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It was unrealistic to get both Howard and Williams. Getting Kamaan, Brand, Mayo and Collison is a damn productive offseason. And only lost Terry and Kidd. They got much better in my view.
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Russo21
It was unrealistic to get both Howard and Williams. Getting Kamaan, Brand, Mayo and Collison is a damn productive offseason. And only lost Terry and Kidd. They got much better in my view.
MUCH BETTER? They did get better yes, but if you go much better might as well add losing Butler, Chandler, Barrea and Stevenson etc. Now add up that title team to this one? Is it a contender? I doubt it but yes they got better than last year, hard not to when you get swept in round one.
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5th-8th seed.
They will make the playoffs.
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Much better then last years team yes. I wasn't comparing it to the title team. They've done a very good job. Mayo is only 25, same with collison, kamman just hit 30 and Brand is 33 which isn't quite ancient.
Lost 2 old dudes in Kidd who is 39 and Terry who is 35. So they got younger, bigger and better then the 2012 team. Good job. Dammitt lol.
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Russo21
Much better then last years team yes. I wasn't comparing it to the title team. They've done a very good job. Mayo is only 25, same with collison, kamman just hit 30 and Brand is 33 which isn't quite ancient.
Lost 2 old dudes in Kidd who is 39 and Terry who is 35. So they got younger, bigger and better then the 2012 team. Good job. Dammitt lol.
Fuck Dallas until the end of times, period.............
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Mavs have build a nice supporting cast for Dirk but it is what it is: a supporting cast.
They will goo as far as a 34 years old Dirk can lead them. If he can play at a close MVP level, they will be very dangerous. Otherwise, they will lose in the first round like this year.
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Sean Cagney
Fuck Dallas until the end of times, period.............
:lol Amen to that mate :toast
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Buddy Holly
That was their goal. What they ended up with is comical in comparison.
The Mavs have upgraded their roster. Good moves by Dallas.
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The ADMIRAL 50
The question for Mavs fans is this:
Would you rather have had the same returning cast (CHANDLER, Barea, Stevenson and maybe even Butler) back to defend last year and moving forward, never getting the silly chance to swing and miss at Williams and Howard..
or
thrown away the chance to repeat and a season later end up with Mayo, Collison, Brand and Kaman.
Personally I would have chose the former.
Granted, hindsight is 20/20, but throwing away a shot to keep the team together and make another run has to sting for Mavsfan.
I agree. Blow up the title team if it doesn't work but you at least have to try to defend your title.
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Just like the Spurs in 04, tbh...
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BatManu20
Mavs had had a pretty good offseason after what appeared to be a disastrous one when they lost out on Deron Williams. They've added Mayo, Brand, Collison, and Kaman. What do you guys think of the move and where they'll probably seed in the playoffs?
Those are all just pieces, not really better than what SA re-signed.
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deibero
Mayo is the much better and complete player.
No he's not. Green is a better shooter and defender, what we need from our supporting cast. OJ has a better press agent that still has teams believing in that now almost unreachable ceiling. He's been in the league four years, and has regressed. He is what he is.
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Guys on one year contracts are not invested in your team. That can be the difference between a 4 seed and an 8 seed.
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6-10th seed, but this still keeps them as the leader in the Dwight Howard in 2013-2014 chase. With that "but," this was an excellent off-season for the Mavericks.
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The ADMIRAL 50
The question for Mavs fans is this:
Would you rather have had the same returning cast (CHANDLER, Barea, Stevenson and maybe even Butler) back to defend last year and moving forward, never getting the silly chance to swing and miss at Williams and Howard..
or
thrown away the chance to repeat and a season later end up with Mayo, Collison, Brand and Kaman.
Personally I would have chose the former.
Granted, hindsight is 20/20, but throwing away a shot to keep the team together and make another run has to sting for Mavsfan.
Obviously every Dallas fan wanted to keep the championship core and squeeze out as many titles as possible in the Dirk era.
Problem is that we would've most likely sucked for years after Dirk retired if we went this route. Personally, I wouldn't have minded but I have nothing to lose. When you put yourself in Cuban's shoes it's a much tougher decision businesswise. He can't just sit there and say "Let's try and win as many as possible and screw the future" when his job is on the line.
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Wild Cobra Kai
No he's not. Green is a better shooter and defender, what we need from our supporting cast. OJ has a better press agent that still has teams believing in that now almost unreachable ceiling. He's been in the league four years, and has regressed. He is what he is.
And to think this guy was drafted ahead of Westbrook and Love. At least Minny went with Love in the end.
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it was an asterisk title.
it won't be missed.
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Obstructed_View
FIFY. The west is fucking deep. Last year's Mavs were a 7 seed.
Get a fucking grip. The Mavs will have a full training camp and I'm sure Dirk will show up in shape and not in hangover mode. We're at least as good now as the Grizz, Clips and Nugs. Assuming relative health, Dallas will be in the playoffs, not the lottery, and has a ceiling of winning a series.
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Vic Petro
Why are you annoyed with Cubes? He's one of the best owners in sports. I'd want to have guys like him who are committed and passionate about winning.
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This reminds me of the Mavs of years past. Throw a lot of money around and try to get name players. Their title year they went away from that and got a team that was constructed to have role players and play defense. The thing is - this year's team is full of name players with question marks so it's probably more of a move to save face with the fans then expect to win. Cuban rolled the dice to get Deron and Howard. He probably should have kept Chandler, but he took a chance and it didn't work. This is making lemonade but it could have been much worse.
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Dr. John R. Brinkley
This reminds me of the Mavs of years past. Throw a lot of money around and try to get name players. Their title year they went away from that and got a team that was constructed to have role players and play defense. The thing is - this year's team is full of name players with question marks so it's probably more of a move to save face with the fans then expect to win. Cuban rolled the dice to get Deron and Howard. He probably should have kept Chandler, but he took a chance and it didn't work. This is making lemonade but it could have been much worse.
How are they throwing a lot of money around? Most of these guys are on one-year deals so they can try and acquire a superstar player next summer (won't work out then either, but they have retained cap flexibility).
They got Chandler by accident - they were hoping to use Dampier's expiring contract to land a premier FA in summer of 2010, didn't work out, so they thought they would kick the can down the road and fill a roster need by getting Chandler's expiring deal. Only they accidentally got the "missing piece" and center the franchise had been missing for 30 years. Chandler was NOT the targeted acquisition that summer. They were hoping to land a S'n'T for Bosh or LeBron (pipe dream). That said, they absolutely should have resigned him.
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Dr. John R. Brinkley
This reminds me of the Mavs of years past. Throw a lot of money around and try to get name players. Their title year they went away from that and got a team that was constructed to have role players and play defense. The thing is - this year's team is full of name players with question marks so it's probably more of a move to save face with the fans then expect to win. Cuban rolled the dice to get Deron and Howard. He probably should have kept Chandler, but he took a chance and it didn't work. This is making lemonade but it could have been much worse.
Actually it's the complete opposite of what they did in the past