Lol good one. Phil actually got some development out of his stars. Spo just "inspired" them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRHornet45
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Lol good one. Phil actually got some development out of his stars. Spo just "inspired" them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRHornet45
Chuck Daly, George KarlQuote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Spo has a good start, but a LONG way to go to make the top 10 in this point system. No one on the list coached less than 16 seasons, and all had 20 or more except Pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRHornet45
Spo has been coach 4 years, that's it. He has racked up 450 some points.
Coaches with .500+ records.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Sorry, but Daly and Karl scored fewer points in the point system. They were close, but no cigar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
:hat
What if you have to coach teams with bad players?Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
:bang
Your point system is a joke, B.... :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
You show us a better point system, Einstein. My system was carefully formulated by mathematicians, scientists, and pother experts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
:lmao
Hey Galileo, use this points system and see what happens:
regular season win = 1 point
playoff appearance = 20 points
division title = 30 points
#1 seed in conference = 40 points
#1 seed in NBA = 50 points
playoff wins = 5 points
conference title = 100 points
NBA title = 200 points
Hey Galileo, use this points system and see what happens:
regular season win = 1 point
playoff appearance = 20 points
division title = 30 points
#1 seed in conference = 40 points
#1 seed in NBA = 50 points
playoff wins = 5 points
conference title = 100 points
NBA title = 200 points
not a good system, too much emphasis on playoffs. Not enough credit for coaches who slog it out for many decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggems
:rollin
The OP should say "Coaches with the best win record"
It's hard to know who the best coaches are, but one good way to measure is by the production of those they've coached. What did they go on to do after receiving this coaching?
Like Olajuwon and Bird?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Parker a superstar ?Quote:
Originally Posted by racm
:lmao
So, hypothetically speaking, a coach that goes 30-52 every year for 30 years is automatically a better coach than a coach that coaches for 3 years, wins 65 games a year, wins 2 titles, then retires?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Honestly, I think a better system than the one you listed would be the same exact point system, divided by years. The idea that a mediocre coach that coaches for long enough is automatically a good coach is an abomination.
Larry Brown over all of them, Pop under that, then the others with stacked teams.
Larry took the fucking Pistons to the Finals and beat the shit out of one of the most stacked teams since the Dream Team, with basically nobody. He took the 76ers to the Finals with only AI being notable. He's coached teams to much better records than they've had before.
Pop was handed Dave and Tim, granted, but his coaching staff and front office, and himself as president of basketball operations and head coach, have annually built and fielded the winningest team in any professional sport though a decade. Bringing people like Manu and Tony along for 10 years and maintaining their respect and their desire to remain with the team, all the while building around them with pieces that compliment the big 3 (Bonner not withstanding), Pop has to be up there in the top 3 coaches of all time in terms of pure coaching, pure player/coach relationship quality.
Phil was a manager of personalities, whatever that means. Had Phil worked with his team for a few years and finally gotten over the hump, that's one thing, but Jordan wrote Phil's ticket for the rest of his life by association. The Bulls wanted to shit can Phil but Mike said "He goes I go". I admire that in Phil, but the Bulls knew that Phil wasn't the reason for the wins. Pop hasn't gotten the same treatment from the Spurs.
When you get your face on the front of NBA Live, you're a superstar.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
:lol nba liveQuote:
Originally Posted by DMC
"Phil was a manager of personalities"
"Phil helped them all get along"
blah blah blah
sons Phil Jackson was nothing more than a glorified babysitter when you really think about it.
"glorified babysitter" can be the description of 80% of the NBA's head coaches. Doc Rivers is considered a great coach and he does is say "Hustle! Defense!"
yea but when you're handed the likes of Michael Jordan and Shaq along with solid role players like Scottie Pippen, Pau Gasol, Kobe Bryant, etc. ... I'm sure its sooooo tough!!! all you have to do is make sure they somewhat get along on the court and show up on time.
Also : " Rondo ! You can do it ! "Quote:
Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE
How many titles did Rivers win before KG and Allen came to Boston again?
putting him up there would be an insult to the other coaches on the list. philibeaner never did nothing to help this team or to make the team better, and our success this year should be owed to bron's personal efforts only tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by BRHornet45
Any point system should also dock some points for losses.
Division titles also are a worthless barometer, imo