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I believe it was our first game against the clips where Danny completely shut cp3 down. He was pestering him constantly and Paul never got comfortable. That said I don't expect this every game, and Paul did torch us once I think, but Green has shown that at his best be can really bother Paul.
Either Danny G or Kawhi L. Either of them can drastically clog C-3PO's passing lanes and disrupt his 'court vision'. Paul will still make plays her and there, but LIMITING his playmaking is MISSION CRITICAL.
Tony needs to step it up and guard CP3. Green or KL can go for short stretches but they can't last guarding Paul a whole game.
You put Leonard, Green, Jackson, and probably Neal in alternate against Paul to give him different looks. At the end of games, it's all about Tony Parker vs CP3.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT
saw Green play against CP3 live, and it was amazing. he pestered him so much. Parker can conserve his energy guarding Foye
saw Green play against CP3 live, and it was amazing. he pestered him so much. Parker can conserve his energy guarding Foye
Neal couldn't guard Chris Paul if he was in a full body cast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Venti Quattro
Werd. Like Parker he could be shifted over to handle one of the Clips smaller off guards if Pop is going to insist on using him in a PG role but the D he showed against Devin Harris would be giftwrapping points for Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
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Originally Posted by hemann82
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we need to wear him down, pop should play mills for the full court press all the time, then switch with someone of the bench....tire the fucker out...
The key is making CP3 a passer or scorer but not both.
put green/leonard on cp360
ive been watching the games closely and cp3s favorite way to score is getting a screen and shooting an offbalance mid range shot from around the free throw line
having length who can get up and contest the shot will help a lot
and of course if he decides to take it to the rim hell be met by tiago/tim since they wont have to leave the paint
loling at the thought of griffin/jordan/martin killing us with mid range shots
i remember tiago shitting on cp360 after getting switched on the screen
made him airball one shot then blocked the other with his hands up when paul flopped into tiago
I don't think foul trouble should be a major concern. It's possible TP might get in foul trouble but it's unlikely. Only five players in the entire NBA foul less often that Parker on a per-minute basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
That's one of the biggest question marks of the postseason. The Utah series didn't answer that considering that the Jazz literally have no perimeter scorer who can be classified as above average. Gordon Hayward is probably their best perimeter scorer and he averages less points per minute than Green himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
In the regular season, Green had a little bit of success against CP3 ... but not much. Whenever CP3 really got going, he pretty much got what he wanted against Green. But then again, there isn't anyone who can totally shut down CP3.
I actually think Parker is by far the best defender to throw at CP3 ... but Pop's strategy will be to try to tire out CP3 by having Green guard him while simultaneously forcing CP3 to defend Parker. In theory, Del Negro could put someone else on Parker but that'd be a pretty bad idea since Parker would likely destroy anyone not named Paul.
Safe to say you aren't talking about the final game between the two when Green guarded CP3 all game and CP3 ended up with 36, 11 and 1 turnover.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinandimcool
Green has not looked good in the game clippers beat us, Paul owned him
That's an understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
They can do what they did with Amare/Nash back in the day.
Let Amare get his, and contain 3pt shots and Nash.
I have a feeling that Green on Paul is going to be a disaster, but he's got to at least be the secondary defender on him. Parker's not going to literally play every second Paul does and even if he did, like you said, Pop wouldn't want to wear him down. And there's really no other even semi-appealing option in the rotation. Leonard would probably be third by default, but I expect Pop to stick to Parker and Green.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
If Del Negro has an ounce of common sense, he'll use Bledsoe plenty in this series, both to get up into Neal and disrupt the offense and as his secondary Parker defender. Sure, he can't make Parker work defensively like Williams could, but he's an excellent on ball defender. He's not in Bradley's class, but he's a tier under that and because he plays such limited minutes, he can easily afford to pick up full court on every possession. Del Negro should actually think about playing the three small guards together on occasion. The Spurs are limited as far as being able to defend small, quick guards and other than Jackson, they don't post any of their wings.
My only worry is if Pop relies on Green, the dude might not handle the pressure. I hope Green will prove me wrong though. I also think that the best thing to do is, put Green,KL,TP, or even Jax on Paul to give him different looks and in this way Pop won't tire TP out.
No one person in the NBA can "shut down" Chris Paul. It doesn't even necessarily matter who we put on him because he will most likely rip up a nice little new asshole no matter what. Memphis put Tony Allen on Paul and he's basically been tearing him apart all series, especially in the clutch. Hence why the Clippers all the close games in the series. And Tony Allen is a Top 5 perimeter defender easily.
The important thing is to keep the other players on the team from also tearing us a new asshole. Griffin, Mo, Butler, Young, all those cats. Contain them. Chris Paul will get his points, crossovers, couple nice highlight lobs, all while flopping and crying for calls. That will happen, but we must keep everyone else from also going off. Make transition defense a priority. Rebound the basketball. Attack the basket, Jordan and Griffin are extremely prone to foul trouble. Run our offense, and knockdown our shots.
Danny Green will most likely be taking on CP3 man to man, but it will be Team Defense that wins this series.
DefensivelyQuote:
Originally Posted by JustinJDW
'08 Bowen>2012 Allen
2012 Paul>'08 Paul
2012 Parker>'08 Parker
Bowen didn't succeed on containing Paul either. Putting Green( the player we have closest to Bowen/Allen in perimeter defending) on Paul goes against your theory.
What does it matter, if he wants to score hes going to switch a bigger player on him and go to work. It has to be a team effort and have key situations to trap him out on the perimeter. Parker will just need to match his effort on offense and everything will take care of itself.
Incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
My theory is that no one person in the NBA can shut down Chris Paul, or even really contain him. Which really isn't even a theory, but more like reality.
Did I ever say that Danny Green would shut down or even contain Chris Paul? No, I did not.
We're most likely putting Danny Green on CP3 because he's best fitted for the job, but it will take a team defense to win this series. By this I mean consistent help team defense on Chris Paul, and defending the other players as well to keep them from ripping us apart. Because that's how teams become unstoppable. When not only the star is beating you, but everyone else also is. That's how our offense has become unstoppable.
So how does this go against my theory/fact? Oh wait, it doesn't. In fact, it only does so if I say that Danny Green would shut down or even contain CP3 by himself.
Oh wait, but again, I never said that. You know why? Because its not true.
So no, that doesn't go against my theory/basketball fact.
^The thread suggests options for 1v1 defense against Paul and I just explained that putting Green on Paul will just be the same as putting Bowen, even worse. But yes, you are correct, the only way to contain Paul is team defense but I just wondered what people think about Parker or any player in our team guarding CP3 1v1.