Ludden: Tim Duncan re-signs (3 years, $30M), Patty Mills re-signs, De Colo signs

RC on Duncan/Green, etc signing
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/120711_buford

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Originally Posted by rascal

The lakers have been run better than the Knicks over the years, proves that it is not only about the market size.

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the knicks have been run horrifically bad, so it's pointless to throw them into any comparison.

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Originally Posted by ace3g

RC on Duncan/Green, etc signing
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/120711_buford

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"as far as our big rotation... between tim, tiago, dejuan, matt, and hopefully bringing boris back, i'm not sure where our needs are there."

:depressed

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

"as far as our big rotation... between tim, tiago, dejuan, matt, and hopefully bringing boris back, i'm not sure where our needs are there."

:depressed

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HOLY SHIT!!!! :wow:wow:lmao:(:depressed

Wow. Sincerely hoping it's CIA RC speaking, but geez, either RC is trolling Spurs fans hard, or they actually think that last year's lineup was good enough.

What do you guys expect him to say? Improving the big situation will have to be accomplished by a minimum salary signing or by trading players from the bottom half of the roster.

He's not going to say anything that hurts the potential value of those players or that negatively affects his potential bargaining position. He also said he wants Blair to be part of the Spurs going forward and we had credible reports that Blair was shopped before the draft.

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

HOLY SHIT!!!! :wow:wow:lmao:(:depressed

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what are you implying?

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

What do you guys expect him to say? Improving the big situation will have to be accomplished by a minimum salary signing or by trading players from the bottom half of the roster.

He's not going to say anything that hurts the potential value of those players or that negatively affects his potential bargaining position. He also said he wants Blair to be part of the Spurs going forward and we had credible reports that Blair was shopped before the draft.

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i would expect for him to say we'd like to improve in that area. or at least that we'd try to.

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

i would expect for him to say we'd like to improve in that area. or at least that we'd try to.

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Then you haven't been paying attention to the information we've been getting directly from the Spurs FO for all these years.

Some news about Duncan new contract using the realgm trade tool.

Duncan new contract start at $9.63M. Depending on how his contract is structured (increasing, decreasing flat..), Duncan new contract is between $26.9M and $31.1M.

Thanks to Tim to have taken a very reasonable last deal. :tu

Green contract start at $3.5M. With the classical max raise, it confirms the $11.3M/3 years figure.

Regarding Spurs salary situation for 2012-2013:

Ginobili: $14.1M
Parker: $12.5M
Jackson: $10.1M
Duncan: $9.6M
Diaw: $4.5M
Splitter: $3.9M
Bonner: $3.6M
Green: $3.5M
Lenoard: $1.8M
De Colo: $1.4M
Mills: $1.1M
Joseph: $1.1M
Blair: $1.1M
Neal: $0.9M

So a total of $69.2M for 14 players. Spurs should have no problem staying below the tax. The apron isn't a concern.

That roster produced the equivalent of 62 wins in a regular season - and only costs half as much as the superteams. :downspin:

You forgot De Colo. $1.4M for this year, right? Still, $69.2M is enough below the tax to sign someone like Denmon to a Neal or Blair type deal.

I'm also not sure this is the roster going into training camp.

Duncan/Parker/Ginobili/Leonard/Diaw/Splitter/Jackson/Green are the locks.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

You forgot De Colo. $1.4M for this year, right? Still, $69.2M is enough below the tax to sign someone like Denmon to a Neal or Blair type deal.

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Oops, thanks.

Yeah, it's enough to stay below the tax.

I would add De Colo and Mills to the lock list because they were just signed. I don't think they can be traded until January 15.

In order, I would rank "most likely not to be a Spur by training camp" as Neal, Blair, Joseph, Bonner. Neal and Blair are the easiest to move, and having 7 guards under contract makes me think one of them would be the first to go.

If the Spurs sign a min. big like Kenyon Martin, Blair will probably get salary-dumped. Martin would actually push the Spurs slightly into the tax, and max the roster at 15, so the likelihood of a salary dump would go up. Unfortunately, trading Neal or Blair is more likely than amnesthizing (great word) Bonner.

Add Byars.
Still good.

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Originally Posted by Drom John

Add Byars.
Still good.

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I haven't added him on purpose. His contract is fully unguaranteed. Baring a Green-like miracle, he will be cut at the end of the training camp and will cost nothing to Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Some news about Duncan new contract using the realgm trade tool.

Duncan new contract start at $9.63M. Depending on how his contract is structured (increasing, decreasing flat..), Duncan new contract is between $26.9M and $31.1M.

Thanks to Tim to have took a very reasonable last deal. :tu

Green contract start at $3.5M. With the classical max raise, it confirmes the $11.3M/3 years figure.

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So Bruno, the realgm numbers are reliable?


And yeah, there aren't many superstar, franchise players who would willingly accept the 4th highest salary on the roster.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Some news about Duncan new contract using the realgm trade tool.

Duncan new contract start at $9.63M. Depending on how his contract is structured (increasing, decreasing flat..), Duncan new contract is between $26.9M and $31.1M.

Thanks to Tim to have took a very reasonable last deal. :tu

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Wow. Duncan took such little money that Holt doesn't even have to pay tax this year -- much less be concerned about the hard cap. I wonder if the FO was told they couldn't be a tax team this year or that was a strategic move to avoid becoming a repeater. Either way, props to Duncan and great find by Bruno.

And yeah, Duncan agreeing to become the team's fourth highest paid player shows his ego-less nature even more. Add in interest rate and ignore the option year and Duncan actually took less money than David Robinson's final deal.

You'd think Duncan would want the real contract figures to hit the press but that just further shows he doesn't care what anybody thinks -- good or bad.

So if spurs are under the cap, as the numbers stand now, can we throw offers at amnestied players?

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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded

So if spurs are under the cap, as the numbers stand now, can we throw offers at amnestied players?

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They're under the tax threshold, but they're way over the cap.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

So Bruno, the realgm numbers are reliable?

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Yes, they are.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Yes, they are.

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Thanks. Good to know since they update their lists more quickly than sham.

Yeah, historically RealGM has been the most accurate. They must have a direct connection to the NBA. Even ESPN Trade Machine is more often wrong.

10 mil a year for a legend still playing at a great level is a steal.