Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

does minority status confer immunity to racism?

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From watching the news coverage, I automatically assumed is was racism. I'm not so sure now.

Tough call...racism or a douchebag with a gun.
Seems like if you're packing, situations can evolve into a self-defense/justifiable homicide scenario whereas without heat, you could just walk away.

What a piece of shit. Heard about this and that fucking idiot deserves the death penalty, plain and simple.

FBI and DOJ getting involved because the guy STILL hasn't been arrested.

Would Zimmerman have profiled a white guy as "suspicious"?

would black Trayvon be walking around today if it were he who tracked and shot white Zimmerman?

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Originally Posted by Bill_Brasky

What a piece of shit. Heard about this and that fucking idiot deserves the death penalty, plain and simple.

FBI and DOJ getting involved because the guy STILL hasn't been arrested.

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The state law is a major roadblock to prosecution. Doesn't look too good.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

Would Zimmerman have profiled a white guy as "suspicious"?

would black Trayvon be walking around today if it were he who tracked and shot white Zimmerman?

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Rhetorical flourishes?

complete, grammatical sentences?

Reminds me of the time at the softball park a couple of years back. Someone had broken into some cars one night and pretty much put everyone on notidce. A week later I was arriving at the park and heard a redneck getting out of his pick-up telling his buddy that he hoped someone would try and break into his truck becasue he had brought his glock with him to the park. During a break from my first game that night I was sitting in the car and noticed a pick-up park acriss from me with a couple of teenagers in the bed of the pick up truck with their bikes. The father got out of the truck and started to jog while the boys removed there bikes down from the truck. They stood around for a few minutes and before I know it the yahoo who owned the pick-up truck was running with a couple of other guys to the parking lot and cornered these teenagers. They surrounded them and started to threaten them and asked them what they were doing there. Of course the yahoo went to his truck and was about to , I presume get his gun, and I stepped out of my car and told these dudes that these boys had just been dropped off and there dad was running on the track. Not pleased the guys returned to the field. The boys on the other hand thanked me and were totally spooked. Thank God I was there or who knows what would have happened.

The recent legislation allowing for people to lawfully defend themselves and include shooting people who are running away is stupid and opens the door for incidents like this.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

Reminds me of the time at the softball park a couple of years back. Someone had broken into some cars one night and pretty much put everyone on notidce. A week later I was arriving at the park and heard a redneck getting out of his pick-up telling his buddy that he hoped someone would try and break into his truck becasue he had brought his glock with him to the park. During a break from my first game that night I was sitting in the car and noticed a pick-up park acriss from me with a couple of teenagers in the bed of the pick up truck with their bikes. The father got out of the truck and started to jog while the boys removed there bikes down from the truck. They stood around for a few minutes and before I know it the yahoo who owned the pick-up truck was running with a couple of other guys to the parking lot and cornered these teenagers. They surrounded them and started to threaten them and asked them what they were doing there. Of course the yahoo went to his truck and was about to , I presume get his gun, and I stepped out of my car and told these dudes that these boys had just been dropped off and there dad was running on the track. Not pleased the guys returned to the field. The boys on the other hand thanked me and were totally spooked. Thank God I was there or who knows what would have happened.

The recent legislation allowing for people to lawfully defend themselves and include shooting people who are running away is stupid and opens the door for incidents like this.

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Thank god indeed. You are a hero George. You saved those two teenagers lives. Way to go! God bless.

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"This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about," Zimmerman told dispatchers, adding, "These @!$%#s. They always get away."

The dispatcher, hearing heavy breathing on the phone, asked Zimmerman: "Are
you following him?"

"Yeah," Zimmerman said.

"Okay, we don't need you to do that," the dispatcher responded.

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Common sense says if the kid realized some big guy was following him through a dark neighborhood the kid wouldn't be acting "normal". If neighborhood Rambo hadn't followed this kid and did what he was told that kid would still be alive today...it's that simple. If the guy doesn't go to jail the family should at least bring a wrongful death claim against him. And if it was that kid screaming "help me" on the 911 call right before the gunshot silenced him I think that's evidence enough to bring this dude to trial.

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Police declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, enacted in 2005 and now in effect in at least 16 other states.

Dubbed "Shoot first (ask questions later)" by opponents, the Florida law allows a potential crime victim who is "in fear of great bodily injury" to use deadly force in public places.

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lol Zimmerman fearing great bodily injury from a kid armed with candy and iced tea.

