Bruce Bowen is an Overrated dirty player

I dont care what any spurs fan says because your all just going to be bias and I respected bowen for a while and thought he was a great defender but after watching the little things he does to players he truly is a dirty player. Hes like one of those old men you play with at the YMCA that'll play dirty but nothing is called
and in the playoffs he guarded carmelo, ray allen, marion, and now rip and the only person he SHUT DOWN was marion... carmelo averageed 20 in the regular season and against bowen he averaged 19... allen averaged 23 and vs bowen he averaged 21... rip averaged 18 and now he averages 17
im not saying bowen is a crappy defender at all but he is OVERRATED... and YES HE IS DIRTY... SO many damn people have brought up bowen being dirty and im sorry but when many people keep on bringing it up then its clearly obvious... he does bump trip push and i understand u can be aggressive and phsyical but theres a point and he crosses that point

you guys call vince carter a sissy but you know it was so dirty... and last game bowen CLEARLY ran at rip and pushed him in the 4th quarter and they called a foul ON RIP!

Seattle's Ray Allen (to ESPN.com): "He pulls you; he grabs you; he hits your elbow every time you shoot; when you go to the basket he pushes you, and then he falls. Stuff like that is not really basketball."

Former Dallas coach Don Nelson (to Dallas reporters): "He's a dirty player."

... when coahces and the players hes guarding always bring it up im sure they have a point but spurs fans claim "WHAT SISSIES THEY CANT HANDLE IT STOP THE WHINING BLAH BLAH" in order to sound cool or to make bowen look like a tough guy... plain n simple hes a dirty player and u all know it on the inside

Sorry about that :(.

This is the only guy on San Antonio I dislike because of being dirty.

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I dont care what any spurs fan says because your all just going to be bias

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ahh...another ignorant blanket statment user. That makes three of you. :rolleyes

:sleep

Yep, Rasheed and Ben never commit fouls that aren't called.

Of course, they're not dirty, and neither is Bruce.

those "little things" he does are making him a millionare and recognized all-nba defensive player. By the end of this series Rip is gonna transform into a Ray Allen, a whinny little bitch :lol

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because your all just going to be bias

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Is "being bias" similar to being jealousy, or being stupidity?

When is the last time you've seen the Wallaces undercut somebody or get a foot underneath them which injured Ray Allen and Vince Carter. Bowen is dirty.

he's right. you are just blinded by your ignorance.

...yet all of those who bitch would take Bowen on their team in a heartbeat

I mean the post has its troll parts, but at least he backed it up with the stats.

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When is the last time you've seen the Wallaces undercut somebody

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hmm, when Duncan injured his ankle in Detroit?? :rolleyes

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he's right. you are just blinded by your ignorance.

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and you are by your bias.

I give up trying to figure out who this poster is...I know tlong dislikes Bowen, but he is much more witty...And quite frankly nobody else spells this bad on purpose...And I can never tell if there is a point to the story... :lol

a. if you don't care about what Spurs fans say, then why the fuck are you posting your thoughts on a Spurs fans website? Idiot.

b. if "many people bringing it up" make it "plainly obvious":

What do "many people" say about Rasheed Wallace?

and, more importantly:

What do "many people" say about Pistons fans?

If that many people are saying it, it must be true...

ok, bruce is dirty, and he owns rip. i'll take it. :smokin

We are posting because it amusing getting you all so riled up over little things.

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Originally Posted by Chris4

We are posting because it amusing getting you all so riled up over little things.

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Well if that amuses you, let me tell you are a loser who seeks satisfaction on an internet forum :lol

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We are posting because it amusing

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if thats amusing??

yaawwwnnnn.

Lives, get em immediately.

Kobe to my knowledge hasn't complained about Bruce's D....and he's probably went at Bruce the most in the playoffs the last 5 years. Is Bruce cheap...yes....dirty...no...cheap ass Veteran BS he gets away with....yes....dirty, causing injury....no.

Dumbass, isn't that what everyone is here for?? To satisfy their beliefs, opinions, or ideas.

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Originally Posted by Medvedenko

Kobe to my knowledge hasn't complained about Bruce's D....and he's probably went at Bruce the most in the playoffs the last 5 years. Is Bruce cheap...yes....dirty...no...cheap ass Veteran BS he gets away with....yes....dirty, causing injury....no.

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Thanks for giving us Kobe's opinion on the matter, which is so valuable. Are you Kobe's agent BTW?

