http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=788...goryid=2378529
This video is crazy :lmao
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=788...goryid=2378529
This video is crazy :lmao
Fuck her and her constant race card-playing self.
Fuck that volleyball in highschool playing, broad shoulder having, barritone voice, dyke bitch
An argument can be made for both.
Her point has validation, the Bulls did have 98 player games missed, and they did lock up number 1 seed in all of NBA, because of the win against SA, in SA I might add.
Her argument that the Spurs won because of their deep bench actually gives Pop more credit, because he obviously got a lot out of some players that had difficulties prior to this year(Green, Splitter), which is because of good coaching. Developing a deep bench and instilling confidence in the bench are tributes of a good coach.
I would not have argued had Pop came in second in COY this year, as both candidates were well deserving.
You can't have it both ways sports media.
You can't say the spurs are past their prime and no longer contenders to begin the season,
and then say Pop does not deserve COY for getting this team to the best record in the NBA with one all-star, two aged stars and a basket full of 2nd tier talent because he has the "deepest team in the league," and pop "just did his job." As if this team does this well with just any competent coach.
Hell, Kobe-Shaq did not reach their potential until Phil came along. The right coach makes a huge difference.
If only she could trade in her looks for brains.
a) Apparently she can't actually speak a full sentence because they had to edit phrases together on the video.
b) ummm... what? A whole bunch of Spurs players are going really well, new players and young players have fit right in and contributed, Parker has stepped up his game to a MVP-consideration level, and oh the coach had nothing to do with it? Yet Thibodeau gets all the credit for tying the Spurs record, but in the crap-laden East conference?
c) ummm... Ginobili played only 34 out of 66 regular season games. Rose played in 39. Yet Thibodeau gets all the credit for working around major star outages, and Popovich was "just doing his job" ????
d) Popovich was the OVERWHELMING choice of the COY voters. He received 77 out of 119 first place votes. Thibodeau got 27. (Apparently 15 idiots voted for somebody else.) So they are all stupid?
e) "Popovich is the best coach in the NBA" but "this year he's not" ??? whaaa???
Didn't watch...I already know how stupid she is. No need to waste several minutes of my day validating that knowledge.
she's black....
Oh Jesus...Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
If the above occurred she would be both ugly and mentally retarded.
Shit... It has occurred.
Fuck her. There's a reason the Spurs are The healthiest they've been going into the playoffs in several years... Time management. I'm not saying Pop was hands down COY, but wtf?! The Spurs had the best record while missing their best player most of the season and severely cutting back the other two's minutes. Hell, sometimes Pop even looked like he was forfeiting games by resting all 3, and we still pull out a win.
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Originally Posted by QuietDynasty
Sounds like she's a regular poster on Spurs Talk.:blah
'Cuz San Antonio isnt black enough for her!
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Hill has been criticized for taking unpopular or extreme stances, leading many to accuse her of inflating her ESPN.com page hits by creating controversy. She has also been accused of racism and being obsessed with race.
Meaningless award tbh
She should tell that to Pop in person.
I didn't watch the video because she is just awful, but I don't think I've ever read comments on the ESPN boards that were so one-sided. I don't know if the people agree that Pop should be COY or the Jamele Hill hate is that strong. Either way, fuck Jamele Hill and Israel Gutierrez.
:rolleyes If she was saying good things about the Spurs, suddenly Spurs fans would love her.
Don't get trolled so easily.
Her own argument is flawed if going by extraordinary measure Vogel deserves it more than thibbs. She also uses Stephen Jackson and Boris Diaw as reasons for Pop not winning and they didn't play for the spurs for over half a season.
What about T.J. Ford who only played in 14 games and RJ who only played in 41. I'd say Pop had to do a lot of lineup juggling and experimentation to get to the best record in the league with his regular season starting SF and his veteran backup PG missing huge chunks of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by YoMamaIsCallin
Add in the almost seamless incorporation of Mills, Jackson and Diaw in only 20 games through today.
