Sjax is a fine upstanding citizen on this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
If he didn't have issues we wouldn't have a chance at getting him. Might as well take the gamble. If he fucks up send him packing.
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Sjax is a fine upstanding citizen on this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
If he didn't have issues we wouldn't have a chance at getting him. Might as well take the gamble. If he fucks up send him packing.
no doubt about SJax, the brawl in the palace aside, dude is an asset to the team and truly understands what it takes to be a teamate. blatche doesn't. he's what, 25/26 and still hasn't figured it out. its noone's fault but his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
can't keep making up excuses for guys like that. he doesn't fit in with the team, at all and the only thing he knows how to do is shoot. no thanks.
Its worth a shot, at this point the only way the Spurs can sign anyone is on a vet min contract anyways. Better it be someone like Blatche that isn't over 35 and is at a position of need. Worse case the Spurs take a gamble with minimum risk and it doesn't pay off.
As for him being a cancer in the locker-room. What impact could he really have in there? Does anyone really think that he is going to have any effect on the vets like Tim, Manu, Tony, Jax, Bonner, Diaw, ect? Leonard has already shown hes above that shit, in fact if Lebron had the work-ethic and focus Kawhi does, he would have had 3-4 rings by now without having to team up with Wade and Bosh. The kid is a beast and can guarantee that Blatche wouldn't be able to change that.
That leaves De Colo is going to follow Parker and Diaw. Then there is Blair who has shown himself to have his own problems without Blatche (Whataburger) and is gone after next season anyways. Splitter, who if he develops problems chances are its because of how Pop has treated/used him the past 2 seasons, and Neal who again pretty sure would be above that shit, but again given his defense chances are he isn't a Spurs after next season anyways. Besides if Blatche was fucking things up as far as chemistry, you sit him at the far end of the bench or just tell him to stop showing up until you can cut him.
Blatche is basically house money, same as Greg Oden, you take the gamble on vet minimums because if they don't work out then congratulations the Spurs are back to where they are right now. But if they do work out then you've got a chance to improve the Spurs with minimal risk.
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Splitter, who if he develops problems chances are its because of how Pop has treated/used him the past 2 seasons
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Blatche is basically house money, same as Greg Oden, you take the gamble on vet minimums because if they don't work out then congratulations the Spurs are back to where they are right now. But if they do work out then you've got a chance to improve the Spurs with minimal risk.
This makes too much sense for the Spurs to do it.:wow
It's not that he's going to poison other minds, it's that the Spurs don't like distractions or bad press. If they sign Blatche there's a pretty good risk that he shows up on the news for beating up a girlfriend or starting a fight in a strip club that led to a shooting, which is exactly the kind of bullshit the Spurs want nothing to do with. The Spurs want to be able to focus on their jobs, not on crap like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andthentherewas21
This is his fault?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
He was dealing drugs out of the car and rolling with 6 hookers ^
The guy needs to grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
He may just be scared shitless that his NBA career is over, if so, he might see his NBA revival via a team like the Spurs. One can only hope because a reformed Blatche would be an improvement for the Spurs, maybe the only one out there now or in the foreseeable future.
Normally I would agree with you if it wasn't for a certain french point guard that nearly lost his eye in a bar fight between two of the biggest pussy rappers of all time. Or got caught and subsequently divorced for sexting the wife of a former teammate. And then there was all that DUI stuff with R.C..Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
I like that the Spurs are a classy organization and want them to continue to be, but you don't pass-up a minimal risk/big reward opportunity at a position of need, just to save yourself a potential PR incident, especially given the past couple of years.
Moreover D.C. and SA are very different places, I'm not saying he would stop judging strip club contests just by being in SA, just saying they might be a little harder to find.
P.S. Plenty of people have been saying we need to go after Jordon Hill and hes been charged with felony assault for choking his girlfriend in Houston
The situation in SA is different from DC. Blatche was named opening day captain once, whereas in SA he'll be treated as the new guy. Jax was an old friend returning, Diaw's a buddy of Parker, and then everyone else has gotten the new guy treatment.
And Tony and R.C. are integral parts of the team. I'm sure it pissed some people with the team off, but you work past some things with an All-Star that you don't want to put up with for a guy who got cut from a shitty lottery team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andthentherewas21
Exactly, I'm not saying give the guy free reign to do what he wants. Try to get him with the vet min. and if he doesn't work out either on or off the court, you put him at the end of the bench or tell him not to show up until you cut him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
Even after all that said I still take him over the ginger lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
He's 26 and the alpha dog in the locker room basically his whole career was Gilbert Arenas. Even among big men he had that asshole Brendan Haywood to look up to. Clearly there are red flags with Blatche but in no way is he doomed to be a dick and/or selfish player his whole life. Some structure might help. If not, you're only out the minimum. It's a no brainer.
Considering his coach was Flip Saunders and his teammate was Gilbert Arenas, I would like to see Spurs give him a shot.
What if it was all the way changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Jack ain't no nutcase, he's a case of nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by xmas1997
Give me some Blatche.
There is just no comparison between SJax and Blatche.. The former is a championship winner, someone who performs under pressure and an ultimate team-man who is however edgy and had some off-the-court issues.
The latter is an immature buffoon who has forever played in a losing franchise, been out of shape more than often, has been a selfish player, and a crass asshole off the court.
SJax is a winner with off court issues, Blatche is a loser with off court issues.
The only thing that Blatche has going for him is potential. If the Spurs think they need to take someone on the basis of it, they can take a chance. But I would pass.
i'm surprised there's some people who wouldn't want to at least give him a shot.
it's not like we're talking a trade. and the contract probably wouldn't be expensive.
whoever here doesn't want blatche... if it were between him and blair/bonner, you would prefer the latter? why?
That's what I don't get. Its a no-lose situation. If he performs then you've improved the team, if he doesn't its a minimum contract that is probably going to be given to a D-league scrub who isn't going to play anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by gambit1990
If he plays too selfish or has off court problems and can't clean up his shit while hes with the Spurs then they can Odom his ass and tell him not to show up. But the alternative is you go with what you've got which, at this point, is regular season 3 point shooting PF that chokes like clockwork come April, and a "6'7" center with a history of weight issues, no ACLs, and who now has his own issues after getting benched for 2 straight postseasons. And while I like Diaw, the big FO plan this off-season is to make a guy who has always been passive and more of a facilitator on offense, more aggressive.
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Maybe the Spurs don't view it as an "IF" kind of situation. I'm sure they heavily profile the players they think they might want to bring in, and weed out those that are almost certain to fail in this system.
As for the comparisons to Jack, he can be a mess off the court, but the one thing he has always had was an abiding passion for the game. Blatche is just kind of a mess everywhere.
Another thought: no one claimed him. There was no unguaranteed portion of his contract to make up. A straight minimum salary claim puts you at the front of the line, and every team with remaining cap room passed.
No brainer. The guy has talked like he wants to do well. As long as he doesn't hang out with Tony Parker's friends he should be okay.