Bruce is deffinatly not a dirty player.

Speaking of dirty...Rasheed Wallace is the dirtiest guy in the league, from his ugly beard, to his ugly, spaced, yellow teeth.

You didn't add that those scoring scrubs got those points at around 1 point per shot.
If Carmelo got 19 points, I can almost guaransheed that it was on 19 shots. NOT VERY EFFECTIVE.

5 straight All-NBA D teams. 2 years runner-up to DPOY...Yeah the guy can't play any D at all.

It's funny that your perceived best player has a name that is used in the FEMININE TERM. If she'd give a better effort, than maybe you guys can extend the series.

Or something like that.

I've proved my point.

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Originally Posted by Chris4

I've proved my point.

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That you're a dumbass?? yes, sir u have. :)

Hahaha, this is great. Keep responding, please.

Chris, you're looking like a retard.

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Originally Posted by WayDowntownBang

Chris, you're looking like a retard.

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The truth has been told.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

When is the last time you've seen the Wallaces undercut somebody or get a foot underneath them which injured Ray Allen and Vince Carter. Bowen is dirty.

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That's a lie. Bowen did not injure Ray Ray. In fact, this year Ray claimed the same thing (after game 1), but forgot that people had gadgets such as TiVo to prove his outright attempt to make Bruce look like a villain. Conclusion: Ray's credibililty is shot.

Vince claimed this year to have had his season ended by Bruce when Vince was playing for Toronto. Truth: Vince played 20 games after missing only six games due to the injury... he simply tried to detract people from uncovering the real nature of his injury -- a lack of heart. Conclusion: Vince's credibility is shot.

Finley got on the bandwaggon simply because he figured that after going 1 for 9 in a half against Bruce that some calls would go his way if he cried to the ref that "Bruce was playing dirty" Don Nelson pulled out the phrase so that refs would blow their whistles. And everthing has snowballed since then.

Reggie Miller played RIP the exact same way... but Rip isn't going to rip a hero of the game.... NO. He instead decided to be un-original and hop onto the sissy bandwaggon driven by Carter and co-piloted by Ray for the sake of getting more calls.

If you ask me, Billups deserved a flagrant foul for that block of his Parker. You would think he would know that his elbow was in fact an extension of his arm. Parker clearly could have said... "Chauncey is dirty... didn't he bust up somebody's wrist this season?"

Again... look at the pattern of frustration here by opposing players.

BTW most of the points that the players assigned to Bruce score are obtained when somebody else is on them.

WayDowntown is looking more and more like a genius.

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Originally Posted by Chris4

I've proved my point.

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bruce is proving his point too.....

anyone know how many technical fouls our Bruce Bowen has in these finals?

surely a dirty player would have some techs by now....and surely an overrated

player like bruce couldn't hold down a dynamo like R.I.P. could he?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...P_hamilton.jpg

Pistons are being heavily complimented for being more physical with the Spurs, Pistons assistant Gar Heard and Big Ben are saying Spurs guards will have somebody waiting for them if they continue to drive while Chauncey is cold-cocking Parker yet ---- Bowen is dirty for "putting his foot under Hamilton".

Bruces D is about forcing guys into taking bad shots and throwing off their rythm, To do this he uses constant contact and his hands are always moving. He may not have completely shut down everyone he has faced thus far in the playoffs but I guarantee their shooting %'s plummeted.

He isnt dirty. He isnt even cheap. He is physical and old school.

If you want to start brining up the 5 people who have complained about Bruce how about the 100 who havent. Next time you want to talk about how dirty a player, try using an example that doesnt include a player who admitted to sand bagging.

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Originally Posted by GuaranSHEED36

Seattle's Ray Allen (to ESPN.com): "He pulls you; he grabs you; he hits your elbow every time you shoot; when you go to the basket he pushes you, and then he falls. Stuff like that is not really basketball."

Former Dallas coach Don Nelson (to Dallas reporters): "He's a dirty player."

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Yeah. Uh huh. Those are two really reliable sources. Nelly would do any damned thing, the dirtier the better. And Ray Allen? That whiny little ass? You can't be serious.

What total nonsense. :spin

You have just put yourself on my list of "disregards".

Fortson, IMO is the dirtiest in the league

Oh, I'm not Kobe's agent...I'm just proving that another Elite 2 guard doesn't complain when Bruce puts the D down....Play your game and everything will work out.
Keep attacking Bowen and he'll eventually get into foul trouble, don't back down or look to refs to bail you out...it will take time, but he'll get called eventually.

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Originally Posted by Bandit2981

Fortson, IMO is the dirtiest in the league

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Bah thats all rep. He doesnt play long enough to be the dirtiest.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

When is the last time you've seen the Wallaces undercut somebody or get a foot underneath them which injured Ray Allen and Vince Carter. Bowen is dirty.

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March 20, 2005. Tim Duncan. The Palace. Geez, you guys have a short selective memory.

Didn't you Detroit fans hear what Rip even said during an interview?

He didn't say Bruce is dirty, he simply said that Bruce uses all of his energy on defense. He knows that all Bruce does is shoot threes from the corners, and he plays with 100% effort on D.

That's it. It's just a matter of trying. He tries to deny Rip the ball, and Bruce is an all out defender, and he will bug the shit out of you even if you aren't near the ball.

I don't really see anything dirty about that...not even close.

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He doesnt play long enough to be the dirtiest

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he doesnt play long because his only job is to be a thug out there and rough people up...he took Gino down by his head, remember?

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Originally Posted by Bandit2981

Fortson, IMO is the dirtiest in the league

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No doubt about it.

Fortson does not play basketball.

As Coach Chaney would say it, he's nothing more than a goon.

Undeniable proof Bruce is dirty

Who the hell does that?

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Originally Posted by Chris4

Undeniable proof Bruce is dirty

Who the hell does that?

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I thought you already proved you point :lmao

Learn how to read, genius.

He was obviously trying to kick the ball. Have you ever tried altering the direction of your foot in mid air?

Besides... It's fucking Wally Szczerbiak. Bruce should be applauded for kicking him. :lol

LOL. Well he's playing the wrong sport then.

Nah, people kick passes all the time... So he tried to kick the shot. Would have been a great play.

At least our fans don't throw beer cups, pop corn, and chairs......now that's pretty dirty.

wally clearly moved his head into bruce's kicking path.... :lol

I think just about every play from every team cheats. Including Pistons for those that are looking through their rose colored glasses. My personal opinion is the calls always go favorably to the home team. I believe this will go seven games and the Spurs win! :fro

the only dirty play I've seen in this series is when detroit bigs push the Spurs defenders into the detroit smalls to get calls

detroit better hope none of their players get hurt with this dirty tactic

If he's overrated, then why is Rip shooting sub 35% against on the season?

And if he's so dirty, then why does he only average 2-3 fouls a game?

Bowen kicked Wally, la dee da. Why don't you go to a Suns fan board and post a clip of Stephen Hunter booting Tim in the crotch and call him the dirtiest player in the game? One damn time and it was clearly an accident. Anyways, I think you're just pissy because Bruce knows how to get away with the same stuff that ALL the Pistons were doing last year that prompted the NBA to change it's rules. For the record, I thought that rule change was BS anyways.

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Originally Posted by GuaranSHEED36

I dont care what any spurs fan says....blah blah

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I dont care what any pistons fan says

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Originally Posted by GuaranSHEED36

I dont care what any spurs fan says

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why the fuck are u here then? MORON!

:lmao

Thanks for posting that clip. I had forgotten about that. One of my all-time favorite clips.

That's just good defense. You know Wally thought about it the next time he took that three...

Yeah but its Wally....if anyone deserves a kick in the face...its him. :lol

The part of being a great defensive player is to be slightly dirty. The idea of putting fear into the opponents makes them less likely to feel that they aren't having a shootout. So you could say that both teams have some dirty players that are willing to put you on the ground to prevent you from easy baskets. Bowen might take it a little to far sometimes but it's about winning and Bowen knows it.

that clip was great.

You can call bruce whatever you want. He is a good defender because he gets results.

that is like finding out a rich guy with ten million dollars got it by robbing the bank. He may have used some questionable tactics, but he still has the ten million dollars, and therefore is rich.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

When is the last time you've seen the Wallaces undercut somebody or get a foot underneath them which injured Ray Allen and Vince Carter. Bowen is dirty.

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Vince carter kicks his feet out and ray allen tripped over his own feet.
The funny thing is he made both of them play for the foul. They constantly tried to jump into Bowen at the detriment of their own shot. It was hilarious.

Ok I get the point enough quoting that about the Wallaces.

Hahahahah, it's funny that the Detroit Piston Fans try to point out why their best player is getting owned by making the excuse that his defender is dirty and that he's being ignored by the refs.


That's just plain pathetic.