Diaw is perfect with the Spurs, he needs to be re-signed

@donjuansdaddy I think you are being very optimistic regarding next season's salary cap. I think the days when the cap would increase by 10% every year are over, I may be totally wrong but I don't see it going much more over 60M.
They have over 48M committed to 7 players, if you add Green QO and Blair's team option that will be picked up, both around 1M, and TD at 10M (I think it's a minimum), you get to 60.5M.
I don't know how much would Lorbek ask to come over (I know he's underpaid but has a big role) but that doesn't leave much room for him, outside of the MLE.

If I were the Spurs I would probably resign Diaw and just keep Blair on the roster as the fifth big.

While Blair has no business starting, as a bench big deep in the rotation its hard to complain about what he offers. Plus, his contract is incredibly cheap. Unless I got offered a great trade option then I'd probably just keep him around. But if all we're going to get is a mediocre 2nd rounder in an average draft class - I just don't see the point. Keep the guy that can be productive in stints and knows the system. Besides, your biggest competition is probably Oklahoma City and Blair eats them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

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Originally Posted by donjuansdaddy

http://www.hoopsworld.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary

Here is a very detail breakout of the Spurs Salary for next year and Beyond. Right now they will have 9 players under contract with a total 49mil salary. Mills probably will terminate his contract early and Green will probably be given a qualifying offer. So, at the start of FA, if Duncan isn't given an extension before then, the Spurs will still probably be at 49mil with 8 players under contract, and one restricted.

Duncan's Cap Hold is the biggest drawback right now. But let's say he does sign a 10mil a year deal, the Spurs will be at 59mil. The Cap is suppose to go up to 60-61mil. So basically the Spurs would have to amnesty Bonner or waive Blair to afford Lorbek.

Honestly, with how good the team is doing, I say keep everything as it is. The Spurs could sign Mills with 2mil Exception, resign Green to a long term deal since the Spurs have his early Bird rights, and then resign Boris with the MLE.

So basically, especially if the Spurs win the Championship this year, they more than likely can bring the same exact team back next year if they wanted.

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Still wrong.

The Spurs will have the MLE to sign Lorbek or Diaw. It's cap space or the MLE, not both.

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Originally Posted by Darkwaters

If I were the Spurs I would probably resign Diaw and just keep Blair on the roster as the fifth big.

While Blair has no business starting, as a bench big deep in the rotation its hard to complain about what he offers. Plus, his contract is incredibly cheap. Unless I got offered a great trade option then I'd probably just keep him around. But if all we're going to get is a mediocre 2nd rounder in an average draft class - I just don't see the point. Keep the guy that can be productive in stints and knows the system. Besides, your biggest competition is probably Oklahoma City and Blair eats them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

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This. Bonner and Blair as the #2 and #3 big men is a huge hole. Bonner and Blair as the #4 and #5 big men is a nice deep rotation. How many teams really have better guys at the end of the depth chart?

I do hope that Mills picks up his player option, though. He hasn't cracked the rotation except for garbage time, so it's not unthinkable that he might still play for the million on his option next year. I doubt there are many teams watching and saying -- whoa, let's get that garbage time guy in here for the MLE or something. And if we could bring him back as Parker's backup with a full offseason and training camp of development, he could make a big leap.

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Originally Posted by donjuansdaddy

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...een-tim-duncan

Here is a good article to answer your repetitive response on this matter.

The only way the Spurs can pickup Lorbek without using the MLE on him is by cutting someone from the team to Lower their cap where they can squeeze him in between the Duncan and Green resignings like I already stated. But that more than likely isn't happening. There are always loopholes and Pop and RC are the best at finding them.

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I'm only repeating the same simple fact that you don't understand how the system works. Can't use cap space and the MLE, have to choose one or the other.

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Originally Posted by donjuansdaddy

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...een-tim-duncan

Here is a good article to answer your repetitive response on this matter.

The only way the Spurs can pickup Lorbek without using the MLE on him is by cutting someone from the team to Lower their cap where they can squeeze him in between the Duncan and Green resignings like I already stated. But that more than likely isn't happening. There are always loopholes and Pop and RC are the best at finding them.

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LOL dude how many times should one and the same thing have to explained to you, seriously! You either use cap space or MLE, you can't use both - no way you can sign Lorbek with cap money and then spend the MLE on Boris or someone else. Either - or, dude.

