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He would be a good pickup imo. But does anyone have a realistic scenario in which the Spurs are able to obtain him??? Nope. Didn't think so.
It's not unrealistic that nobody claims him, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21
We will know tomorrow at 5pm ET whether or not Blatche has been claimed from the amnesty waivers.
If no teams have claimed him, Pop should immediately call him. If Blatche is willing to do what it takes to be a true professional basketball player, then signing him is a no-brainer.
Nothing on the twitter feeds about Blatche yet.
Ya, strange, I have been searching all over for Blatche info, but nada. I just hope he was not claimed so the Spurs at least have a shot. I am skeptical he would choose to play with the Spurs even if a FA, but it has a lot of potential to help the Spurs.
Yeah usually around 4:05 - 4:10 p.m. CST someone would report something on the amnesty players.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
yea im thinking a bid may have come in at the last minute & thats what the delay of news is.
Yeah. And unlike a guy like Martin, given the fact that his reputation is at rock bottom, he probably wouldn't complain if he was the fifth big, which he more than likely would be next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
They should do what the Thunder did with Thabeet: sign him for two guaranteed years. Barring injury, Thabeet won't be in the rotation next season. But the following one, when they're likely to dispose of Perkins so as to free up more cap space to re-sign Harden and Ibaka, is when he should have a shot at a more prominent role.
The same logic applies here. Blatche could come in next season, play the good soldier role, begin to repair his reputation, learn the system, get the occasional game to strut his stuff (like when they give Duncan games off) and wait his turn. Then, the following season, the possibility exists that he could become the starting PF. It's unlikely, as Diaw will probably be back, but if they like what they see from him, I don't think there's any question they'd trade or waive Bonner's partially guaranteed contract. And it's not it's out of the question that he could wrestle the starting position away from Diaw, either.
Captain Blatche ego must be hurt after this.
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Not sure, from Manchester, if this is out: Just heard Andray Blatche has cleared waivers after amnesty by Wiz. Unrestricted free agent now
Yea buddy..
now next step, see which teams Woj and Spears say are interested
oh. Glad i was wrong.
YES :tu
Blatche could be a great addition to Spurs, better than K Mart or Scola.
Please, Spurs be interested. If I was his agent I would encourage him to sign with the Spurs for the betterment of himself and his career.
I wasn't totally on board with signing him for the minimum with all his red flags but I think Timmy, SJAX, and Pop can keep him in check.
You realize, though, that Pop will never play someone that brain dead ahead of Bonner, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
I really hope the Spurs show interest and that Blatche chooses the Spurs too. This could be a huge lucky break for the Spurs (there is also a chance it's not a chance or if it does happen, he sucks), and is about as good as you could hope for tbh.
wow. want; low risk, high reward.
how much can we realistically offer him?
Not sure many teams will be interested in this guy. Celtics and Spurs would be decent for both parties. Other that I can't think of a lot of teams that would show interest in a nutcase. All young teams should stay away.
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ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Not sure, from Manchester, if this is out: Just heard Andray Blatche has cleared waivers after amnesty by Wiz. Unrestricted free agent now
Future headline: "Heat sign Blatche"
Celtics, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Doubt the Spurs go after him, one nutcase, SJAX, is enough.
It's just a hunch, but I don't think they will. The thing they have going for them is that young teams, with cap space, who need bigs, aren't going to want Blatche around their young players more than likely. Although, you never know, one of them might take the chance; maybe they just didn't want to give him the 3 guaranteed years required to claim him. But I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
So who does that leave that needs a PF? The Heat need help at C more so than PF, but on their team, he'd have to play C anyway. The Hawks had interest in Randolph, so maybe them. Maybe the Celtics or the Lakers, figuring their veterans can keep him in line.
If that's true, Celtics have had one whale of an off-season on paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
My next thought. Do the Spurs have the money to sign Blatche??? As for his behavior issues, if anyone can reach Blatche I would think it would be Pop. Obviously he has a lot of natural talent and athleticism. We know he suffers from immaturity and focus. Do the Spurs make the call?
It's doubtful that any team offers him more than the minimum, so it's more about find the right match for player and team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaBigFundamental21
He'll still get the same amount though, right? More than the minimum just means the Wizards owe him less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
He cleared so waivers so the Wizards are going to pay him every penny of his previous contract. He's a free agent now and any new contract he signs is over and above what he'll get from Washington.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
blatche cleared fck id love him next to timmy 6'11 26 hell yes
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That's not exactly true:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q64
This rule is a good news for Spurs. Blatche should be less interested in getting more than the minimum salary because he will only get half of the extra money.
no thanks. he's uncoachable and a ball hog.
The rule only comes into effect if he signs for more than minimum. I'm assuming that's all he will get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
He's been on a shitty team with no structure or leadership his entire career. I'd give him a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
The way I understand the rule is that it applies if he signs for more than the 1 year vet salary ($762,195). Blatche is a 7 years vet so his min salary would be $1,146,337. Wizards will be able to reduce what they owe him by half the difference ($192,071).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
the only smart post in this entire thread. dude shot 38% from the field and he's a cancer. besides, his defense is worse than bonner's. he's a lazy, chucking fuck. check out his win shares and defensive stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
A PF who shoots 38% from the field and statistically plays worse defense than than Matt Bonner is going to save y'all :lol
Mavfans concerned enough to run upstairs.
Might have to rethink this.
Almost 70k shitty posts, congrats :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Mavfan trying to deflect with post count smack impotence.
Mind almost changed.
You're probably right, but it's extremely unlikely to have any effect on where Blatche signs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
So Blatche doesn't lose any money though, he's getting his full contract + what ever new contract too (money paid can only go up for Blatche, not down). Him losing half of the money still results in an increase to him from my understanding, correct?
Come to SA big guy.
naw sorry, he's nothing but trouble. dude got shot in a car jacking, our thug quota is already met with SJax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
we don't need this dude and his me-first mentality on the team. signing him would be as bad as the rodman signing.
He'll get more than his original salary. The amount he will "lose" is an amount equal to one half of the difference between his new contract amount and the one year vet minimum salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Sjax is a fine upstanding citizen on this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
If he didn't have issues we wouldn't have a chance at getting him. Might as well take the gamble. If he fucks up send him packing.
no doubt about SJax, the brawl in the palace aside, dude is an asset to the team and truly understands what it takes to be a teamate. blatche doesn't. he's what, 25/26 and still hasn't figured it out. its noone's fault but his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
can't keep making up excuses for guys like that. he doesn't fit in with the team, at all and the only thing he knows how to do is shoot. no thanks.
Its worth a shot, at this point the only way the Spurs can sign anyone is on a vet min contract anyways. Better it be someone like Blatche that isn't over 35 and is at a position of need. Worse case the Spurs take a gamble with minimum risk and it doesn't pay off.
As for him being a cancer in the locker-room. What impact could he really have in there? Does anyone really think that he is going to have any effect on the vets like Tim, Manu, Tony, Jax, Bonner, Diaw, ect? Leonard has already shown hes above that shit, in fact if Lebron had the work-ethic and focus Kawhi does, he would have had 3-4 rings by now without having to team up with Wade and Bosh. The kid is a beast and can guarantee that Blatche wouldn't be able to change that.
That leaves De Colo is going to follow Parker and Diaw. Then there is Blair who has shown himself to have his own problems without Blatche (Whataburger) and is gone after next season anyways. Splitter, who if he develops problems chances are its because of how Pop has treated/used him the past 2 seasons, and Neal who again pretty sure would be above that shit, but again given his defense chances are he isn't a Spurs after next season anyways. Besides if Blatche was fucking things up as far as chemistry, you sit him at the far end of the bench or just tell him to stop showing up until you can cut him.
Blatche is basically house money, same as Greg Oden, you take the gamble on vet minimums because if they don't work out then congratulations the Spurs are back to where they are right now. But if they do work out then you've got a chance to improve the Spurs with minimal risk.
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Splitter, who if he develops problems chances are its because of how Pop has treated/used him the past 2 seasons
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Blatche is basically house money, same as Greg Oden, you take the gamble on vet minimums because if they don't work out then congratulations the Spurs are back to where they are right now. But if they do work out then you've got a chance to improve the Spurs with minimal risk.
This makes too much sense for the Spurs to do it.:wow
It's not that he's going to poison other minds, it's that the Spurs don't like distractions or bad press. If they sign Blatche there's a pretty good risk that he shows up on the news for beating up a girlfriend or starting a fight in a strip club that led to a shooting, which is exactly the kind of bullshit the Spurs want nothing to do with. The Spurs want to be able to focus on their jobs, not on crap like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andthentherewas21
This is his fault?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
He was dealing drugs out of the car and rolling with 6 hookers ^
The guy needs to grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
He may just be scared shitless that his NBA career is over, if so, he might see his NBA revival via a team like the Spurs. One can only hope because a reformed Blatche would be an improvement for the Spurs, maybe the only one out there now or in the foreseeable future.
Normally I would agree with you if it wasn't for a certain french point guard that nearly lost his eye in a bar fight between two of the biggest pussy rappers of all time. Or got caught and subsequently divorced for sexting the wife of a former teammate. And then there was all that DUI stuff with R.C..Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
I like that the Spurs are a classy organization and want them to continue to be, but you don't pass-up a minimal risk/big reward opportunity at a position of need, just to save yourself a potential PR incident, especially given the past couple of years.
Moreover D.C. and SA are very different places, I'm not saying he would stop judging strip club contests just by being in SA, just saying they might be a little harder to find.
P.S. Plenty of people have been saying we need to go after Jordon Hill and hes been charged with felony assault for choking his girlfriend in Houston
The situation in SA is different from DC. Blatche was named opening day captain once, whereas in SA he'll be treated as the new guy. Jax was an old friend returning, Diaw's a buddy of Parker, and then everyone else has gotten the new guy treatment.
And Tony and R.C. are integral parts of the team. I'm sure it pissed some people with the team off, but you work past some things with an All-Star that you don't want to put up with for a guy who got cut from a shitty lottery team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andthentherewas21
Exactly, I'm not saying give the guy free reign to do what he wants. Try to get him with the vet min. and if he doesn't work out either on or off the court, you put him at the end of the bench or tell him not to show up until you cut him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
Even after all that said I still take him over the ginger lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
He's 26 and the alpha dog in the locker room basically his whole career was Gilbert Arenas. Even among big men he had that asshole Brendan Haywood to look up to. Clearly there are red flags with Blatche but in no way is he doomed to be a dick and/or selfish player his whole life. Some structure might help. If not, you're only out the minimum. It's a no brainer.
Considering his coach was Flip Saunders and his teammate was Gilbert Arenas, I would like to see Spurs give him a shot.
What if it was all the way changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Jack ain't no nutcase, he's a case of nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by xmas1997
Give me some Blatche.
There is just no comparison between SJax and Blatche.. The former is a championship winner, someone who performs under pressure and an ultimate team-man who is however edgy and had some off-the-court issues.
The latter is an immature buffoon who has forever played in a losing franchise, been out of shape more than often, has been a selfish player, and a crass asshole off the court.
SJax is a winner with off court issues, Blatche is a loser with off court issues.
The only thing that Blatche has going for him is potential. If the Spurs think they need to take someone on the basis of it, they can take a chance. But I would pass.
i'm surprised there's some people who wouldn't want to at least give him a shot.
it's not like we're talking a trade. and the contract probably wouldn't be expensive.
whoever here doesn't want blatche... if it were between him and blair/bonner, you would prefer the latter? why?
That's what I don't get. Its a no-lose situation. If he performs then you've improved the team, if he doesn't its a minimum contract that is probably going to be given to a D-league scrub who isn't going to play anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
If he plays too selfish or has off court problems and can't clean up his shit while hes with the Spurs then they can Odom his ass and tell him not to show up. But the alternative is you go with what you've got which, at this point, is regular season 3 point shooting PF that chokes like clockwork come April, and a "6'7" center with a history of weight issues, no ACLs, and who now has his own issues after getting benched for 2 straight postseasons. And while I like Diaw, the big FO plan this off-season is to make a guy who has always been passive and more of a facilitator on offense, more aggressive.
^^
Maybe the Spurs don't view it as an "IF" kind of situation. I'm sure they heavily profile the players they think they might want to bring in, and weed out those that are almost certain to fail in this system.
As for the comparisons to Jack, he can be a mess off the court, but the one thing he has always had was an abiding passion for the game. Blatche is just kind of a mess everywhere.
Another thought: no one claimed him. There was no unguaranteed portion of his contract to make up. A straight minimum salary claim puts you at the front of the line, and every team with remaining cap room passed.
No brainer. The guy has talked like he wants to do well. As long as he doesn't hang out with Tony Parker's friends he should be okay.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ASyW_blog.htmlQuote:
Blatche’s agent, Andy Miller, said he doesn’t expect teams to make a serious push for his client’s services until the conclusion of summer league
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Probably will be the case concerning Spurs interest in most PF/C, we will have to wait till after SL.
Teams mighty wait too to see if players like Leuer or Gomes will clear waivers today.
Ouch... that's a hit to the ego.
Agent- Well... Blatche, teams are going to wait till summer league is over to see if they want your services for the minimum.
Blatche- But...but... I was the team captain. The Summer league is full of scrubs...Oh!
blatche has the potential to be the best big man duncan has played with since robinson.
That line should be retired from ST.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
it's too bad duncan hasn't had better help.
the rockets got the 18th pick for budinger... i think the spurs could've gotten the 14th and selected john henson. but i digress... what's done is done.
for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
preferably splitter (serviceable big) and blair (hustle player, small contract) or bonner (can spread the floor). i would've thrown in the 59th pick if need be.
idk... i just feel if budinger could fetch the 18th, maybe that combo could get us the 14th.
but it's all moot anyways.
They already had Dalembert, Udoh, Ilyasova, and Sanders.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
truthfully, i hadn't looked into what positions they needed, or wanted. but even with them, they still selected another big man.
it's sucks, i've never liked the bucks, now i have to a little bit. i can't stand their jerseys/colors.
Right, they took a big man that they will control on a cheap rookie contract for the next 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
yeah, you're right. i guess i let being a fan get in the way of logic. i at least feel better about not having him.
Spurs should not be waiting IMO....
Patience has almost always served them well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Almost no one on this forum should ever play poker.
Too Christmas, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
Impatience results in flipping Lou Williams and Elton Brand into Nick Young and Kwame Brown. :downspin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
Christmas Deer as PtR puts it, IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanzamillion21
Blatche would be so money here, too bad its likely not gonna happen.
Blatche would fail here. At this point, he's a deer. He can run and jump, but he really isn't much of a basketball player.Quote:
Originally Posted by widowmaker
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
fck it ill take potential over bonner/blair fck it it realy cant get worse
For real!! Cant get worst than those 2 clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by slick'81
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
No one really knows if he will fail if hes given a chance no one really knows what he can bring to the table. And I really do belive it's well worth the risk. Hurry up before Dallas snatches him up lol
lets see who would be better at the same price. a starting quality big with a bad past VS a summer league big who would be lucky if he was asked to suit up for the game. sorry but the reward is greater than the risk with Blatche.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
You guys don't understand anything about the Spurs at all. They don't sign idiots, even if talented. Ever. Really. No foolin'.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
no doubt dont think spurs would mess with their chemistry by adding a 6'11 drug dealing buffoon
I understand they only go after professional players, but if they are too take a gamble on a player then blatche is the guy. look at how much McGee changed once he was taken under George Karl.