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Re: Biggest jump ever seen in global warming gases
lol extrapolating geographical trends from ten years worth of data
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Supposing your graph represents what you think it does, it's like saying a one day cold snap represents a reversal of trend.
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DarrinS
Really? What TREND do you see in the last ten years of data?
Look at your graph, it shows an increase in average temperature every year for the whole period shown.
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Winehole23
lol extrapolating geographical trends from ten years worth of data
He is also understanding the graph wrong. He posted proof to the contrary of his argument.
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Darrin still doesn't seem to get that, so I made it simpler. Even if his interpretation were correct, his position would still be absurd.
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Winehole23
Supposing your graph represents what you think it does, it's like saying a one day cold snap represents a reversal of trend.
Really? A decade is only as significant as a single cold spell? I disagree.
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Drachen
Look at your graph, it shows an increase in average temperature every year for the whole period shown.
That's not even true for the first graph. Temps were declining for 30 years from the mid 1940s to 1970s.
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DarrinS
That's not even true for the first graph. Temps were declining for 30 years from the mid 1940s to 1970s.
:lol
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TeyshaBlue
I was unaware of a 1:1 relationship between co2 and the "effects" on our climate. Does it really stand to reason that 2x output = 2x results?
Serious question tbh.
Each electron has a probability to absorb a photon. The structure of an atom effects that probability. If you have more then it makes sense that they would additive, the problem is they cannot quantify what the effects really are. We don't know for certain what the 'effect' is.
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ChumpDumper
:lol
:lol :lol :lol
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
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Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis had mixed support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s...
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DarrinS
:lol
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FuzzyLumpkins
Each electron has a probability to absorb a photon. The structure of an atom effects that probability. If you have more then it makes sense that they would additive, the problem is they cannot quantify what the effects really are. We don't know for certain what the 'effect' is.
Really? I thought it was all settled.
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DarrinS
I was talking about the second graph. You know, the one that purports that warming has stopped. The first graph shows a pretty solid upward trend that even you should be able to see.
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Drachen
I was talking about the second graph. You know, the one that purports that warming has stopped. The first graph shows a pretty solid upward trend that even you should be able to see.
Yes, the second graph shows no upward trend. I agree that the first one does.
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Drachen
He is also understanding the graph wrong. He posted proof to the contrary of his argument.
Apparently, you don't understand what the graph means.
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DarrinS
what was the percentage of human produced carbon in the atmosphere at the time Darrin. I will wait.
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DarrinS
Yes, the second graph shows no upward trend. I agree that the first one does.
Um, all of the data points on the second graph are above the average which indicates a rising temperature, If that is a rolling average it indicates an exponentially rising temperature.
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Drachen
what was the percentage of human produced carbon in the atmosphere at the time Darrin. I will wait.
Google Keeling curve. Happy reading.
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DarrinS
That's not even true for the first graph. Temps were declining for 30 years from the mid 1940s to 1970s.
No some months were hotter and some months were colder during that time period. You are pretty dumb. Its like a graph of velocity compared to a plot of displacement. If I speed up and slow down over an interval, i could end up anywhere along the displacement curve. You need more specific analysis.
What you can trend specifically is if ALL of the velocity plots are positive then you can say with certainty that the position vector will be positive.
You took physics right? Its very basic shit. No wonder you needed to learn JAVA.
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Drachen
Um, all of the data points on the second graph are above the average which indicates a rising temperature, If that is a rolling average it indicates an exponentially rising temperature.
:lmao
Will you believe you're wrong if RG and Manny correct you?
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FuzzyLumpkins
No some months were hotter and some months were colder during that time period. You are pretty dumb. Its like a graph of velocity compared to a plot of displacement. If I speed up and slow down over an interval, i could end up anywhere along the displacement curve. You need more specific analysis.
What you can trend specifically is if ALL of the velocity plots are positive then you can say with certainty that the position vector will be positive.
You took physics right? Its very basic shit. No wonder you needed to learn JAVA.
:lmao
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ChumpDumper
Let's see if he understands this time.
Not you too? All temps are relative to 1950-1980 average (which is pretty arbitrary). It just establishes a baseline. Yes, 2001-2011 are hotter than this baseline, but the are not increasing.
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DarrinS
:lmao
Will you believe you're wrong if RG and Manny correct you?
Neither of them need to correct me. I turned my head sideways and read the vertical words on the left. I will say that while temperatures are clearly above average, this graph shows that over the last ten years, they have indeed leveled off. (i.e., this is not a rolling average.)