This AFTER the dispatcher explicitly tells him to stop following Trayvon. smh.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Thank god indeed. You are a hero George. You saved those two teenagers lives. Way to go! God bless.

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He probably knew it wasn't them because he was the one jacking the stereos.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rney-announces

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Trayvon Martin case to go to grand jury, Fla. state attorney announces

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"This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about," Zimmerman told dispatchers, adding, "These @!$%#s. They always get away."

The dispatcher, hearing heavy breathing on the phone, asked Zimmerman: "Are you following him?"

"Yeah," Zimmerman said.

"Okay, we don't need you to do that," the dispatcher responded.

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According to Zimmerman's father however........

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"At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon," the letter said, "everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media."

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Interesting.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

He probably knew it wasn't them because he was the one jacking the stereos.

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I'm sure he was jacking something in his vehicle but I doubt George would ever steal anything. George did good even though masterbating is frowned upon. God bless.

Looks like Zimmerman's dad is going to have some competition from Trayvon's girlfriend who was speaking to him right before his death.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...s-watching-him

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"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the female friend of Trayvon Martin, who was shot to death on Feb. 26 in Twin Lakes, Fla., told ABC. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run, but he said he was not going to run."

Martin, who is black, was unarmed when a neighborhood watch captain spotted him walking home after buying candy and iced tea from a convenience store. Call logs from Martin's phone confirm he spoke with the 16-year-old friend interviewed by ABC News minutes before his death, the news station reported. She was not identified, and spoke through an attorney.

Although Martin initially told his friend he wasn't going to run, he eventually did, she said, but the stranger managed to corner him.
"Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

After that, the line went dead, she said. According to ABC News, other than screams on 911 calls as Martin and Zimmerman scuffled, those were the last words Martin said.

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Originally Posted by Agloco

According to Zimmerman's father however........



Interesting.

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Father lied because he knows that following someone doesn't really constitutes for self defense.

Racism or not, the guy needs to go to jail.

Fuck jail; give him the needle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL72w...ature=youtu.be

Not Racially motivated at all... nope. Definitely does not say "Fucking Coons" around 2:20. Nothing to see here.

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Originally Posted by Bill_Brasky

What a piece of shit. Heard about this and that fucking idiot deserves the death penalty, plain and simple.

FBI and DOJ getting involved because the guy STILL hasn't been arrested.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5...artin.html.csp

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Feds to investigate fatal shooting of Florida teen


By MIKE SCHNEIDER

| The Associated Press
First Published 2 hours ago • Updated 1 hour ago

SANFORD, Fla. •The growing national attention — and outcry — over the case of an unarmed black teen in Florida who was fatally shot by a neighborhood watch captain has culminated with the federal government’s announcement that it will launch an investigation.

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Originally Posted by Vici

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL72w...ature=youtu.be

Not Racially motivated at all... nope. Definitely does not say "Fucking Coons" around 2:20. Nothing to see here.

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Wow...this dude is getting the needle or going to prison for a very long time. Zimmerman's father should just STFU now.

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Originally Posted by Vici

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL72w...ature=youtu.be

Not Racially motivated at all... nope. Definitely does not say "Fucking Coons" around 2:20. Nothing to see here.

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Definitely a racist thing to say from an outside perspective, but this guy is down in the trenches dealing with hood-rats all the time, and unfortunately most of them are african-american.

Sad story, but these things happen. Tomorrow a security guard won't pull his gun on somebody and that can of Arizona will be a glock. There'll be no national story for him, though.

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty

Definitely a racist thing to say from an outside perspective, but this guy is down in the trenches dealing with hood-rats all the time, and unfortunately most of them are african-american.

Sad story, but these things happen. Tomorrow a security guard won't pull his gun on somebody and that can of Arizona will be a glock. There'll be no national story for him, though.

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The neighborhood Rambo shouldn't have license to get his gun and play cop just because he sees a black kid walking down the street. Goddamn it would be different if the kid were looking in someone's window or something threatening but this is ridiculous. "Land of the free" :lol A kid can't even walk down the fuckin street these days without being hassled.

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty

Definitely a racist thing to say from an outside perspective, but this guy is down in the trenches dealing with hood-rats all the time, and unfortunately most of them are african-american.

Sad story, but these things happen. Tomorrow a security guard won't pull his gun on somebody and that can of Arizona will be a glock. There'll be no national story for him, though.

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Can somebody give this guy a needle? Not because he might murder somebody, but because stupidity like this should not be passed down.