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Originally Posted by donjuansdaddy

I know that. But you can use Cap Space if its there. And what makes it work is that Green only has to be given qualifying offer this year of 1mil. It will more than likely be bump to 4-5mil if and once he is resigned. So resigning Green to a 4-5mil contract will push the Spurs over the cap at which time the full MLE would be alotted to them. If the Spurs had some extra cap space to use after resigning Duncan but before resigning Green they could use it to sign Lorbek. The only way they can clear enough cap is if they Amnesty someone like Bonner who has close to a 4mil cap hit.

But as it stands now, Spurs will only have enough to resign Green, Duncan, Diaw and pickup a couple of minimum Players, which is all good.

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:lmao

You say that you know that and then you lay out one of your tortured scenarios where they have cap space, then go over the cap, and then have the MLE.

It doesn't work that way. It can't work that way. It won't work that way. Stop trying to imagine scenarios where it could or would work that way.

:lol gnsf CBA

Even if the Spurs win it all this year, I hope they will try improving the roster. Duncan and Manu don't have much time left. Which means re-signing Diaw and bringing Lorbek or a better amnestied player for cheap.

As others have stated, and based upon his on-court production thus far and how much Pop has gushed about Diaw, I think he's a cinch to be back next year. As of now, he does appear to be happy, he's contributing and the Spurs are winning. It's been a seemless transition and a perfect marriage thus far.

Obviously, no one knows what his contract desires would be, but I'd have to guess something in the way of the MLE would be acceptable. I'd like to see what he can do with a full offseason conditioning program tailored to him by the Spurs coaches.

All that said, I'd still like to see the Spurs to invest in a young, cheap, athletic big to begin an apprenticeship under Duncan.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

As others have stated, and based upon his on-court production thus far and how much Pop has gushed about Diaw, I think he's a cinch to be back next year. As of now, he does appear to be happy, he's contributing and the Spurs are winning. It's been a seemless transition and a perfect marriage thus far.

Obviously, no one knows what his contract desires would be, but I'd have to guess something in the way of the MLE would be acceptable. I'd like to see what he can do with a full offseason conditioning program tailored to him by the Spurs coaches.

All that said, I'd still like to see the Spurs to invest in a young, cheap, athletic big to begin an apprenticeship under Duncan.

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If there are athletic bigs with any talent that we can get for cheap, I'm all for it. But that's usually a precious commodity.

I thought that a team would get the MLE if they were under the cap by less than that amount.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

I thought that a team would get the MLE if they were under the cap by less than that amount.

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That is true.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

That is true.

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If the team then uses said cap space, do they keep the MLE?

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

If the team then uses said cap space, do they keep the MLE?

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No.

Cap space or MLE, not both.

You guys are missing the obvious value of the large expiring contracts of Manu and Jax, both players we want back who are past their peak contract years and aging a bit.

Spurs can sign Duncan for $8 million, renegotiate Manu to $8 million x 3 years, Jackson to $7 million x 3 years. Re sign Green for $5 million.

That gets the Spurs under the cap to the tune of about $7-9 million depending on Patty and Blair.

While all that might not go as planned, some combo of that along with a Bonner amnesty/salary dump/trade could be enough to bring over Lorbek while retaining Diaw.

These so-called "experts" in here need to quit poo-pooing the idea and figure out how to make it work. There is my proposal, what are the holes...?

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Originally Posted by Knoxxx

Spurs can sign Duncan for $8 million, renegotiate Manu to $8 million x 3 years, Jackson to $7 million x 3 years.

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Too little. Not allowed in the CBA. Not allowed in the CBA.

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Originally Posted by Knoxxx

That gets the Spurs under the cap to the tune of about $7-9 million

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Negative.

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Originally Posted by Knoxxx

depending on [...] Blair.

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He's not a FA.

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Originally Posted by Knoxxx

what are the holes...?

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There were a couple.

Wait till he loses weight and he gets down to 240 pounds.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

:lol gnsf CBA

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:lol

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Originally Posted by timvp

Too little. Not allowed in the CBA. Not allowed in the CBA.

Negative.

He's not a FA.

There were a couple.

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:lol

Why do I always hear people suggesting a player could "restructure their contract" :lol has this ever been allowed in NBA history?

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Originally Posted by timvp

Too little. Not allowed in the CBA. Not allowed in the CBA.

Negative.

He's not a FA.

There were a couple.

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Since you know the CBA so well, what if any is the wiggle room to renegotiate Manu/Jax. What I suggested was not so different than what we did with Jefferson under the prior CBA. All I did was add two years to each contract at $5 million each and average the dollar amounts over the three years.

I get "not allowed under the CBA", so just what is allowed along these lines? Where there's a will there's a way, I figure, subject to the CBA.

The $24 million owed to Manu/Jax, above market in this CBA environment and for this stage of their careers, are the biggest obstacles towards making any signifcant roster adds in '13.