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Stockton was in the house....
Stockton was there. Which is even better.
Stockton was at the arena.
FTJ.
Sweep coming
Suck it Utah. D rob just gave a fist pump.
I've never seen timvp express such consistent hatred towards anyone as towards Malone.
Not that it isn't deserved. Just an impressive grudge.
:lol Stockton
Now we just gotta hope Karl Malone was tuned in. He probably wanted to go to the game but the Jazz no longer give him complementary tickets, tbh.
Yes.
Fuck them both.
He hates Malone like I hate Terry! Thats impressive lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juggity
Former Laker Karl Malone?
:lol
Yeah, and screw Mark Eaton too!
Actually Karl Malone and Jazz reconciled. They are friends again.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Jazz fan was bailing early. The tabernacle must've been serving free drinks on Cinco de Mayo.
:smokin love Parker owning the pasty gangstah's former court. Suck it Stockton you dirty bitch.
I understand the Malone hate; Malone was such a twat... But why does Stockton bug you so much?
Sure, he'd push the rules as far as he could get away with, but so would Bowen... He was pretty much a model pro in the same mode, who worked really hard, and played some pretty awesome ball. Unlike that Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_ Malone, he wasn't going to try and hurt somebody when he lost. Stockton put it all on the court, would play as hard as he could, and at the end of the series, no hard feelings...
We don't give the Jazz the benefit of the doubt, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by bayareaspursfan
How many times is that? Seems like he gets all butt hurt about something the Jazz do or don't do every two or three years.Quote:
Originally Posted by bayareaspursfan
They're not acknowledging you properly, Karl? Now you know how your daughter feels...
You must not have watched Stockton try to take out DRob's knees 20 times per game in the playoffs on those blind backscreens in the paint. Stockton was dirtier than Malone.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
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Originally Posted by pad300
Bullshit, Stockton was just as dirty as Malone.
The whole team was cheap shot shooting dirty fucks .
The hell? I thought Luck_The_Fakers was for misspelling Sean's last name, not for using the c- word.... Lets try this again,
Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_
Revenge is always nice, but I'll always be slightly disappointed that the Spurs never got to go through the Stockton/Malone Jazz just one more time before David retired.
Still, it's awesome to be on the other side of administering playoff ass whippings in this rivalry.
While we're at it fuck hornecek and Morris too
No rings at the end of their golden era, one of the most overrated in NBA history.
Did he ever actually hurt somebody on that blind back-screen. Unlike say Bowen, who occasionally got too far extending a foot to make some jumpshooter worry about where he was coming down...Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Serving as the backdrop for MJ doesn't mean you were great.
fuck those 2 especially Malone
Hornacek has a front-row seat for this; he's a Jazz assistant.Quote:
Originally Posted by shyne
and Keefe . . . and Foster . . . and Russell . . . and Ostertag . . . and Eisley . . . .Quote:
and Morris too
Did the Jazz bear retire too? I hated that fuckign commie.
Fuck Antoine Carr too.
Fuck that entire crowd and every other jazz fan.
Fuck Jeff Malone. Fuck Brown fuck Brevin Knight
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Originally Posted by pad300
Watch that video a few times. That one Stockton backscreen on Robinson at ~18 seconds was one of his cleaner backscreens of the series, tbh. Malone was pretty dirty, but mostly because he was strong. Stockton was the player who went out there trying to injure you. Thankfully he wasn't quite strong enough to get it done most of the time, although I do remember he knocked out DRob with a back injury during a game once.
The best thing Rodman ever did as a Spur was deliver that cheapshot on Stockton, tbh.
Yes, Stockton hurt people over the years. And he used to love the elbow/forearm to the ribs. Give him credit, I guess, for being sneaky enough to get by with it. But he was a dirty bastard. And I don't say that about many players.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
For the record, two of the most famous times when Bruce was supposed to have extended a foot under a jumpshooter, the guys were shooting 3's and launched so that they came down about 2-3 feet inside the arc, after letting the ball fly. (One was Ray Allen, I forgot who the other was.) If you have to give a guy that big of a cushion to avoid getting accused of being dirty, you might as well say that you can't defend a 3-point shooter. I'm not saying Bruce never got under a shooter, but the two cases they always use as "proof" are bullshit.
Fuck David Benoit and Felton Spencer too.
Great video. Shows what a bitch Stockton was.
Malone was somewhere ignoring his daughter.
Greg Ostertag was a Shrek looking scrub ass bitch.
Stockton was as "dirty" as Bowen imo
Bruce was hustle-dirty. Stockton was evil-dirty.
It doesn't help that their franchise is backed by the Mormon cult.
That video reminds me how happy I am Stockton and Malone never got a ring. It also reminds me the type of horrible teammates Robinson had to deal with (:lol @ Negele Knight and Vinny Del Negro backcourt).
Tbh, I respect those Jazz teams. Hell, the Spurs pretty much modeled their franchise around those Jazz teams. But those playoff losses to the Jazz aren't easily forgotten. Even four championships later, IMO.
Negele Knight Sleepy Floyd PG combination....
Yet Robinson was soft for not winning...
Now that I think about it, winning Game 4 could give some closure. IIRC, the Jazz never eliminated the Spurs in front of a San Antonio crowd. I know they never swept the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
To sweep the Jazz and do it in Salt Lake City could help to close the book.
From the AP report.Quote:
NOTES: Jazz Hall of Famers Jerry Sloan and John Stockton were in attendance Saturday ...
Yep, that's about where I call it. They were both utter bastards to play against who would use any trick they could get away with on the floor. They wouldn't deliberately try and injure someone, unlike say Karl Malone (see Drob, Isiah Thomas, etc). And once the game was over, it was over, and they were men about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursfan092120
And personally, I don't define that as dirty play. If the ref will let you do it, go ahead, so long as it's not going to injure someone ... Getting your forearm/Elbow into somebodys ribs... is take it and dish it back out territory. Bruises are price of admission.
Dirty is Raja Bell clotheslining Kobe. Reggie Evans grabbing some nuts. Rondo throwing Hinrich into the scorer's table. It's where you're trying to hurt someone, not play ball.
Wasn't Malone a Laker scrub though?
You guys thinking Stockton didn't try to injure are being ignorant...
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Originally Posted by timvp
And gosh damn that series was physical.
I was only in 5th grade when I first started watching basketball. Back then it was pretty much Western conference = Jazz and Eastern conference = Bulls. Stockton was probably my favorite but even I could tell that he was dirty player. And I still kind of miss Bob Costas' as a broadcaster and the NBA on NBC theme song.
The Spurs exercised the demons of the past 13 years ago, so I don't want to dwell on it. Instead, look to the future when the Jizz still won't be shit. LOL Hayward 4 points. LOL @ anyone who thinks that team has a future consisting of more than first round exits.
You really think if he was trying to injure people? A guy with Stockton's brains, guts and toughness? I'm pretty sure he would have done a LOT more damage than he did if he was trying...Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
As someone who endured many a long night in Salt Lake City throughout the 90's I sit here tonight a winner enjoying a nice buzz after having watched the Jazz get the full cavity search on National television.
Watching Sloan and Stockton amidst the Utah riffraff this evening was peotic justice.
Fuck the Jazz, fuck Karl Malone, fuck John Stockton, fuck Jerry Sloan and fuck their redneck fans.
Spurs just emptied their balls on the state of Utah.
That fucking Benoit dunk still hurts to watch. The only reason I don't completely hate Dennis Rodman is because he was able to piss Stockton and Malone off so bad.
Don't know how old are you and how much 90's basketball you have watched, so not trying to be obnoxious, but there's no comparison between Bruce's ways and Stockton's. Fuck Stockton and fuck Malone and fuck that franchise.Fuck them. I hope we sweep them and hope NO steals back their name and hope they come out of existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
What was the call for that anyways? You'd think a judo slam would be a flagrant 1 or 2, but I bet nothing was even called.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I was a Rockets fan back in the 90s when I didn't really know jack about the NBA (I turned 10 when the Spurs won their first :lobt:), and one of my top ten favorite players was Stockton. I can officially say he's now one of my top 10 most despised players.
Here's an extended video of that Stockton/Robinson dust-up:
Stockton's initial backscreen was even dirtier. Too bad JR Reid didn't connect with that elbow, tbh.
And then Stockton with the premeditated takedown of Robinson. If Bowen did that, he would have received a multiple game suspension. There's no way Bowen was ever that outwardly dirty.
No offense to anyone, but if you look at Stockton's choirboy looks and think he wasn't a dirty player, you simply didn't watch 90s basketball. Stockton was dirtier and tried to hurt players more than anyone in the league. Those two backscreens on Robinson alone (and those literally happened about 30 times per game) should be proof enough that he was no saint.
Stockton was the toughest, meanest S.O.B. in the game. It's a lot of the reason why he was such a great player. But to think that he wouldn't slice your favorite player's throat to win a game is naive.
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Originally Posted by timvp
You know how much I agree with you on this :lol
Seing Sloan and Stockton in attendance today in SLC, made the game so much more enjoyable.
As for Malone...
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No matter how much time passes between the Stockton/Malone days, I still take great joy in seeing those fuckers get beat down by the Spurs.
Fuck John Stockton.
Fuck Karl Malone.
Fuck Jerry Sloan.
And all the got damn minions that they had with them for all those got damn years.
I hope one day Stockton and Malone look at their ring less fingers and wonder what might have been if they werent such pieces of shit on the basketball court (Stockton) or on the basketball court and in life in general (Malone)
Revenge is a dish best served cold. Fuck em.
All I gotta say is...REMEMBER THE ELBOW!!!
Fuck the Jazz.
