Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Spurs are shopping forward DeJuan Blair, league sources tell Y! Spurs have Euro picks they could bring over next season, need roster space.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Spurs are shopping forward DeJuan Blair, league sources tell Y! Spurs have Euro picks they could bring over next season, need roster space.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
After falling out of the rotation this season in San Antonio, DeJuan Blair is open to a move, sources tell Y!
No surprising but very interesting that it's becoming public knowledge. Wonder if something is heating up.
It makes a lot of sense to trade him at some point tonight.
Today could get interesting quickly.
:hungry:
Going into next year, if the Spurs aren't planning on starting Blair, he doesn't fit on the team at all. And starting him seems unlikely.
Perhaps for a high 2d round pick? (If so, there may be some intriguing Euros as well as some upside statesides like Tony Wroten.)
Hopefully we get something good in return
Can you imagine the meltdown here if DB gets 20 rebounds in his 1st game against SA next season ? :lmao
Draft day is the best day of the summer. Its like the christmas of summer,it's so exciting!
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DeJuan Blair @DeJuan45
Great morning have a great day
Interesting. I wonder if Cleveland would be open to trading the 24th pick and Varejao. Not sure how the cap numbers would work out but packaging Splitter, Blair, Neal and/or Bonner would make us better defensively. Not sure where he is on the injury though. With the 24th pick, Andrew Nicholson might be available.
:stirpot:
Please make a move RC
Preferably involving a rocket
And I hope Neal is also on the trading block. I don't want to see him at back-up PG any more.
Wonder if he can get them into the late first? If they could flip him to land someone like Quincy Miller, Marquis Teague, or Tony Wroten, it would be a good gamble. We already know Bonner is ahead of him in the rotation anyways, so the only angle I could take against it is a moot point.
Dejuan's a nice guy, but not a fit with the spurs anymore.
Good point. Varejao could always stop LeBron.Quote:
Originally Posted by acoelho1
I'd guess that Blair is worth a pick in the 30s. If they can get a first rounder for him, that'd be a major win.
That's a nice way to say the Spurs need to go in a different direction because Blair has proven to be too small to be anything close to an average defender.Quote:
league sources tell Y! Spurs have Euro picks they could bring over next season, need roster space
Absolutely. Blair is on a very cheap contract, so this makes a lot of sense. If the Spurs are able to get nothing more than an early or mid-second, that would still be acceptable. A late first would be a freaking home run!
Now, if they can just figure out a way to move Bonner, we'd really be in the ball park!
Not surprised.
It is pretty discouraging although that Hill, Blair, and Anderson didn't work out here when they looked great in their rookie seasons.
Let's hope Leonard doesn't go down the same path but he's on a different level.
Blair and Neal for 20s pick, please.
Would love Wroten!Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ
It really is. Draft day is, by far, my favorite Sports day of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR-Clutch
Happy Draft Day, everyone!
What's interesting is ESPN still talks like he was a really major draft steal whenever they discuss Sullinger. Maybe there is hope of getting into the end of the first. Maybe Miami where they could use a scorer inside and have the defenders to cover for him?
Hill worked out very well, IMO. He played well for the Spurs and then they were able to trade him for three assets, including a lottery pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
If the Spurs can trade Blair for a first round pick, that'd be another huge success. Shall be interesting to see what the Spurs get.
Trading Blair today is probably as close to selling high as possible. His stats look really good. His contract details are great. If the Spurs wait any longer, the only way for his stock to go is down, tbh.
If the spurs move blair and keep bonner...well it would not surprise me anymore.
Confirmation of what we all expected. What's interesting is that even if he is not moved tonight, this signals he'll (1) probably continued to shopped in general trade talks as the summer moves on, or (2) be non-guaranteed/waived to start the season.
I've noticed that too, he is always mentioned about good players falling and how he turned out to be pretty good for us. I also hear the griZzlies are shopping their 25th pick but I don't really see Blair carving out a role for himself there.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Bonner has negative value. Right now, amnesty sounds like the best option for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverblk mystix
No way Blair gets waived. He's no longer a fit but he's well worth his salary. He's getting paid probably 1/3rd of his market value.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
Baseline, I think Blair would be downright nasty on that Miami team.
I've noticed that Blair is usually the first name mentioned when analysts and talking radio heads laud the Spurs for winning with their youth movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR-Clutch
For all his deficiencies, Blair did about as well as he could've. Sure it would've helped if he had a better face-up jumper, but his limitations are just too striking for a frontline that is low on size, skill and athleticism.
I certainly hope the Spurs get a solid pick for Blair. However, moving Blair is only the first phase. They MUST get Bonner off this roster in order to complete the frontline upgrade.
not sure i'm a fan of this. the dude is making peanuts and eats a ton of minutes. considering you deal for equal salary its not like we'd get a good player in return and its highly unlikely we get more than a 2nd round pick, and i'd rather just keep the dancing bear around
The dude is only making peanuts for 1 more season and then wants to get paid...Time to move him if possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
And so it begins. :stirpot:
Well if Budinger was worth #18, hopefully Dejuan is somewhere around 25-30.
