Contracts cannot be "re-negotiated". This isn't the NFL. You play out your contract, or you extend it, but contract numbers for next season are set in stone...no, encased in diamond.
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Contracts cannot be "re-negotiated". This isn't the NFL. You play out your contract, or you extend it, but contract numbers for next season are set in stone...no, encased in diamond.
Tough summer.
Theyre gonna have to decide Green or Neal possibly and right now I'd have to go with Danny Green.
Shame theres no way to keep Diaw and bring over Lorbek while dumping Blair.
Lorbek would be great as the fifth big.
I don't get it. Why are they deciding between Green or Neal? Isn't Neal under contract already for next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
I thought we renegotiated rj enabling Splitter signing. Why all the condescending responses?
Neal is under contract for 2013 fool!
RJ declined his contract and signed for more years but less per year FOOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
RJ had a player option for the last year of his contract. He decided to opt out of it to sign the extension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
I haven't checked but apparently Manu and SJax are not in the same situation (or at least, not for next year).
And Lorbek, if he wanted to come to the NBA, must really hate Diaw right now. Lorbek went from being a desirable big with a bargaining chip (in case he wanted to stay in Europe, he could have tried to inflate his value like many others did before) to an unproven NBA big trying to edge out a vet who seems to be a perfect fit in the Spurs system.
Furthermore let's remember that Diaw previous contract, signed while he was obviously younger and after a nice contract year, was $9m per, and everybody thought he was badly overpaid (given his play in subsequent years). I fail to see how an older version of Diaw, with his history, and despite his rejuvenation, can command more than the MLE for any team.
Actually, I'm not even sure he's worth the full MLE right now, but if the Spurs have nothing else to spend it on, he might get the full MLE indeed. That seems fair for both parties.
RJ had a player option, he declined it and became a free agent, he then signed a brand new contract with the Spurs, thus he didn't renegotiate it, it is not allowed under the CBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
The only way to get rid of Manu's or Jax's contracts would be to find a team under the cap willing to absorb their contracts in exchange for a pick ( or adding a pick ) and a TE. I'm pretty sure there would be takers for Manu, but no way the Spurs do that.
http://1.2.3.9/bmi/2.bp.blogspot.com...1600/wanda.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by donjuansdaddy
The Spurs talked RJ into opting out and guaranteed him a contract offer if no other team wanted him. He wasn't opting under any other circumstance.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
Good bigmen in the NBA are getting paid. For example, Glen Davis got paid $25.7M over 4 years last December.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
If Diaw has a good playoffs run, it would be a no-brainer for Spurs to offer him the full MLE with whatever specifics he wants (player options, trade kicker, singing bonus..). A starting level PF for the MLE is a bargain.
I think it was lack of motivation more than anything for Diaw's lacklustre performance over the years. Playing for the Bobcats after being traded from the Suns did not help at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
The Spurs have a different environment - even more so relevant for Diaw as Parker plays here - and I think he would be doing some good work in the offseason (he has to play in the Olympics as well) to stay in/get into prime shape.
As for Lorbek, the only way he gets into the Spurs squad, IMO, is if the Spurs sell Blair to a below-the-cap team for a second round pick in 2018 (a la Theo Ratliff) and then Lorbek is willing to play for a million dollar contract with raises for a couple more years. Or perhaps someone bites on Corey Joseph as well and the Spurs manage to offer a million more.
So, i think the only way to get BOTH Diaw & Lorbek would be salary dumping Capt Jax to any team under the cap, creating enough cap space to sign those two big men with reasonable contract, no ??
Ofcourse, the Spurs would have to renounce their right to any salary exception, CMIIW.
trade lorbek and whatever scrubs on the team to move up on the draft and farm the pick
They don't have to decide between Neal and Green. Neal is locked for the next season and Green is a RFA considering we have his early bird rights. They're not going anywhere unless a dumb team severely overpays for Green.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Diaw or Lorbek is true though. We can't have both
He as always struck me as a guy who when signs, sits back and relaxes. But maybe the aforementioned team situations have caused this lack of drive.
Wait and see... I wonder how much Parker can influence his will to play hard in the regular season after he is "made". Now that Parker is wearing big pants he can play big brother.
Glen Davis is 26, Diaw is 30. Diaw also got a big fat contract when he was 26 (much bigger than Davis, by the way). This is Diaw's last true contract, and given the way he played in the past + the fact that he won't fit in every team/system I don't see anybody giving him more than the MLE. Miami would, if they could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
It looks like the Spurs look what they see, Diaw likes what he sees, and the price is fair. That points to a deal.
Re: Lorbek, the road to Lorbek goes through Bonner being amnestied. since the Spurs like Bonner and Lorbek is unproven (and not even sure he wants to come), I can't see it happening.
Using the amnesty on Bonner will not change the Spurs' ability to sign Lorbek.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
It really doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
Edit : Mel being first again :toast
Salary dumping Jax won't be easy to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursIndonesia
IMO, the LLE isn't a that unrealistic way to get Lorbek. If he wants to join the NBA, a 2 years LLE contract with a player option on the second year is a quite good solution for him. What he will lost in salary, he will gain it in freedom.
AFAIK, that would work, assuming Diaw and Lorbek would both fit under the cap. (And, of course, that some team under the cap wanted Jack's contract.)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursIndonesia
Edit: beaten by Bruno.
I thought the new rules did away with the LLE. Am I mistaken?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
your mom was a championship pick up, imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Stalin
Taxpaying teams cannot use the LLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
From Coon's summary of changes to the new CBA:
2011 CBA: Taxpaying teams have a smaller midlevel exception, can acquire less salary in trade, and cannot use the biannual exception.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...pares-last-one
With it taking 2 seasons to get early Bird rights on a player I'd think the Spurs would feel pretty strongly about wanting to have Lorbek locked up for that second year. If you give Lorbek an out after the first year then you'd have to use your MLE to re-sign him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno