I Hope Karl Malone and John Stockton Were Watching That

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Warm Karl 0 for 19. At least Kobe was able to lead his team to 2.

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Must have missed the leading.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Warm Karl 0 for 19. At least Kobe was able to lead his team to 2.

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With the exception of two prime years, he had to go through the consensus greatest player of all-time. Sure, Bryant was able to lead his team to 2 . . . with a men against boys front line to do the heavy lifting for him.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

With the exception of two prime years, he had to go through the consensus greatest player of all-time. Sure, Bryant was able to lead his team to 2 . . . with a men against boys front line to do the heavy lifting for him.

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If MJ was the only thing holding him back, he'd have two rings. Instead, Hakeem has them. Excuses, excuses.

He played Jordan twice. You might make that argument for an eastern conference team, but no way you do for Utah. He played like shit in the 97 playoffs anyways, and in the 98 he just choked the way he always did in big games. Malone is Webber with a better point guard and better health. LOL @ Malone shooting a Jermaine O'Neal esque 43.5% in the playoffs his first MVP year and an Iverson esque 41.7% in the playoffs his second MVP season.

Maybe the only player in NBA history more overrated than Warm Karl is Russell.

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

If MJ was the only thing holding him back, he'd have two rings. Instead, Hakeem has them. Excuses, excuses.

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Who said he was the only thing? He was clearly the biggest though. And with the level Olajuwon was playing at in '94 and '95, he wasn't too far behind.

baseline bum, I never said he stepped up in the '97 and '98 Finals. But this notion that he's "arguably the most overrated player ever", is nonsense. He's constantly disrespected, so I'm not sure how he could be considered overrated. If anything, he's underrated at this point. Bryant, Russell and Nowitzki, are the most overrated players of all time.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Who said he was the only thing? He was clearly the biggest though. And with the level Olajuwon was playing at in '94 and '95, he wasn't too far behind.

baseline bum, I never said he stepped up in the '97 and '98 Finals. But this notion that he's "arguably the most overrated player ever", is nonsense. He's constantly disrespected, so I'm not sure how he could be considered overrated. If anything, he's underrated at this point. Bryant, Russell and Nowitzki, are the most overrated players of all time.

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He's ridiculously overrated when people think he's up there with Duncan for the greatest PF to ever play and that Jordan stole his titles. Malone had his chances and choked against lots of other teams besides Chicago. It's funny to see people even bring 98 up since Pippen was rendered completely useless in the first minute of game 6, which made Chicago eminently beatable (especially on Utah's own floor).

Jazz fan is one dumb motherfucker.

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Originally Posted by STdalamon

Ahh yes, the classic rings argument. You all know damn well that no Spurs team could have even come CLOSE to beating the 96-98 bulls teams. but yes, enjoy the fact that you beat a lakers time that the jazz swept, a piss-poor Cavs team, an even worse Nets team. The win against the Pistons was probably te only impressive one, but we all know damn well that this team wasn't half as good as the 96-98 bulls.


Again, I'm waiting on a response: how many times did you guys beat Stock and Malone in the playoffs? It's an easy question :P

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Zero...

The same number of times you guys have beaten Duncan. The Jazz had better teams than the Spurs at that time. But now, its over. We have never lost a finals, you have never won a finals.

Good riddance.
See ya next season.
Take some nice pictures on the boat to nowhere.

The Jizz did beat Duncan in 98.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

The Jizz did beat Duncan in 98.

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Indeed they did.

Now you made me hate them even more.

Saw a lot of green seats very early, then refill, and then leave again. I like that.

Good for him.

0 rings.

scoreboard.

Go away and go home.

Why did they keep the " Jazz " name anyway ?

Right, because there is nothing there

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

He's ridiculously overrated when people think he's up there with Duncan for the greatest PF to ever play and that Jordan stole his titles. Malone had his chances and choked against lots of other teams besides Chicago. It's funny to see people even bring 98 up since Pippen was rendered completely useless in the first minute of game 6, which made Chicago eminently beatable (especially on Utah's own floor).

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That's what made Jordan's play so awesome. He basically carried the team himself in that last game. The guy had an unbelievable will to win.

Let me end this thread in old school style:

https://p.twimg.com/AsWiBvPCMAAkitS.jpg


Damn, that's an old school reference, tbh.







(:lmao @ Keith Closs going to the Clippers game tonight while wearing his own jersey)

IBTL

:lol Closs
:lol Beatdown by hoodrats
:lol Only player in the NBA with no groupies

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Originally Posted by STdalamon

Ahh yes, the classic rings argument.

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you are right. rings are sooooooo overrated.

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Originally Posted by STdalamon

Again, I'm waiting on a response: how many times did you guys beat Stock and Malone in the playoffs? It's an easy question :P

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oh wait. maybe rings are not overrated. if you got some, you no longer need to point out some meaningless historical statistics.
you just need to count.
one, two, three, four.......

The Jazz with Karl Malone and Stockton played the Spurs with Duncan in it 25 times and the Spurs won 16 times and lost just 9 times in all games - both regular season and playoffs...

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Originally Posted by STdalamon

Beat them?

Id say he Malowned them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bsuLF0DqzU

Lets not forget this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwN9s_ags18 dishing 36 against the "strong defensive tandem" of Rodman and Robinson

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And then Tim rose, and the Jazz were no more. Malone's last 5 years with the Jazz were a lesson in futility. The Spurs and Lakers replaced the Bulls. Malone groveled around for a championship. He could not find one. Even with a supposed super team. Malone now lives a life as a cloistered, bitter, Nun without teeth.

Rodman was a horrible defensive player for the Spurs. He was all about rebounds. He would play D only when he felt like it, which was not often. Any awards he got with for D while with San Antonio were based on reputation.

I think timvp got drunk last night.

I highly doubt either one of those guys gives a flying fuck what happened in that series.

:lol Lakaluva-style titles

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Originally Posted by Venti Quattro

:lol Lakaluva-style titles

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I don't see any mention of Naruto in any of the titles.. :lol

Narutimvp :lol

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Originally Posted by Venti Quattro

:lol Lakaluva-style titles

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Well, it has been a well known fact that Lakaluva = Timvp