:lol going with the bench early
:lol giving Jazz Fan false hope
:lol make the sweep sting even more
:lol Jazz
:lol Gordon Hayward
:lol Enes Osterkanter
:lol No future
sw:lol:lolp
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:lol going with the bench early
:lol giving Jazz Fan false hope
:lol make the sweep sting even more
:lol Jazz
:lol Gordon Hayward
:lol Enes Osterkanter
:lol No future
sw:lol:lolp
He just wanted to have something to work on during practice for the next week.
Good series, Jazz.
Now kindly GTFO!
Never forget the elbow.
Ftj
:lol big lineup
:lol being outscored in the paint throughout the series
:lol having momentum for game five
:lol oh wait
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
It's ok, they'll improve with that 9th pick...
...whoops.
The bench gave us the big lead.
I'm not sure if was good or bad to put the starters back tbh.
Splitter +21 Bonner +20 Neal +13 Jackson +12
TP,TD -13 Diaw -12
That last Jazz bucket cost me £40 ($70)... I had £20 on Spurs (-7.5) at Evens :(
We almost choked against the weakest team in the POs tbh, nothing hilarious.
BTW, Props to timvp. He called the sweep all along.
I was worried about the Jazz, but the Spurs made quick work of them. Hell, that last 6 minutes of Game 4 was the most tense the series ever got.
:lol still waiting for that hard foul Harris was suppose to put on Tony
Fuck the Jazz!
Yawn. Almost only counts in hand grenades, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Paranoid Pop
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Eh to be fair I think Alec Burks, Derrick Favors, Gordon Hayward, and Enes Kanter are guys you can build your team around. You might even be able to turn them into a future starting lineup with a point guard. I don't think Devin Harris is going to cut it and I'm not personally a huge Paul Millsap fan even though he's a good player, but Al Jefferson is a premier center who still hasn't hit his prime. No, I don't think they're capable of playing at our level right now. We made that pretty clear in this series, but give them a few years and I think they'll have a tough team.
Jazz future isn't nearly as bright as people have said imho.
Never forget the 90's.
F Malone.
F Stockton.
F the Jazz! :flag:
Great job
FTJ
:lol at timvp adopting the NBA forum subculture, tbh, fwiw, imo.
Worst fans and city in the NBA.
Told you guys these Jazz were the worst team the Spurs have ever gone against in the playoffs since Duncan's arrival. This series going 5 would have been mildly surprising and 6 or more would have been shocking.
Jazz aren't the weakest, that belongs to the Magic. On the road the Jazz aren't impressive, but at home they had a top 5 record. The Knicks are way less impressive so far as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paranoid Pop
All three are so far down at the bottom of the barrel it's not even funny though.
Tbh surprised to see a dead Jazz crowd for 90% of the game :wow
:lol @ anyone thinking enes Kanter is worth a shit
Memphis 04Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
But he had one good game against high schoolers at the Nike Hoop Summit in 2010!Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Another one bites the dust!!!!!
I still don't know what I think about this tbh. I thought the starters were subpar and that maybe Pop should've just changed the ballhandlers for the bench. But a win's a win I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josepatches_
I think if everything goes right for them they could be a second round type team. They'll need to upgrade their roster to become contenders but a Memphis or Indiana type of skill level is a possibility if everything goes right for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
The ghost of first round exit is gone (as soccer fans here call the demotion of a team to a another league when you end the season last: "the ghost of the b series")
Pop keep on trolling during the press conference
:lol the Jazz are classy
:lol very good classy team
:lol ty being a great classy classy
Some reporter actually had the balls to ask Pop what the keys to victory were in tonight's game. He rolled his eyes, no doubt thinking 'who the fuck let this gnsr in here', then said 'score more points.'
I'd take Gasol over nobody tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
They don't have a Gay or a Randolph; hell, I don't think they have a Granger or a Hibbert either.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkeptic
That was a baby franchise In its first playoff run against the reigning champs + horry.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
they were led by a Gasol who was still totally unproven and totally soft, and overall they blew ass
Derrick Favors has potential monster written all over him, especially if he gets an elite PG to play with.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8FOR!3
I think Jefferson and Millsap have hit their peaks, can't see them getting any better. Jury is still out on Burks and Hayward. They will probably be good bench contributors, but not starters on a championship team.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I was thinking more Eastern second round but theoretically Favors could become their Hibbert and they could maybe platoon Millsap/Harris into a second option and Hayward into their third or something. Like I said though, everything would have to go right for them to reach that ceiling.
I'm thinking they'll have to add a few more pieces to get higher than that (so of course they'll have to make trades and the like). I guess I might not have been clear.
Favors is obviously the one very good piece the Jazz have. It's difficult to figure out how good he can be since he's only 20 years old and hasn't played with a good point guard. It looks like he could become a dominant defensive bigman ... but he's still really raw on that end. He doesn't have great size so that limits some of his defensive potential. Offensively, he's getting more and more well-rounded. His ceiling is like a young Amare Stoudemire plus defense. But the much more likely outcome is something like PJ Brown with more scoring ability.
The rest of their team .... meh.
Al Jefferson is too bad on defense and too one-dimensional on offense to ever be anything more than a starting big on a mediocre team.
Paul Millsap tries hard but he's most useful as a 28-30 MPG third bigman.
Devin Harris isn't a starting quality point guard anymore.
Gordon Hayward looked horrible in the last two games. I still think he could be a solid piece on a winning team but probably as a fourth option at best.
Burks was looking good earlier this season but he hit the rookie wall and never recovered.
Kanter looks horrible. He's even worse than Jefferson on defense and his back to the basket game is pitiful. You could put Neal on him and I'm not sure he has the wherewithal to do anything. He's young but right now that looks like a terrible pick.
Josh Howard is done. Tinsley was done about five years ago. Carroll is a nice 11th man energy player.
Lets keep in mind the timvp is being more biased and juvenile this last week than at any point in timvp history :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
:lol @ gnsf thinking that started in the nba forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Uriel
Enes Kanter = Andrew Lang
The Jazz if they are honest with themselves did themselves a disservice making the playoffs.
Going into the lottery, getting two great picks in a top 15 deep draft would've been best for them. Drafting a legit PG and legit SF would've done wonders.
Getting swept in the first round and hardly contending did nothing for their development.
I like Carrol's energy. Probably fringe rotation, but still nice to have around.
Looks like I got some threads to search for. :readingQuote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Kanter was very good at the 2011 Eurobasket. I think he is still a damn good prospect even if he had been really bad in these playoffs.
I meant in this forumQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
We all know he gets off on trolling longhorns
:lol I had to enjoy the first round bye AKA the pending Jazz sweep, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Now it's time to be serious again.
And I was being serious with those comments. Which one do you disagree with?
Wouldn't have been too mad if it went 5 games, I just want to see as many spurs games in person as possible this playoffs. :lol
guys with long braids are known to be energy players who dont provide anything else....faried, blackman...look at the trend, guys who cant shootQuote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
I think Jefferson is a little better on d, Hayward ceiling can be a third option, and Carroll can still be better than an 11th manQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
But that's nitpicking, overall I totally agree
You don't think Pop wouldn't give his left*cough*Blair*cough*nut for Kenneth Faried?
haywood has potential if in the right system and environment, his clearly under utilized on the jazz due to no game plan....a player who can shoot and dribble efficiently only needs to concentrate on areas of weakness aka defense in their skillset....his like that iloysova clown from the bucks who can really shoot....Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Haha he madQuote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
And to think....we could've used our amnesty on Richard Jefferson, and gotten Josh Howard to show for it.
*shudders*
I give a :tu to the lone Jazz fan left. Props to coming back even after the sweep.
Good luck on Favors turning into Dwight Howard.
I bet Tyrone Corbin would not want that.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I'd say that Favors' biggest advantage is probably his athleticism and standing reach on the whole. He's not huge or anything but he's not particularly undersized either height-wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
Edit: But Dwight Howard's probably not a good comparison.
Hey hey. Tough loss by the way but I thought Utah played with purpose this game. I liked their adjustments as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
Harden is also a bad comparison for Hayward imo. Stats really don't tell the whole story there either although the numbers probably show that Hayward will shape into a good player. I don't think anyone's disputed that. And sure you can tell a player's ceiling in their second or third year. It's easier with wings than bigs though.
Kanter isn't a bust but he's not nearly as high quality a big as Favors if you ask me. As it stands he should probably be coming off the bench for now. His play at Eurobasket has me hesitating as far as the final verdict is concerned but with some work he should at least be a rotational player.
Jazz have some decent pieces to work with and they'll get better either way but after seeing the whole series I don't think they'll be championship contenders unless they pick up some higher quality pieces. If I were the GM I'd start with the 3 and then the 1 because Howard isn't good and I don't think Harris will cut it long-term.
Lol dang sons, dalamon is pist.
I ain't even mad anymore. This sweep exorcised all those demons.
What the hell is a Jazz?
:lol Coach "mutiny makes me angry" Corbin's nightly filibuster
:lol Favors giggling like a school girl after being swept
:lol Jazzfan "trolling" Spurstalk, leaving with tail firmly tucked
:lol Devin "the Parker Stopper" Harris
I heard the Charlotte fandom wants the name "Hornets" back.
And I heard Tom Benson is willing to give it up, but wants New Orleans to have what is rightly theirs.
Utah should go Old School and bring back the Stars.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
I personally don't see it with Favors, but if it's any consolation I know RC was in love with him coming out of Georgia Tech.
Ok... you can cum up for air off Pop cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Utah can always look fondly into their trophy cabinet for consolation...
PS We owe them one more. I may be old but I never forget.
I think you're right about most of them, but I disagree with Hayward and Kenter.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Hayward just turned 22 a couple months ago. This would've been his junior season in college. He improved dramatically in his second season, with his PER jumping from 10.73 to 15.59, and he really jumped a level the last couple of months. Obviously he wasn't ready for the intensity of the playoffs, but tbh it would've been a major surprise if he was.
Hayward often gets compared to Manu, and I think they have some similarities in his game. Obviously Hayward has to spend the summer in the gym not just getting stronger but really working on his jumper. However I think where he's really being under-utilized is as a ball-handler/passer/play-maker. It's not like they have a good point guard on this team, and none of their bigs can pass worth a damn, so there's no reason why he shouldn't have the ball more. If I'm Corbin, I attach Hayward and Favors at the hip this off-season and have them work on a million pick-and-rolls, showing them tape of Manu & Tiago and Tony & Tim.
I think Hayward could be at the worst the third best guy on a championship club someday, if not the second. The problem is right now they don't have that elite guy and I doubt Favors will be that guy. I think it's premature to dismiss him though because he's already a better player at 22 than Manu was as an NBA rookie at 24. Let's see where Hayward is at in a couple years.
As for Kenter, I think he was in an unfortunate situation, losing almost two years of development because of that eligibility scandal at Kentucky. Still, he's a young guy and he's got some skills. It's not like he's Hasheem Thabeet out there. He just needs to play with a point guard and to spend an off-season at a big man camp. I wouldn't give up on him so soon.
Manu won a championship with his team at the age of 22. Sure Ginobili had to adjust to the NBA (Hayward's a second year player) but I'm not at all convinced that this year's Hayward is a better player than 24 year old Manu. Imo Harden has more in common with Gino than Hayward does at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by roycrikside
That said, Hayward is obviously going to be a nice player. Based on what I've seen from him this series though I'm starting to think a player like Luol Deng should be the expectation and if he exceeds that then it's obviously good for Jazz.
You haven't looked out East recently, have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paranoid Pop
No need for insults.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
:p:
He has valid points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisky Dog
As a Spurs fan, I love the sweep but in perspective.. I think the opposition will only get a tougher from now on, whoever we face in the next rounds - the Clips (likely) or the Grizz and later among OKC/ Fakers.
If I was a Jazz fan, I would be heartened by the performance of the Jazz the whole year. They managed to rebuild on the fly without having to tank too much since the loss of franchise player Deron Williams. They have a good core of young talent - with several deficiencies - but tinkering here and there will yield them a bright future around Favors, Hayward, and one among Jefferson/Millsap. So there.
Dont understand wtf so many people see in Hayward tbh. I didnt see any small flashes this series that would make me believe he has the potential to be a star. Theres not one facet of his offensive game that stands out. His first step off the dribble is slow, his handles are average, his shot sucks, he cant finish at the rim that well, his playmaking/courtvision is overrated. I didnt watch Jazz games during the season (doubt many of you did either) but going off of this series I dont see the same tenacity on offense that I see from him on defense. He almost seems content to just blend in on offense.
We swept them and our average margin of victory was over 10 points a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paranoid Pop
Damn chokers. :lol
Just cause your team got bukkaked doesn't mean you have to be mad son.Quote:
Originally Posted by STdalamon
Mal:lolne
Fav:lolrs
That's right, Utah has won the next fifty prospective championships, in his mind.
Beat that.
Yup...he mad!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisky Dog
Hey, Utah...how's our ass taste??? :lmao
Oh...one more thing...
THE SKUNKER!!!!!
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Enes Osterkanter :lmao
The kid looks like a massive bust. No hops, slower than a turtle and gets tripped or blocked every time he goes to the low-block.
The only thing he is good at is rebounding.
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/5100/235668489.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Pop was like, "Okay...I'm pulling the starters with 8 minutes left."
The Jazz were like, "Hey, maybe we can actually come back and win this game!"
Pop was like, "Psyyyyyyyyyyche!!!" :lmao
I almost feel bad for Utah.
Devin Harris... thinking Kanter has a real future...
I said almost.
I'm a UTAH resident and I went to the Jazz vs. Spurs game in Feb and April. When I attended the February contest after the Richard Jefferson 3-ball in the corner to seal the game, I was shoveled sooooo much shiz for being a Spurs fan, I had ONE ignoramus shout at me and my date "WHATEVER, DUDE! YOU'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN TO SAN ANTONIO!!" :bang:bang:bangQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
AS IF my travels or even being FROM somewhere dictates the teams I cheer for, OR any prior residence determines such! :hat
I just smiled at this UTAH HOMER and held up 4-fingers and shouted back
"4 RINGS, SMOKEY!! FOUR RINGS!!"
He didn't like that reply. :lmao:lmao
NOW I'm like "SWEEP BITCH!!" :ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit
And horseshoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
:lol Osterkanter. Finally got it the fourth time somebody said it.
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Originally Posted by Nathan89
imo, the jazz should rebuild now by trying to get rid of everyone not named favors.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
kanter somehow manages to play dumber and move slower than he looks.
Is it related to Greg Ostertag, the top 10 center of all time that once playing for the Jazz ?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Top ten of a best (victim) poser in the dunk poster. :lol
Respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursIndonesia
Dell Demps on Pop
http://www.jimrome.com/junglehighlig...465575/1656421
Straw man fallacy. If I accuse you of adopting the elitist mentality that pervades BNSF's, do I think that elitism started in SpursTalk? Of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
You had me laughing at the word Jazz.