Boom! Goes the EV Paradigm.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

I would guess they figure the tipping point I was talking about to be about $20/kw

So they are going to be at $125 per k/w, and this is down from $470 per k/w relatively recently.


This is where U.S. competitive advantage in innovation will win out in the long run, IMO.

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bump. Poptech missed it.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-the-wind.html

10Q: How AES Captures and Stores the Wind

Making batteries twice as cheap means they can afford to store twice as much power.

They are talking 50MW chunks, up to 400MW storage.

An interesting point is that this capacity is instantly available, increasing the stability of the grid.

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This also increases overall demand for renewables, with their fixed fuel costs, i.e. zero.

Within the next decade the naysayers are going to see a lot of changes. It is interesting seeing all these new business models popping up.

next commodity boom/speculation/scarcity? lithium

Pretty good guesss, tbh.

Giving Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Cars Another Chance



http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...n_.single.html

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

next commodity boom/speculation/scarcity? lithium

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Maybe asteroid mining.

I forget, can we find it there?

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Giving Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Cars Another Chance



http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...n_.single.html

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We don't need subsidies there. All these makers know there is a market for a viable solution. The first to patent it will make out big. Besides, rather than hydrogen fuel cells, we need to focus on methane fuel cells. Methane is more easily stored than hydrogen.

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next commodity boom/speculation/scarcity? lithium

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Possibly.


Until they find a technology that doesn't require it. There are some interesting possibilities out there.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

We don't need subsidies there. All these makers know there is a market for a viable solution. The first to patent it will make out big. Besides, rather than hydrogen fuel cells, we need to focus on methane fuel cells. Methane is more easily stored than hydrogen.

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Oddly enough, one large stony asteroid pulled into orbit woud make hydrogen fuel cells, and their platinum catalyst plates a lot cheaper.

(have to double check about that, but I am pretty sure most fuel cell designs require platinium as a non-consumable catalyst, which is why they are not cost effective)

Heh, we will see if the asteroid miners can change the game.