I'd be happy with an early to mid 2nd round pick.
I could see Blair working out with Miami. He has a cheap contract and is a good garbage man and rebounder. Works well with the midgetball Spo likes to run sometimes too.
Blair for the 27th pick and then package that with the 2nd round pick to move up?
Expect a Dejuan for a 2nd rounder swap.
:lmao Very possible given our current frontline.Quote:
Originally Posted by elemento
I wouldn't make that move; I think he has more value as cheap injury insurance for the Spurs than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT
You wait to move Blair if its for 2nd rd pick until you see what players are available in my opinion..You move him ASAP if someone is offering a 1st rd pickQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by TimmehC
Prepare to be disappointed was my point. Spurs won't get anything of much value for Blair, and if they are dead-set on getting rid of him then I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it for a 2nd round pick if there is a prospect they like on the board still.
me 2Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
I wouldn't move him unless there was someone specific the Spurs wanted. ie. a mid-draft deal, just like the Kawhi deal was done. Rather, I would hold him and look to use him with Bonner & Neal for a S&T deal. Preferably one at or slightly above the MLE, where we could offer a team a credible choice between the FA walking for nothing, or taking a Blair, Bonner, and/or Neal package...
me 2. Would suck if we made it to the finals and had to see him helping them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
The Spurs could flip DeJuan for Anthony Davis and the offseason would still be a wash if ginger is still on the team at the start of next season.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
Dejuan Blair for Bernard James anyone?
I would certainly love a first round pick for Blair and would be content with a high pick in the 2nd round, but does anyone get the impression that maybe they are trying to unload him purely for roster space? They could decline his option but he has value so that is a dumb idea. This could just be my optimism but I can't help but think they are excited about de colo, Lorbek, maybe Bertans, and some free agent options. And they just need to get rid of some pieces who are good players but a bad fit. Neal is a good player with a small deal but he can't protect the ball enough to play point and he is a bad defender. Blair is a good big but he again is a poor defender and inconsistent. Tiago is certainly the best of the three but he is not easily paired with Duncan.
Trading these guys for draft picks and cash might be a good option just to open up space to bring in players who better compliment the system. Or the Spurs could actually have a player they covet highly enough to sacrifice key players to get (see George Hill).
Dubs fans would riot, and demad Lacob be burned at the stake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas 2 Step
Not sure I'd rather have GS's pick compared to the 31-33 range. No guaranteed deals and we can work out a contract in our favor.
The spurs need to package Blair and Bonner. What's the point of having Bonner with Lorbek coming?
I think it's more likely that Blair is added to a trade as a sweetener than him being traded alone. Even if it's next year's 1st + Blair for a 1st this year.
The Blair project isn't working anymore. It doesn't matter how well he plays during the regular season if he's just going to be glued to the bench in the playoffs.
It's quite possible his replacement is no better than him but it's time to try something different.
Same thing with Bonner but that's another thread.
I would be shocked if Blair was moved for a 2nd round pick. Early 2nd round picks are in many circles considered more valuable than late first round picks because there is no guaranteed monies. Look for Blair to go to Memphis or some other team that has salary issues for the next few years in the late first round.
Would be funny if they ended up trading Blair and get Sullinger in return, but most likely will do another Euro for the draft and stash factor.
How high a pick can the Spurs get for Blair?
John Hollinger (2:02 PM)
20s at best. Knee still a concern, and so is his defense, and you only get him for one year. But a productive player.
Also, Project spurs was reporting that the spurs are interested in a kid named Josh Magette.http://projectspurs.com/2012-article...h-magette.html
I'm an alma mater at the UAH and seen this kid play nearly 20 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR-Clutch
I've met him and he's a great kid. He was perhaps the best PG in Division 2 and plays a great team game.
I'm not sure how his skills translate to the NBA but he has been valued by NBA scouts as a sleeper guy who may get at least a summer camp tryout.
Coach Acuff informed me over the year that scouts have come down to HSV while they were scouting other players in the Southeast to take a look see at him.
I'm not sure if the Spurs ever went to Huntsville (I'm from there) but a few scouts have.
inside info. niceQuote:
Originally Posted by ro_50
Very interesting . . .Quote:
Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress
To follow up on @WojYahooNBA 's report that the Spurs are shopping DeJuan Blair, one team that really likes him I'm told is Golden State.
Blair for 30 would be ironic but it'd be a good deal depending on who drops. The Warriors also have 35. Tbh, 35 might have more value than 30 due to the non-guaranteed contract that's associated with it.
So in effect if they got te 30, the theoretical trade was Dejuan Blair and Richard Jefferson for Stephen Jackson.
Still a great trade.
:lol Trade Bonner with Blair to GS and they will have Jefferson/Bonner/Blair together.
Without a doubt...Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Bonner and Blair for the 30 and 35?
I do remember seeing the rookies play in the rising stars game, and remember thinking that DB and Steph Curry had great chemistry.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Send a tape of this game to the Warriors and then trade Bonner and Blair for Dorell Wright and 30.