Stockton was dirty. but I still can't disrespect him like I disrepect Malone.
as it has been mentioned by Timvp, he was tough as nails as well. and he wasn't afraid to go against 7 footers who put 100 lbs more on the scale.
Malone was dirty, coward and sneaky. (like he used to be off the court as well). he prefered his tough acts against players 100 lbs lighter than him.
To me, the redemption was that final weekend in '99, punking their ASSES in SLC. Even though Malone was awarded the MVP, he was always the second best PF on the floor in our games after that one glorious 99 beat down. That one O rebound dunk by TIm may have been the most raw emotion ever shown by Tim on the floor in 15 seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Can't forget the Timmy Shimmy at the buzzer back in 2003 I believe, also a great moment.
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Originally Posted by T Park
Lol @ the color commentator on that video "clearly Robinson flops to the ground"
Yeah those extended arms by Stockton had nothing to do with it...
Nothing is going to make up for .4
But knowing the coattail riding dirty SOB retired ringless that year helps a little.
That video bring me memories, my 1st season as a Spurs fan. And I hate the Jazz since that
Stockton was watching... that's for sure! :lol
That all initially began with Stockton illegally screening Robinson and getting pissed Robinson threw him aside. JR Reid had already experienced Stockton's illegal screens and gave him a second reason to be mad. So Stockton takes in out on David, who he knows wont try to hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I watched Stockton screen illegally so many times I wanted to vomit. He would use the bow to the belly. He would use a knee to a knee. And after he had done the dirty deed, he would flop screen. He would just step in front of moving players constantly and one never knew if he was going for a dirty blow or flopping.
But... the guy could really play.
Malone was dangerously dirty because he was so massive. Malone pulling Stockton tricks would have put a bunch of people down and out.
The announcers...
...started with Robinson and Stockton initially getting tied up.
Stockton frckn grabs Robinson on the screen so Robinson threw him off...
I agree completely with his hatred. I think you can tell how long someones been a spurs fan from who they hate... The wrath of malone in my blood is thick, especially after he elbowed drob in the ear and made him collapse..Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Fuck Malone, Stockton, and all those pasty ppl on their roster.
Just imagine the bloodbath that would result if we could combine Stockton's intent with Malone's strength.
Watching all of these highlights still makes me sick. Top 4 on my dislike list:
1. Shaq
2. Malone
3. Stockton
4. Gary Payton
The reason I have Malone/Stockton as 2-3 because they NEVER won the 'ship. NEVER! D-Rob '2' and retired on top. What a way to end a wonderful career. And what a way to end the Malone/Stockton careers!
i got a really good satisfaction seeing stocktons smug ass there while sa was dismantling those fckn jazz yet again
Stockton is lucky that DRob was such a gentleman, or else Johnny boy would've left the arena on a stretcher.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...PduwfePwi5GmdgQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
Enjoy the past. That fine ringless team is all you'll ever have. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
lol about to be swept out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashionQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
lol jazzfan
David Robinson could've broken John Stockton in half without breaking a sweat if he wanted to. As a matter of fact, DRob could still do it today. Like I said, there are a lot of players who are lucky Robinson was a good Christian gentleman.Quote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
Oh, BTW...get ready to be broomed outta the playoffs on Monday night. :lmao
Top 20 point guard of all-time.
Top 20 power forward of all-time.
Top 20 coach of all-time.
Active at the same time.
Nothing to show for it other than a bankrupt car dealership.
Props.
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Originally Posted by STdalamon
Robinson has 2, Stockton and Malone the punks have zip.
Game, set, match.
Fail.
Not as bad as the present day lakers. Well, actually Fish is gone so it might be close now.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainballer
I also have much respect for John Stockton, and for what he could do out on the court. He could be a dirty player at times, but so could Bruce Bowen.
It's been 14 years since that 1998 Finals, and the Spurs have won 4 :lobt2: in that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
How many have the Jazz won in that time? It's an easy question. :lol
Oh, BTW...the 1999 Championship was over the Knicks, not the Lakers. :lol
:cry Jordan stopped them in 99 too :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
:cry My team has never been good enough to win any rings and now it's about to be swept out of the playoffs, please love me guize :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
HUH??? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
LOL MVP Karl Malone getting his title dreams ended by Jordan... I mean, Brian Grant.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905270POR.html
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Originally Posted by STdalamon
last i checked they hung banners for rings and not "playoff series"
:lol @ hanging onto the past
Cold-blooded how Jordan made Malone miss all those free throws in Seattle.
:lol @ 3 of 16 in a close out game for the "MVP"Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
choke
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by T Park
3 of 16 in a close-out game to a team that got skunked in the next round tbh.
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Originally Posted by STdalamon
Possibly if you only count the first 47 minutes of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
Then again, probably not
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...806070CHI.html
This is the most hilarious thing I've ever read. :rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
I must commend you on your trolling, sir.:clap
:lol @ quoting PopQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon