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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
sehui
Ive seen some of his highlights from the 2011 euroleague.
He definitely has the physique, looks like he has a solid passing skillset at 6'5.
Ball handling looks a little iffy, but we'll see and he is 6'5. From what I saw, this dude has like barely any athleticism, and his vertical isn't anything to brag about.
His driving in game looks interesting, he kind has a manu esque type of skillset, utilizing the eurostep and driving left and finishing (despite being right handed).
Hope someone who actually has seen him in full games can contribute more..I really hope this guy can be our solid backup PG who has strong ball security.
De colo did not play Euroleague basketball (top 32 teams in Europe).
Rather Eurocup, which could be equivalent to D league.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Knoxxx
Minimum Salary = De Colo, + some small piece of the MLE (possibly and if permitted)
I think we will not use the full MLE on either Lorbek or Diaw, but instead give one the BAE, then supplement with some of the MLE money.
No go on both.
Exceptions can be split to sign more than one player, but you can't combine parts of different exceptions in a single contract.
Extremely unlikely that De Colo signs for the minimum or that we can get either Diaw or Lorbek for the BAE.
Best case scenario is that they fit both De Colo and Diaw into the MLE and retain the BAE to go after a project big on the open market.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
Nando is a combo 1 and 2 now I think he is more a SG than a PG now considering SG athleticism in the nba I can see him spend some time at PG
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
And McDonald and Monroe with no news again :lol
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
donjuansdaddy
Parker and De Colo played alot together at the same time while playing with France at PG and SG and were very effective.
De Colo is a poor man's Manu Ginobli, that is the way I would describe him. He has a very good pull up jumper, can hit the open 3 ball, has really good ball handles, is a creative passer. Manu is quicker than De Colo but De Colo is pretty quick in his own right.
De Colo can guard at the NBA level as well. He has like a 6'7"+ wingspan with his 6'5" frame, which helps him stay in front of quicker guards in the Spanish league like Navarro and Llull.
I can't think of a more improbable comparison than De Colo-Ginobili.
When he went to the Spurs Ginobili was far and away the best player in Europe, in fact, Euroleague MVP, and a legend already.
De Colo didn't even play Euroleague basketball.
De Colo reminds a bit of a very very poor man Vinnie Del Negro.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Mel_13
No go on both.
Exceptions can be split to sign more than one player, but you can't combine parts of different exceptions in a single contract.
Extremely unlikely that De Colo signs for the minimum or that we can get either Diaw or Lorbek for the BAE.
Best case scenario is that they fit both De Colo and Diaw into the MLE and retain the BAE to go after a project big on the open market.
Either it's the minimum or he should get back to Europe where he would get far less than the minimum.
I don't know whether he will be good, but sure enough he is going to be cheap.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Spurs Brazil
And McDonald and Monroe with no news again :lol
:rolleyes
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
temujin
Either it's the minimum or he should get back to Europe where he would get far less than the minimum.
I don't know whether he will be good, but sure enough he is going to be cheap.
I hope you're right. It would give the Spurs much more flexibility.
btw- minimum 1st year salary for a second round draft pick is around 500K. Do you really think he would get far less than that if he stayed in Europe?
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
He almost reminds me of a craftier/smaller Mike Dunleavy. I still don't know his position in the NBA but I have to believe he will serve very much the same role as Neal.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Spurs Brazil
And McDonald and Monroe with no news again :lol
Why would they report anything? They cater to the average Spurs fan, not to spurstalk fanatics.
If you told the average Spurs fan that "Nando de Colo" was in San Antonio for a physical, the replies you would get would be:
- Como que "Nando De Colo"?
- Who (or what) the fuck is that?
- Why should I give a shit?
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Mel_13
I hope you're right. It would give the Spurs much more flexibility.
btw- minimum 1st year salary for a second round draft pick is around 500K. Do you really think he would get far less than that if he stayed in Europe?
I'd be very surprised if De Colo could sign for more than 0.3 M in Europe.
The guy is essentailly Euroleague untested and budgets are tight these days, except for Russian and Turkish teams. Which are largely covered at PG.
My information is that De Colo will sign for the Spurs for whatever they propose.
From the Spurs point of view, it's some sort of insurance for whatever happens with Mills.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
temujin
Either it's the minimum or he should get back to Europe where he would get far less than the minimum.
I don't know whether he will be good, but sure enough he is going to be cheap.
I don't keep up with the Euro-league but I was under the impression that they played fewer games than the 82 game NBA regular season. Might he make more money per game over there?
Not that I want him to stay over there.
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If he can give versatility, then I think this is a good prospect. If he's tall for a PG but can't cover anyone from lack of athleticism, then I'm curious if our recent draft pick might be just as good of an option even if he is shorter. Obviously, only time will tell.
From the comments above, it sounds like De Colo won't be in Summer League and would get a guaranteed contract...which with CoJo, Neal, possibly Mills hanging around, this doesn't give a lot of room for the new draft pick to get on the team.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
dylankerouac
I don't keep up with the Euro-league but I was under the impression that they played fewer games than the 82 game NBA regular season. Might he make more money per game over there?
Not that I want him to stay over there.
You end up playing some 50/60 games on a good team that reaches EL Top 16 and PO in the national tournments.
Honestly, I think De Colo would benefit from playing one year on a good EL team.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
temujin
I'd be very surprised if De Colo could sign for more than 0.3 M in Europe.
The guy is essentailly Euroleague untested and budgets are tight these days, except for Russian and Turkish teams. Which are largely covered at PG.
My information is that De Colo will sign for the Spurs for whatever they propose.
From the Spurs point of view, it's some sort of insurance for whatever happens with Mills.
That would be awesome for the Spurs.
You called Splitter's deal when most of us thought he would get much more.
Hope you're right again.
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I wouldn't classify De Colo as unathletic. He's not James White! but he's not a Kapano/Korver/Neal/RMJ type non-athlete. He can move.
Now is he athletic enough to be a point guard at 6-foot-5 in the NBA? That's tough to say because he'd have to be a really good athlete to pull it off.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Mel_13
That would be awesome for the Spurs.
You called Splitter's deal when most of us thought he would get much more.
Hope you're right again.
Good memory.
There were rumors here that Bo McCalebb was in talk with the Spurs.
Actually, he would have been my choice, and perfect for the Spurs system.
His coach then signed for Fenherbace and quickly called him up. He will sign in Turkey and I doubt for less than 2 M.
No way Spurs would match.
Hence De Colo.
I am also curious about the outcome of the Lorbek signing, bacause he did have an offer from CSKA.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
nando de colo could be next ricky rubio
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
Mel_13
That would be awesome for the Spurs.
You called Splitter's deal when most of us thought he would get much more.
Hope you're right again.
That's what gives me hope - even in the midst of bigs getting bad deals when Tiago came over, Spurs still came away with a great deal (even if he showed nothing - a player of his caliber usually gets more).
If De Colo is signed for a minimum contract, that would be another great value and it would really help (potentially because we don't know if the Bae will really help the Spurs land anyone they need/want) the Spurs to maximize their chances in FA.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
GB20
nando de colo could be next ricky rubio
He has already failed if that is your expectation :lol
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
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Originally Posted by
GB20
nando de colo could be next ricky rubio
Yeap, both have family names ending in o.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
So I will change my prediction:
De Colo = minimum
BAE = Diaw or Lorbek
MLE = partial to Diaw or Lorbek (whichever we can't get with the BAE)
We'll take Lorbek over Diaw, if it comes to that, to improve the team.
Is Diaw restricted, by the way? It would be nice to let the market confirm/deny his value, which is WAAAY below $9 million these days, IMO.
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
[QUOTE=DPG21920;6006872]He has already failed if that is your expectation :lol[/QUOTE
god said to have faith :lol
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Re: Nando De Colo in SA for Physical
So what would the Spurs be able to offer to LorbeK?