one of the last options, the team was trying to get its two lottery picks playing time and the team still thought it was championship caliber ... that all combined for him having a sub par season. It wasn't like he went up there and they were a good team with a solid pass with a point guard who would pass to him and he just didn't try.

If you watched the team then you would know this.

the big cat has never seen timvp go off like this.

piston fan is nice and crispy right about now.

This is classic...What happened to Elliott is the same thing that happens to players that come to the Spurs...that have too much expectation on them...

Hedo was a beloved player in Sacremento...he came here and he's public enemy #1 with no balls and who carries purse.

Brent Barry went from being a pillar of the community and team in Seattle to being the most hated Spur possibly ever.

The same thing happened to Elliott...they didn't trade us Dennis Rodman because they expected Elliott to be the 5th option on their team...He was coming off an All Star Season if I remember...was wide regarded as one of the best upncoming defenders in the NBA...and he was supposed energize their aging team and be part of their future.


They wanted Elliott to do well...he just wasn't cut out to handle it in Detroit...it's not the same laid back family atmosphere that's in SA...they were hungry for more titles.

It's not just that the Pistons fans hate Elliott...Elliott has zero love for Detroit as well. He doesn't consider himself as having ever been a Piston.

Elliott wasn't as beloved in SA then as he is now either...there wasn't a lot of complaining about trading him for Rodman. It wasn't like when we traded Malik.

It's silly to expect the Detroit fans to feel the same way about Elliott that Spurs fans do..he didn't want to be there...he didn't hit the MDM for them(the turning point of his career in SA as well)...and he didn't become champion of the human spirit for them by becoming the first player to play after a kidney transplant...

Elliott didn't like the Pistons or their fans and they know it. I really don't blame them for feeling the same way.

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927

So lack of getting to the rim and getting fouled is the point guard's fault?

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are you even reading what i said? i think there were alot of issues involved as to why his numbers went down. i dont think a medical condition that you're just learning about and trying to control helps... neither does a point who doesnt want you around.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Can't spell his name right. Intelligent, all right.

Don't blame me because your scrub team didn't try to rebuild quick enough. The boy kisser plus the expanded waist lines of Dumars and Laimbeer thought that Pistons team was championship caliber. They didn't want Elliott on the team. They wanted Rodman.

It was well documented. Even Isiah Thomas admitted it after the fact.

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Boy, you're a unhappy little critter aren't you?

Amazing that the fat waistline of Dumars managed to drop 20 a game that year and that Terry Mills managed 17. You guys can continue to blame anything and everything on everybody but Elliott. Sure, he didn't get along with Isiah, but why does that mean he can't take it strong to the hole or play tough defense? It doesn't. Blame it all on the kidney's if you want. But the fact that one year before and one year after he was perfectly fine and played hard taints his performance here in Detroit.

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It's silly to expect the Detroit fans to feel the same way about Elliott that Spurs fans do..he didn't want to be there...he didn't hit the MDM for them(the turning point of his career in SA as well)...and he didn't become champion of the human spirit for them by becoming the first player to play after a kidney transplant...

Elliott didn't like the Pistons or their fans and they know it. I really don't blame them for feeling the same way.

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That's all I've been trying to say.

And what does MDM mean?

Memorial Day Miracle.

i dont think anyone wants/needs piston fans to respect or like elliott... man have your own opinion. whatever, you know...

but this thread started because taco said he heard a fan go off about elliott without mentioning this stuff... the stuff that you should know if you're a fan.

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Dumars managed to drop 20 a game that year and that Terry Mills managed 17

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that plus Isaih Thomas, you wanna tell me how Sean Elliott was supposed to get any shots???

Nahhhh.

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Originally Posted by FearDaFro

His kidney was acting up, though it was one of those magic kidnsey diseases that suddenly went away for 3 years after forcing him for play like crap.

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:lol

You are really showing your true colors now. When he was going through the testing to figure out what was wrong, they put him on all types of steroids and medication to bring his kidney numbers back in line. They didn't know what was wrong at first. That is why if you see a picture of him on the Pistons, his face was all puffy from the steroids.

Eventually, they finally figured out what was wrong and they took him off the steroids and got the medication in check. That didn't happen overnight. It just so happened that he was on the Pistons when they were trying to figure out what was wrong with him.

Once they figured out his condition, they structured a medicine regiment that allowed him to play. He still had to check his kidney numbers weekly and adjust his medicine accordingly, but the medicine he was one was a much lesser dossage than he was on when he was with the Pistons. Plus they took him off of all steroids that they put him on when they had no clue what was wrong.

Oh and to show the class of the city of Detroit, the local media came out with a story that Sean Elliott had AIDS and that was why he was getting tested and treated so much. Very classy there.

I guess that's where you guys get your charm.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Memorial Day Miracle.

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Oh. Gotcha.

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Originally Posted by timvp

:lol

You are really showing your true colors now. When he was going through the testing to figure out what was wrong, they put him on all types of steroids and medication to bring his kidney numbers back in line. They didn't know what was wrong at first. That is why if you see a picture of him on the Pistons, his face was all puffy from the steroids.

Eventually, they finally figured out what was wrong and they took him off the steroids and got the medication in check. That didn't happen overnight. It just so happened that he was on the Pistons when they were trying to figure out what was wrong with him.

Once they figured out his condition, they structured a medicine regiment that allowed him to play. He still had to check his kidney numbers weekly and adjust his medicine accordingly, but the medicine he was one was a much lesser dossage than he was on when he was with the Pistons. Plus they took him off of all steroids that they put him on when they had no clue what was wrong.

Oh and to show the class of the city of Detroit, the local media came out with a story that Sean Elliott had AIDS and that was why he was getting tested and treated so much. Very classy there.

I guess that's where you guys get your charm.

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As I said, we all understand......the one year between 1992 and 1998 that he plays in detroit, his kidney knocks his effort and his scoring in half. Every other year, his kidney simply wasn't bothering him, or he just had better medication. Its all just a big coincidence that his one afflicted year was in Detroit. Gotcha.

Ouch. timvp knows more about Piston history than Piston Fan.

Look, I can give a rats ass if you hate him or like him. My thing is, saying it's completely his fault and he was sandbagging is stupid. He did give up, he admitted so. But having the whole team dislike you (espesically Isah, even HE admits it) and not getting you involved with the team plays a HUGE part in it, as being sick.

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Every other yea, his kidney simply wasn't bothering him, or he just had better medication.

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The year with the Pistons was the first year he started medication - that's well documented.

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his scoring in half.

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Math.

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Originally Posted by FearDaFro

As I said, we all understand......the one year between 1992 and 1998 that he plays in detroit, his kidney knocks his effort and his scoring in half. Every other yea, his kidney simply wasn't bothering him, or he just had better medication. Its all just a big coincidence that his one afflicted year was in Detroit. Gotcha.

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You do know that was the year he was diagnosed with his condition right? Yeah, it was his fault that his play suffered around the time that doctors told him he had failing kidneys and how he'd eventually need a transplant. Gotcha.

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Originally Posted by FearDaFro

As I said, we all understand......the one year between 1992 and 1998 that he plays in detroit, his kidney knocks his effort and his scoring in half. Every other yea, his kidney simply wasn't bothering him, or he just had better medication. Its all just a big coincidence that his one afflicted year was in Detroit. Gotcha.

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Actually, not getting the same touches he was getting in SA might have something to do with that. Not exactly hard to grasp.

And yes, Elliott was that sick back then.

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Originally Posted by SPARKY

Ouch. timvp knows more about Piston history than Piston Fan.

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Well considering we are dealing with fans who pulled a Whottt and stopped posting after going down 0-2, it shouldn't be a surprise.

:hat

Laker Fan > Piston fan.


Great job Detroit, be proud of that.


What fuckwads.

also... if sean had it in him to "dog it" in detroit... than he certainly would have had an even better reason to "dog it" in 99 with the spurs. (and after that too) when he became the first player with a kidney transplant to play pro basketball.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Laker Fan > Piston fan.


Great job Detroit, be proud of that.


What fuckwads.

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......you DO realize that you troll more than any spurs fan here.......right?

At leats the 2 years I've been around, you seem incapable of discussing anything without insulting people.

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Originally Posted by FearDaFro

......you DO realize that you troll more than any spurs fan here.......right?

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:lol

He skips all the posts were he's called out for being wrong.

Classic.

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Originally Posted by FearDaFro

......you DO realize that you troll more than any spurs fan here.......right?

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a spurs fan cant troll on a spurs board... you DO realize that, right?

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you DO realize that you troll more than any spurs fan here.......right?

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where were you after games 1 and 2???


Thats right.

Who is the troll now.

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Originally Posted by T Park

where were you after games 1 and 2???


Thats right.

Who is the troll now.

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......and if this discussion has started saturday, I'd be here then, too.

On the all-time list of hated ex-pistons, Sean Elliott is right behind Bob Macadoo at the top.