I wouldn't be so sure, harden played spectacular in the Dallas series this year, he isnt scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by Sense
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I wouldn't be so sure, harden played spectacular in the Dallas series this year, he isnt scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by Sense
Let's put it this way... I don't think he'll ever dominate the playoffs like 2005 Manu did.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursfan1000
There are a lot of great players that could never do what he did that year.
Well if we're talking about one year, I'm damn sure harden later in his career can dominate a playoff run. He had everything you need other then the experience, which he will get every single year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sense
MANU is a GOD
and
Harden is a human
Simple as that
we're talking about 2005 super manu here, come on guys
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Originally Posted by spursfan1000
Yeah well... I'm saying I don't think he can.
Were you even a Spurs fan in 2005?
Yes I've been a fan since 03',Quote:
Originally Posted by Sense
Oh alright, but you were 10 or 11 in 05, I probably shouldn't expect you to understand the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursfan1000
I was in fact 11 but I watched every single game and I've seen the championship video many times. I'm not saying manu wasn't a god at all, he was spectacular but what I am saying is harden has all the potential in the world, and he looks like he must have good worth ethic, sky is the limit for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sense
Prime? LMAO, Manu is far superior and it is not even close. Manu was a better defender and is the best passer among shooting guards in the league.
Manu didn't win that award in his prime...
Manu and its not even close, IMO.
God, it's like some of you don't remember how great Manu was.
The question makes no sense. I love Manu as much as anyone, but we have no way of knowing or predicting what Harden's prime will be. It's only a question you can ask in the past tense of both of their careers.
I will say I'd take Manu in his prime over guys like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller.
I'd probably take Reggie in his prime over Manu, tbh. Its close, though.
:lol @ even bringing up Ray Allen.
Ginobili in his prime obviously.
Right now, I'd much rather have a healthy Ginobili than a healthy Harden. Harden is a very good player but he still has a ways to go before he lives up to his Next Ginobili potential.
Since Harden hasn't really done shit yet, it's a no brainer.
I think if you ask coaches and players, they pick Manu over Harden by a large margin. Harden has great game, but he's got a while to develop a resume he doesn't currently have.
Harden hasn't even hit his prime & he's damn good right now, in the end it will be close.
Oh, never mind. I misunderstood the question. Prime Manu over Harden now?
Yeah, that's stupid.
Well like I said I don't think he can, I know it's too early to tell... but Manu is too unique to think there are more like him, especially when Harden is this young. It has nothing to do with statistics or Harden's statistics on a weak Mavericks team that got swept. Harden is a 3rd option right now, Manu was our first in the playoffs for some years for a reason. I don't see Harden being a first team option in the playoffs unless he got his own team.. which is very hard to predict this early.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursfan1000
someone else said it best. harden is awesome, but not as good as prime manu. however, since harden is still very young, its not out of the question to guess that prime harden could surpass prime manu
On a related note, if teams did the 2009 draft again, do you think Harden goes above Griffin? I think Griffin is pretty overrated - terrible post moves, doesn't play a lick of d, relies purely on his athleticism - and that Harden is actually the better player today.
A Manu in rhythm is one of the best of all time. He is simply a maniac when he's hot, offensively and defensively.
Hmm, now that is a good question. I think Blake still goes above him because I think Blake has the higher ceiling but I agree compltely about how overrated he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursBills
There were several plays last night where he got fouled in the lane and he didn't get a shot up on any of them. I think thats weak as hell if you're a big man in the NBA.
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