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Originally Posted by MOTOWNS_FINEST
That's exactly what Im saying. We did choke, but Duncan showed his true colors last night and so did Gino, and TP. Robert Horry cant bail you out of every game. We've been thru shots like this before. Kobe tried to snatch our hearts last year with this kinda shot but we bounced back. Larry Bird got us back in 87' with the steal of a Zeke pass so we've seen this before. And WE ALWAYS BOUNCE BACK. When game 7 comes, your big 3 will fold like my favorite chair down the stretch.....
Just because your team lost, they choked? Don't what to say about that..if that's your hangup, that's your problem. If I were a Piston fan, I'm happy with the effort not the outcome. Billups had some good looks and tough shots. Sometimes they go in, sometimes they don't. Doesn't mean he choked.
Take away Tim's, Tony's or Manu's production last night and this win would have been an overwhelming loss. Tim outrebounded the Wallace brothers alone. Tell me that ain't production. Did he miss some free throws? Sure. But without Tim or Manu, Horry wouldn't have had an open lane for a dunk or open looks for a three.
And your '87 reference? Ancient freakin' history. Has no bearing on what happens in this year or in game 6.
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I could give 2 shits about anybody giving us respect, we got respect whether anyone likes it or not. No one takes us lightly...But anyway yeah Timmy put up some nice numbers, but dude is soft as baby shit man forreal.
ooh...you speak goodly. I guess hooked on phonics didn't work for you. :)
Yeah Tim is soft which explains the all-NBA selections, the two MVP's and the two Finals MVP's.
Yeah dog, Timmy is soft forreal....foshizzle. :rolleyes
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Wow -- this had started as a nice, respectful exchange between fans willing to feel the other side's pain (from having been there and done that). Then Motown's Finest shows up, starts throwing bombs and heats up the rhetoric.
I can't agree that the Pistons "outplayed" the Spurs last night, mostly because the context suggests that the Pistons showed very little killer instinct in Game 5. The Pistons had absolutely scuttled the Spurs in Games 3 and 4. A team with "no heart" wouldn't have bothered to show up for Game 5 -- that team would have mailed in a weak performance and hoped to get back on track at home in Game 6. Unlike that hypothetical team, the Spurs played, for the most part, with better effort and energy last night than the Pistons.
The Pistons had the Spurs at a tipping point at the end of their 13-2 run in the 1st Quarter. Pop took a timeout and it sure looked like a replay of Game 4. But then a funny thing happened. Spurs players decided to attack the Pistons defense; to play with great confidence and resolve. The Spurs put faith in their defense and were aggressive at tracking down defensive rebounds. The Spurs developed, before a national audience, a genuine belief that they could win Game 5. They were able to do that, I thought, because the Pistons confidence turned into complacency at times.
It was a team effort for the Spurs. Horry's heroics were possible because Tim Duncan was magnificent in the first 3 quarters. Bowen's late defense was meaningful because Tony Parker played a terrific first half. Manu's 9th assist was available because he had shown a renewed willingness to attack the basket in the earlier stages of the game.
I thought the Pistons played well last night, and arguably, they have only themselves to blame for the loss. But with that said, it's ridiculous to say the Pistons outplayed the Spurs.
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I go back to my analogy of two heavyweight fighters. Each time one landed a shot, the other one answered back.
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Exactly FWD. You don't lose to a team on your home floor after blowing them out in the prior two games, especially with you needing all of your home games plus one road victory to win the series.
Pistons fucking gagged last night.
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Wow -- this had started as a nice, respectful exchange between fans
Ya what happened? Last night this was a pretty decent thread. But I check it out today, and it seems to have gone to hell....arrggh.
Both teams played great. Both teams showed desire. One team got it done, and the other didn't. End of story.
Lets get ready for game 6!