:drunk
Minus $10M or so in salary. Excellent trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
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Originally Posted by Duncan2177
That's why I say moving Blair is only 1/2 of the much-needed reclamation of the Spurs frontline. Bonner MUST go as well. There's simply no point in him dwelling another year on this team - Lorbek or no Lorbek.
T Park's gonna have to be a Warriors fan if they end up acquiring Bon Bon + Blair to team up with RJ.
Whatever happens, Blair is done as a Spur. If Spurs can get something good for him, it would be even better.
I think people here are overvaluing early second rounders. I could understand early second being better than late first under the pre 2005 CBA when first round picks were four year investments, but now they're only two years with two team option years after. With a late first round pick you're looking at 2 years for about veteran's minimum. It's a pretty safe investment.
If I were the Spurs, I wouldn't accept anything less than a late first-rounder for DeJuan. Just his stats alone should be enough to entice a team who's front office doesn't do its homework into a trade. DeJuan's deficiencies run pretty deep, but the other team doesn't need to know that when they see that he's capable of putting up 20+ points on certain nights.
Besides, as much of a misfit as DeJuan has been for us, I don't think his value is restricted to that of an early or mid second-rounder. Keep in mind that the majority of 2nd round picks are out of the league within 5 or 6 years while some don't even set foot in the NBA. DeJuan has already proven that he's more valuable than the pick he was drafted at (37).
After a couple of years and attempts at starting him, he's not worth more than he was as an untried rookie? That's a sad comment on a pretty good guy with hustle, but not enough talent to stick here.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Now the question is, who needs him and his limited skill set? He's a guy who may be headed for free agent release in his future.
Is this a serious trade rumor? The Spurs rarely show their hand with trades and even less on draft day.
He was considered the steal of the draft when we got him and he did a damn fine job at times but it's time for him to move on.
Tweet by Woj cited league sources, not Spurs sources. If they're shopping him, the info could have come from any team they talked to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libri
He is what he is...Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
A 6'6" center with potentially bad knees. If he had developed a jump shot- I think his value would be higher. Another problem is his rebounds/36 minutes has declined each year.
I'm reading this as the Spurs dangling Blair and asking for offers. Therefore, the leak is from the other teams. I would not expect any trade for a draft pick until a team was on the clock and the Spurs like what was available. That's one way to get more Spurs fans to watch the first round.
I read last year as the Pacers approaching the Spurs for Hill, a two team negotiation, no leaks.
For what it's worth, I wish the Spurs didn't have to dangle Blair as trade bait. If there were better talent around him, he could be a servicable 5th big. However, the frontline is overdue for an upgrade. If Blair brings forth a pick that can be used toward that end, so be it.
Blair will be traded tonight alongside either Neal or Bonner.
Is it possible?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6npw7zf
Draft Express on Twitter.Quote:
DraftExpress To follow up on @WojYahooNBA 's report that the Spurs are shopping DeJuan Blair, one team that really likes him I'm told is Golden State.
Blair for the 30?
Blair and a 2013 1st for the 7 ?!?
ESPN Rumor Central is reporting the same thing as ^^^ Warriors may bite.
If the Spurs get #30, I really think they're gonna go for Bernard James tbh.
As much as people would make fun of the Warriors for trading 30 back to the Spurs for Blair, the reality is, they'd be more than hard pressed to find a player as productive as Blair at 30. The Spurs should hold out for 30 and refuse to take 35 and 52 instead, unless some unsuspecting player falls to 35.
The 30 is WAY to high for Bernard James. The 59 maybe, but not the 30...Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
I hope this public outing doesn't hurt his value. Hopefully teams interested are motivated by this to put something together. Probably wishful thinking though.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
If they want James, they'd better take him with that propsective #30 pick. It widely believe that the Cavs are very high on him and they have two picks in the early second round. That said, there's no way James would last until #59.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
James' stock has risen alot over the past couple of weeks. He may be 27, but he hasn't even been playing ball for a decade, so he doesn't have all that wear and tear. Besides, Cleveland has already shown interest in taking him at 33 or 34.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
Still, I could definitely be wrong, it's almost impossible to tell who will pan out once you get into the latter stages of the draft. Regardless of who they draft, I think pick #30 is worth the value that Blair holds.
Coonfirmed here.
Spurs very actively shopping Blair.
Rumors they are aiming at the Greek guy of Olimpiakos.
Any links?Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin
Well Bonner has been heavily scouted as a playoff choker. Surely this news has reached even the most incompetent GMs. He has no value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy Watson
Which is a shame, if Bonner had a neutral reputation, we may have been able to swing him for a late first round to a team looking to bolster their roster.
kostas papanikolaou?Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin
This is probably true, as their supposed intent is to create roster space (which leads me to believe they think they've got a real chance at re-signing Diaw and signing Lorbek . . . which would give them the most non athletic group of bigs in the league).Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin
But if (and it's a big if), Sullinger or P. Jones fall to 30, they'd be insane to pass either up. Both have been red flagged though, so there's an outside chance one falls to 30. Although at that point, the Warriors may well just keep the pick and select whichever falls.
Likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
No link.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
A friend, agent of players.
Maybe they are looking to get the 35 from GSW?Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin