Tim Duncan is Overrated

GuaranSHEED36, maybe if Malone had won a couple rings, maybe if Barkley had won a couple, maybe then people wouldn't be talking about TD being the greatest PF.

I agree that the Spurs play as a team. But that's more in the last couple years. Remember SA vs Lakers. TD was an one man army. He was absolutely mind blowing then. And SA lost. I think TD learnt his lesson then. He realized it is a team game. He allowed other players to develop.

Yeah, he does tend to disappear in 4th Q's on occasion. But consider everything else he brings to the table--superior offensive skills, awesome defense, team player, humble superstar, very coachable, solid citizen etc etc. Finally, you can never argue with success. Guy's got 2 rings, 2 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs etc etc.

I think his legacy is well-deserved.

The guy has 2 gimpy ankles. Of course he isn't 2003 Duncan, but I'll take his 26 and 19 anyday.

And soon he'll be a 3 time champion and the greatest power forward ever.

Deal with it.

ON realgm theres a fuckn thread like this posted today based on one lame game today and already it has gone to 7 pages and im gettin tired of defending spurs players and to tell you the truth i just let duncan and the spurs let their game do the talkin.

Alot of trolls just dont accept the way duncan plays his style of baskebtall and our team concept.

Tim is a very important guy, even though he was not good in game 3 and game 4. We know that Tim is a good leader and he know how to win the game. We should support and believe Tim, right? Nobody is perfect in every game.

TD rules!

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Originally Posted by GuaranSHEED36

great win by the spurs although I do think the pistons outplayed them tonight... Horry was a phenom

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No, the pistons outplayed the spurs three days ago, but the scoreboard tells us who outplayed who on father's day.

Who are the spurs gonna get to bail them out once big shot bob retires? they've already been bailed out by the last two great finasls role players. bob and kerr. they might have to resign sjax to get that back. perhaps they could sign fisher. at any rate.....
GO SPURS GO!

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Originally Posted by toosmallshoes

Who are the spurs gonna get to bail them out once big shot bob retires?

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The time will find the man.

Do I sound like Phil Jackson?!

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Originally Posted by prrao

Do I sound like Phil Jackson?!

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No, Phil would have charged $100,000 to impart such "wisdom."

He crumbled down the stretch, but of course the spurs are nowhere close without him.
After getting punked in game 3and4 he came back strong with 19 boards, 6 offensive. IN my eyes his legacy is only getting starting. Highly impressed with his come back performance. He's showing that he'll probably carry the spurs on his back in the 4th the next game.

I hope like fuckin hell that Tim accomplishes what he ALMOST did in 2003, I hope he drops a fuckin QUADRUPLE DOUBLE and cements his name amongst the greats of all time in these finals....a Legend Born!

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Originally Posted by N.Y. Johnny

I hope like fuckin hell that Tim accomplishes what he ALMOST did in 2003, I hope he drops a fuckin QUADRUPLE DOUBLE and cements his name amongst the greats of all time in these finals....a Legend Born!

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Keep taking it to the hole, be a beast on the boards, and make some big shots down the stretch is really all that's needed.

Lets just hope he doest concentrate on big stats in the next game but finish the pistons in the next game.

Ok I am going to be 100% honest here. I bashed Tim Duncan for pretty much the entire fourth quarter in Spurs chat. I knocked him for being a choker. I called him out for missing freebies.

Now that I have had time to sit back and think about the game and watch lots of film I think Tim was just down right exhausted in the fourth. He has the defensive player of the year leaning on him, pushing him and geting away with just about anything for three quarters. I think thats why he was leaving his FT's short and he short armed his put back. The guy just had nothing left in the tank.

Normaly I would call that choking. Tonight however I am taking the optimistic side. The guy left everything on the court tonight. He gave his best all game long until late in the fourth he just had nothing left to give. It was the fact that Tim carried us all night that allowed big shot Rob to be the hero. Had Tim not brought everything he had to the table tonight Rob's 3's would have meant nothing.

Tim Duncan, I apologize to you. After as much heat as you took in the last two games it would have been easy to crawl inside your shell. It would have been easy to defer to Tony, Manu and anyone else tonight. You didnt though. You sucked it up and brought your A game.

For gods sake people, 26 and 19! All anyone has done the last two games is talk about how great Ben Wallace has been and Tim Duncan DESTROYED Wallace tonight. The man is not over rated. The man has been playing basketball for over a year straight. The man deserved to be carried for one quarter.

The man WILL carry this team to its 3rd world championship on Tuesday!

Tim Duncan, you are THE MAN

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Originally Posted by texbumTHElife

Ok I am going to be 100% honest here. I bashed Tim Duncan for pretty much the entire fourth quarter in Spurs chat. I knocked him for being a choker. I called him out for missing freebies.

Now that I have had time to sit back and think about the game and watch lots of film I think Tim was just down right exhausted in the fourth. He has the defensive player of the year leaning on him, pushing him and geting away with just about anything for three quarters. I think thats why he was leaving his FT's short and he short armed his put back. The guy just had nothing left in the tank.

Normaly I would call that choking. Tonight however I am taking the optimistic side. The guy left everything on the court tonight. He gave his best all game long until late in the fourth he just had nothing left to give. It was the fact that Tim carried us all night that allowed big shot Rob to be the hero. Had Tim not brought everything he had to the table tonight Rob's 3's would have meant nothing.

Tim Duncan, I apologize to you. After as much heat as you took in the last two games it would have been easy to crawl inside your shell. It would have been easy to defer to Tony, Manu and anyone else tonight. You didnt though. You sucked it up and brought your A game.

For gods sake people, 26 and 19! All anyone has done the last two games is talk about how great Ben Wallace has been and Tim Duncan DESTROYED Wallace tonight. The man is not over rated. The man has been playing basketball for over a year straight. The man deserved to be carried for one quarter.

The man WILL carry this team to its 3rd world championship on Tuesday!

Tim Duncan, you are THE MAN

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

Duncan tonight: 26 pts, 19 rebs

Ben Wallace: 13 pts, 12 rebs
R. Wallace : 12 pts, 5 rebs

And, you stupid Detroit fans said TD is over-rated? Remember, TD was playing with 2 bad ankles. 2 Wallace(s) NOT every match 1 TD?

i think i just ended up the thread on realgm with my defense about duncan :D :D , btw im udrih14


td = mr.consistency

come on man, this guy has been playing for 3 years straight with no summers off as well as 2 recently injured ankles. i think we can cut him a little slack for being a bit tired at the end of a very very long couple of years. as far as i know, the only person on the pistons who has made that sort of commitment timewise is larry brown - he is probably also paying the price for his olympic commitments healthwise at this time.

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Originally Posted by leemajors

come on man, this guy has been playing for 3 years straight with no summers off as well as 2 recently injured ankles. i think we can cut him a little slack for being a bit tired at the end of a very very long couple of years. as far as i know, the only person on the pistons who has made that sort of commitment timewise is larry brown - he is probably also paying the price for his olympic commitments healthwise at this time.

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He still manages to lead his team and get his MVP numbers...


I think he's a miracle worker.

In the game 3 pre-game, Stuart Scott said that Ben Wallace had GUARANTEED that Tim Duncan would not have more points and rebounds than him and Rasheed combined ... over the next 2 games he got away with a hell of a lot on Tim by way of pushing, bodying up and hacking ...

They were doing all of it today, making life HELL for Tim .. but he gave it everything he had ... how many times today did he miss, then get the rebound and go at it again and get the points ... dunked one, got an And-1 another time, tipped in other people's misses ... he did a lot of good things ... and a lot of bad ones starting from the 4th qtr onwards .. but the good outweighed the bad easily

No. End of story.

Through 5 games of the NBA Finals against the team with the best interior defense in the league, he has been the best Spurs player.

..and he is at best 80% fit.

Amazing.

Tim Duncan did his job and Horry did his.
TEAM.

Yes, he missed FTs, but it is not like he does not miss FTs all the time. He will miss them again, he is less confident in his FTs than any other part of his game. In the grand scheme of things, I would take Shaq, Wilt Chamberlain and TD on my team in a heartbeat even though all three of them are not good FT shooters.
Overrrated??? No freaking way. Do you even watch him play??? He is not only one of the best rebounders and scorers in the NBA, he is one of the top 3 defenders in the league as well.

He admitted that he choked at the FT line, he said that Horry bailed him out, he knows everything that people are saying about his screwup, but he is still the best player in the league, and is is NOT overrated.

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Originally Posted by dav4463

Spurs would be nothing without Tim Duncan. Nobody is perfect, that is why it is a team game. It's about time somebody carried him for a change.

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fucking ditto. :tu

I love labelling a dude with 2 championships (hopefully 3 soon), 2 Finals MVP, 2 MVP, I don't remember how many first team All-NBA, defensive teams, and All Star teams with 5 missed FTs and a couple of dumb mistakes. I also love forgetting the fact he scored the game winning layup vs. the Sonics, how he destroyed the Suns and the Nuggets, how he sucked in the Pistons defense, sacrificing his own stats for the good of the team. Sure he is overrated.
And isn't it funny how Duncan is overrated because he can't win w/o the Admiral, but then the Admiral rode Duncan's coattails to two championships?
BTW, Horry is great, but I doubt Wade would do all those antics, he seemed to have his feet on the ground most of the time, can't fault him for being young, good, and the media jumping all over him. But if it was Sheed who did it .... hmmm ... oh well, I still like Sheed, the dude is fire.