She looked nervous on the tape. Maybe she knew she'd get a ration of shit for her opinion.
I have been the BIGGEST Pop hater here so IMO;
Pop deserves this award. I am eating shit right now.
Having said that, again IMO;
The job is only halfway done and I am praying to have to eat more shit when and if the Spurs win the title. If the Spurs do not then this means absolutely nothing.
You can't have it both ways. If you are good enough to be Coach of the year then you should win the title. If you fail to win the title with all the "embarrassment of riches" then you failed.
If you win the title then you are absolutely deserving of any and all accolades.
Please Pop, finish the job.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7869302Quote:
Originally Posted by romad_20
I disagree with her across the board.
She mentions Rose missing games, but how many games did Manu miss? He's arguably the Spurs best player when healthy and in form.
Also, Pop gets the most out of everyone on the team. This wasn't a one man team for sure, but alot of it has to do with Pop's coaching and getting the players to execute consistently on a daily basis.
Plus, let's not act like the Bulls are a one man show. They're a very deep team.
Sorry, but she's way off. Pops did a helluva job and deserved the coach of the year.
Meh. After hearing Pop's press conference, he'd probably agree with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
The next time I give a shit about what some chick not named kori says about sports will be the first.
She sites the depth of the Spurs as a reason Pop didn't deserve the award...."Pop was just doing his job...managing such an already good team..."
How the eff does she think this team got to be so deep?? This team has pretty much one player that was a definite, no brainer to succeed in the NBA. The rest are players that pretty much everyone passed on and it required Pop to brush off the dirt and plain old hard work coaching to make them good.
Parker - 28th pick, unknown teenaged frenchie
Ginobili - 57th pick, everybody passed on him twice
Kawhi - 15th pick - like a lotto pick for Pop, still had to deal Hill to get him
Green - 46th pick, couldn't even get off the bench in Cleveland
Neal - unfriggin drafted!
Splitter - 28th pick, had to wait for years to get him
Blair - 37th pick, dropped big time 'cause of knees....no problem with knees so far
Bonner - 48th pick, traded Rasho for him, Rasho due to make too much money
Anderson - 20th pick - unusually "high" pick for SA, talented, making little money
Diaw - wasn't playing for the worst team in NBA history
Jackson - 42nd pick, Pop turned him into a champion, head-case everywhere else
Mills - Aborigini from Aussie...has doubled his trailblazer stats, cheap deal for SA
You give these guys to another coach the same way Pop recieved them.....and you got a friggin lotto team or even a developmental team...
What does Pop do... take one stud, add a plethera of scrubs, unknowns, and has beens... wins the eqivalent to 62 games, all the while resting the most important players.
And this has been the Pop and SA way from the beginning. Look at all the rosters....they are all the same....unknowns and projects or players past their prime....matched up with number 21....and you get 15 years of winning basketball, averaging 58 wins per season, along with 4 championships, and they're not done yet...
Pop is a boss. Period.
Meh, easy way to get all the Bulls fans to visit and repost it. Lots of traffic. Do yourself a favor and don't click on it.
Smells like GNSF up in here
her lambo's blue!Quote:
Originally Posted by QuietDynasty
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Originally Posted by BigTex342006
I couldn't have said it better myself............and then to piggyback off your post, when a player leaves the Spurs they don't even have the same individual success, let alone team success.
Dude forgot about Richard Jefferson obviouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas82
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TwelveGs210
That bitch is a idiot.
Quoted for truth. This is what Popovich did better than anyone this year. We lost Manu Ginobili for important stretches as well as recently up and downs with Tiago Splitter. He's incorporated plenty of new pieces into the fold and really transitioned with the team. This team is remarkably and boldly better in every way over last year. The only position without true strength is at the 4/5 where size could be needed. No offense to Blair. She calls Pop the best coach in basketball, lol that's irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by shorttotry
:lobt: :lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:2012 - Ring for the thumb
Nice post, but you forgotQuote:
Originally Posted by BigTex342006
Duncan - DNP - Old
The way he managed team minutes in this brutal schedule was masterful.
Spurs would have more wins in the East...
she has a point, even though same shit could be said from a lot of past mvp and most improved winner. Where was all the bitching then.
So would Rose have an intact ACL with Pop coaching?
The East is weak is a great counter point, although this gal is certainly entitled to her opinion. After reading the thread and then watching her video, it did not come across as bad as I thought. At least she was all over the Spurs' jock generally.
First I have heard anyone say the Spurs that much >>>> Bulls, but I guess the Heat are the media darlings in the East, and Rose playoff injury emphasizes that Bulls are not great without him.
Makes some good points but doesn't see what Pop really did during the season, managing to play none of his stars many minutes and get contributions from perhaps the highest variety of players in a team, from uncoachable players, to out of shape players, stars in their primes, stars past their primes, chuckers, guys afraid to shoot, etc etc etc
The player management by Pop this year was nothing short of superb. Either guy was a toss up for the win, Thibs having won it last year def had something to do with Pop's margin of win.
With that said, fucking annoying bitch with her racism man, can't stand her on first take lol
Yes Pop would have gotten him out of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Jemele Hill is a p.o.s. How the hell did she get a job with ESPN?
:toast Excellent and well-thought out post! :flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTex342006
Pop managed minutes, did everything he could to have healthy and fresh guys for playoffs. Despite that Spurs had best record in West, and lost league`s best by tie breaker.
Bulls got first placed, but they are tired and already have 2 starters injuried. While Spurs are killing 8th seed, Bulls are going to lose their 1-8th series.
Thibo have good team, he is good coach, but he pushed his team beyond its limit. He made huge mistake in this shortened season.
What a stupid bitch hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who the fuck let her out of the kitchen anyways?
Bulls had a weaker strength of schedule. The Bulls were not starting rookies. The Bulls did not need to incorporate three new pieces mid season.
The Spurs far exceeded expectations, the Bulls lived up to expectations.
"Embarrassment of riches"? Like she picked us to come out of the West or something. What a clown.
Im pretty sure Pop would willingly and gladly give up the COY award for another ring.
Never thought an Internet meme could apply to a real person but jemele with those color contacts is both fake and gay.
According to Basketball Prospectus, Chicago ranked 17th most and San Antonio was 2 slots lower at 19th most games lost to injury. Kevin Pelton actually did the study based on the last 3 years, but for 2011-12, the Bulls and Spurs were only 2 slots apart and nowhere near the number of games lost to injury that Monty Williams' Hornets (3rd most) and Larry Drew's Hawks (5th most) had to deal with.
Weak argument by Ms. Hill since her main premise is based on games lost due to injury. She might have had one of her questions batted-down by Pop in a presser one time...or something. Feelings hurt, perhaps. It happens.
Popovich "just doing his job"? Please. Nobody managed player minutes like Pop did this year and his team still finished tied for the most wins. You know that ain't right, Ms Hill.
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/...articleid=2225
who?
Everyone knew D. Rose wasn't right this year. They really should have brought him back more gradually.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
The one place the Bulls have depth is at point guard. They could easily have found minutes for someone else at the end of that game.
"absolutely did not deserve..." What a fucking fool.
I don't think it's so black and white as you portray it to be. It's tough to win an NBA title and it depends largely on luck. You can't say that losing in the finals or western conference finals is on the same level as being booted in the first round. Both cases are failing to win the title, but it's in different fashion. Especially considering how many tough teams there are to beat in a 7 game series, such as the Lakers, Thunder, and Heat. If a western conference team wins it this year, they will have had a very tough road to the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverblk mystix
I think it's different for coaches of different teams though. If you fail to win the title with a prime LeBron, Wade, and Bosh, then yes you failed.
She's kinda fat. Just it.
All that and he still ain't on Spurs Talk? Ha Quality TakeQuote:
Originally Posted by spursfan19
By Him
:lolQuote:
Guys quit bashing her. Nobody ever takes what she says seriously anyway.
i doubt she get an interview with pop, its easy to talk shit when ur gettin spoonfed script
Great. Yet another ESPN hater.:rolleyes
Embarrassment of riches is exactly what most people would have called a starting lineup that included D-leaguer Danny Green, a waived Boris Diaw and an unknown rookie named Cow-eye. Yeah right.
This is literally the first time I have ever heard of her. Her opinion means absolutely nothing to me.
So then Thibbs didn't deserve it last year. He simply did his job, and with an MVP playing all season, he should have the best record in the league.
Besides, it's a man's world, bitch. You just live in it.
She says Pop is the best coach in the NBA then says, he doesn't deserve COY honors. Isn't the COY supposed to be for the best coach, whether or not he "does his job?" Isn't that a double standard?
"embarassment of riches" I didin't know we had Lebron, Dwayne and Bosh on our team.
Impossible to say, but if I had to put money on it I would bet he would have had a lesser chance to tear the ACL under Pop. I am however a lot more confident that his condition would have been better managed by the Spurs team (from conditioning to potential rehab).Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
As for the original post.
I understand the point she is trying to make, but the facts she uses actually speak to the opposite of her thesis. The "embarassement of riches" is probably the worst while the games missed by Rose is just sloppy journalist work. What is funny is that I thought this year Pop actually was extraordinary - which for a coach that is already pretty good when "he just does he job" is quite an amazing achievement.
Bad column either out of lazyness or to create traffic on her page.
to say winning COY you should back that up by winning the championship in the same year is foolish
anything is possible in the playoffs, while the COY is awarded base on how a coach does in the regular season then what equates in the playoffs......
most of the awards handed out are base on regular season play, seriously they should change it and either have it base on playoffs as well or have seperate awards for RS AND PO.....
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Originally Posted by romad_20
Can't believe that POS had the Spurs beating the Jazz in 7 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
She must be getting boned by a Bulls player.
^ thisQuote:
Originally Posted by B-Hath
Bitch, get back in the kitchen and fix me a sammich! :lol
Jemele Hill is the worst thing to happen to espn...her racial agenda is fucking tiring.
She even said the Colts should draft RG3 over Luck...so that tells you all you need to know about her sports knowledge.
Hedo says hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas82
her coach of the year will get raped by the Philadelphia 76ers...
Overall I have to say Pop has done a masterful job this year and fully deserves the award. He may not have made the moves he needed to make in timely fashion, but in the end they got done and he got his veterans to the playoffs healthy and has kept them healthy (so far, knock on wood). Thibs can't claim the same. And even if Rose was still healthy, I'd say she's still full of something (Amare Stoudemire's dick?).
She's just another two-bit bitter ESPN writer who loves NY and hates small market teams like the spurs and also the fact that she doesn't have the power to hand them a trophy every year.
She's one of those people that we all know who still worship Jordan, and want the Bulls to return to the glory days of yesteryear. Thibbs' record is padded because the Bulls play in the eastern conference. You would think that even a professional analyst could figure that out.
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Originally Posted by timvp
There are people who are critical of the Spurs, who I still respect. She isn't one of them.
I would say she is a hack, but it would be insulting to all the hacks out there. She says "if this sports thing doesn't work out" she will go to LA to write for The Young And The Restless. I think she's onto something. She has no business reporting sports.
Remember her getting suspended for this gem? "Rooting for the Celtics is like saying Hitler was a victim. It's like hoping Gorbachev would get to the blinking red button before Reagan. Deserving or not, I still hate the Celtics." Then she was suspended again for telling Green Bay fans to give Favre the "Duracell treatment" - as in throw batteries at him. And then later wrote that John Calipari was like Charles Manson?
Making her a national reporter for ESPN was some kind of social experiment that should have been abandoned long ago. She adds nothing to the sports she reports on, and gives no value to the fans. Her only claim to fame is writing outrageously stupid shit to increase hit count. I'm not mad that she said that about Pop - it's what she does. I just don't like her taking a job away from a competent sports writer.
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