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Originally Posted by MOTOWNS_FINEST
I could give 2 shits about anybody giving us respect, we got respect whether anyone likes it or not. No one takes us lightly...But anyway yeah Timmy put up some nice numbers, but dude is soft as baby shit man forreal. He can have 50 and 50 and it wouldnt matter if he cant hit a shot down the stretch and look just as dumb as Shaq does at the free throw line. Dude doesnt even bend his knees, just throws that shit up....LOL. And guess what, NO MR. ROBINSON to save his ass this time. He can keep lookin for Rob Horry if he wants to. But its gonna come down to him sooner or later and we'll see what he does....bet the end result will be that same shot of Pop rubbin his knee whisperin' sweet nothing's in his ear again. That was the lamest shit Ive seen since Zeke and Magic kissing...LMAO!!!
Again, Piston Fan needs to watch more basketball.
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[QUOTE=DDS4] Billups had some good looks and tough shots. Sometimes they go in, sometimes they don't. Doesn't mean he choked.
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Not saying Billups choked. We as a team choked (more Rahseeh than anybody). But you can run down the numerous MVP's and the all-star selections and all of that bullshit if you want but bottom-line, if you had to pick a dude to hit a shot to save your life, dude wouldnt even be mentioned in the top 100. I'll take Billups over anybody the spurs have (no disrepect to Horry but he wont do that but once a year)
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The Pistons had the Spurs at a tipping point at the end of their 13-2 run in the 1st Quarter. Pop took a timeout and it sure looked like a replay of Game 4. But then a funny thing happened. Spurs players decided to attack the Pistons defense; to play with great confidence and resolve.
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I can admit it, Pop has been taking Brown to school in the this series...
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Piston Fan would dump on TD in favor of CHAWNC-EE Billups. Go figure.
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But you can run down the numerous MVP's and the all-star selections and all of that bullshit if you want but bottom-line, if you had to pick a dude to hit a shot to save your life, dude wouldnt even be mentioned in the top 100.
Maybe not on your list. He'd be in my top ten easily, and probably the number one big man.
Have you watched the Spurs before this series, like, ever?
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Originally Posted by MOTOWNS_FINEST
YO, Im still here and I'm still confident. Anyone who watched that game last night knows the PISTONS outplayed the spurs in that game. And if your a spurs fan you gotta admit the pistons have much more heart than the spurs and if any team can win 2 in a row in your building it would be us. But I will admit it's a very tough task. But we've been here before....
Thats full of bull. It was an even matched game. Spurs led in rebounds and assists and paint points and Pistons led in blocks, turnovers, and fast break points. To say the Pistons outplayed the Spurs is ridiculous. It was probably the most evenly matched game of the playoffs. You guys have more heart? Then how come we won on the road in overtime? Do you know how difficult that is to do? Also, there is usually one thing in the playoffs that helps you win the championship. 2003-Horry missed that three and we lead the series
2004-Prince's block on Reggie Miller(the best block in
a while)
2005-Horry's GW???? I don't know teams that come up with stuff like Horry did last night has pretty good chances. But then again D-Fish's shot wasn't necessarily important in the Finals. But do you get the point at least?
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Originally Posted by MOTOWNS_FINEST
I could give 2 shits about anybody giving us respect, we got respect whether anyone likes it or not. No one takes us lightly...But anyway yeah Timmy put up some nice numbers, but dude is soft as baby shit man forreal. He can have 50 and 50 and it wouldnt matter if he cant hit a shot down the stretch and look just as dumb as Shaq does at the free throw line. Dude doesnt even bend his knees, just throws that shit up....LOL. And guess what, NO MR. ROBINSON to save his ass this time. He can keep lookin for Rob Horry if he wants to. But its gonna come down to him sooner or later and we'll see what he does....bet the end result will be that same shot of Pop rubbin his knee whisperin' sweet nothing's in his ear again. That was the lamest shit Ive seen since Zeke and Magic kissing...LMAO!!!
The last time Tim Duncan had an opportunity to close out an NBA Finals at home, he finished 2 blocks short of a quadruple double.
So take your weak shit back from where it came.
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I'm still here! Actually, I'm back, but that's because I've been on vacation since just after game 1. Watched games 2, 3 & 4 in a cabin in the Smokies (Gatlinburg, TN), got home in time to see the heartbreak of Game 5. Congrats to the Spurs, they showed up & stepped up when they needed to. The Pistons, unfortunately had a couple cases of brain crampage at the end. Besides the obvious Sheed boner, Rip also missed a wide open Tay breaking to the basket as he was forcing up a bad shot to end the game. Rip reverted to an old habit of having tunnel vision when he's driving to the basket. He should have dumped it off to Tay for a game winning dunk. If-shoulda-coulda-woulda-didn't. That's the breaks.
This is not as bad as the time Bird stole the inbounds pass from Thomas. That was probably the worst I've ever felt after a basketball game.
This one reminds me a lot of losing to NJ in triple-OT last year at the Palace. That also put the Pistons on the brink of elimination, and headed to NJ for what was effectively a game 7 type game. NJ had handled the Pistons for both NJ home games to that point. But the Pistons dominated that game 6 and returned home to close it out.
This is similar, and I can remain positive about the Pistons chances, even though they face the seemingly impossible task of winning two in a row on the Spurs court.
First of all, I believe there is a chance for a Spurs let-down in game 6. There's always game 7 to close it out, game 6 won't be viewed as "must win" for them as it will be for the Pistons, regardless of what you hear them say.
I believe the Pistons, and Sheed in particular, will bring their best game to the table for game 6. They play best when facing adversity. It doesn't get more adverse than facing elimination. So honestly, I feel pretty strongly about the Pistons taking game 6.
Once it gets to game 7, anything can happen. There will certainly be a LOT of people happy that it gets to a game 7, that's for sure.
Looking at it philosophically, if the Pistons had won last night, I think they might have had a bit of a let down and lost game 6 anyway. They always seem to find a way to make it hard on themselves. I've really felt like one way or another this thing was going 7 games either way. So in that respect I'm not feeling at all like the series is lost already.
I'm really looking forward to a heckuva game 6. I know the Pistons are gonna bring it big time. If the Spurs answer the bell like they did in game 5 we're going to be in for another barn-burner. You're not going to see the same Pistons team that didn't show up for games 1 & 2, tho, I think you can be sure of that.
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Originally Posted by HULKAROCK
Well, some Pistons fans are on here saying it's over. I guess there's ones like that everywhere. It won't be easy, that's for sure.
Yogi Berra once said "it ain't over til it's over"
We still have to play game 6.....anything can happen.....this has been a strange series....al blowoutsexcept game 5 (the way I thought the series would be)
Game 6 I expect a close game with the Pistons layiong it all out on the line and the Spurs pulling away late in the 4th.
Spurs 100
Pistons 91
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Game 5 was a "must win" for the Pistons. This is what makes me chortle at the argument that the Pistons 'play well with their backs against the wall' or whatever delusion that Piston Fan wants to cling to at the present moment. Their backs were against the wall.
What we saw last night was shrinkage of epic proportions...
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What we saw last night was shrinkage of epic proportions...
Shrinkage met Growth last night. Growth won.
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Game 5 was a "must win" for the Pistons. This is what makes me chortle at the argument that the Pistons 'play well with their backs against the wall' or whatever delusion that Piston Fan wants to cling to at the present moment. Their backs were against the wall.
What we saw last night was shrinkage of epic proportions...
They weren't facing elimination last night, their backs were not against the wall. Their confidence was at an all time high, having just beaten the Spurs in two games even worse than the Spurs beat them in games 1 & 2. The Pistons were feeling very comfortable heading into last night's game, not desperate at all. Your analysis is completely wrong.
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Actually the Spurs beat the Pistons worse in Game 2 than they lost in Game 3. Especially in light of Game 4, the Pistons' meltdown in the critical Game 5 was all the more appalling.
Detroit needed to win that game last night. They've been crap on the road thusfar in this series. Banking on winning two in a row on the road in the Finals is a bit of a stretch, even for Piston Fan.
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