http://www.catch-and-shoot.com/liven...s-chalon/2012/
Chalon, a french team that will play the Euroleague is in contract with Denmon. He is their first target.
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http://www.catch-and-shoot.com/liven...s-chalon/2012/
Chalon, a french team that will play the Euroleague is in contract with Denmon. He is their first target.
That'd be great. French league is about the right level for Denmon. I hope they play him at point guard.
Denmon would be smart to sign with that team instead of forcing the Spurs to bring him to camp like Jack McClinton did. He, like McClinton, has a 0% chance of making the Spurs this season.
Nice. I haven't read anything about any falling out with the team, so maybe he took their advice and he's just getting some point guard skills overseas. You know anything about that, Bruno? Will he, in fact, be playing Point?
Awesome. This is exactly what I wanted the whole way through!
He will primarily play SG. He might get some minutes at PG when the starting PG will be on the bench but the bulk of his minutes will be at the SG spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interrohater
Good for him. I dont see the need to put him on the roster when Parker, Mills, De Colo, and now Joseph are there already.
Yeah get Denmon out of here he needs at least two years before he'll be Spurs caliber especially for the highly competitive position of point guard.
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Originally Posted by Bruno
I was wondering if this was the team that TP is connected with? That would seem a natural fit if he goes to France since I think TP has them using much of the Spurs systems.
No, it's not. TP's team is called L'ASVEL or Villeurbanne.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
Can someone explain to me why draft someone who's not NBA ready now? Just send them overseas!
How many NBA ready players were there at 59?Quote:
Originally Posted by jermaine
Jack McClinton.....now there is a name I'd completely forgotten,Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Yeah. Manu took three years in Euro before he became a Spur.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
Kings was so lucky last season with Isiah Thomas (60th Pick).
NBA players in the late second round are a rarity. It's worth noting guys like Green and Mills were drafted in the 40s-50s, and even they struggled to get into the rotation until the Spurs got them.
For this simple reason Manu may be one of the top 3 draft steals of all time. You don't find a rotation player at that point, let alone a Sixth Man of the Year, a two-time All-Star, and a two-time All-NBA selection.
Does this team play in Eurocup or Eurochallenge? Or only French league?
They were in pro A playoff semi finals, thus going to eurocup
They will play the Euroleague. They won the French league last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by smaka
Wish him luck if he goes to France. Hopefully he gets to play a lot and improves in Europe.
Yep. This would an excellent place for Denmon to develop his game against top competition. Great find. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
The latest:
http://www.catch-and-shoot.com/liven...n-chalon/2012/
http://basketactu.com/malcolm-delaney-quitte-chalon/
So:
Malcolm Delaney (Chalon last year SG) has officially said that he won't be back with them this season. Chalon will sign a player to replace him and Denmon in the frontrunner. In addition of their coach liking him, part of Chalon reasoning is "he should be good since Spurs have drafted him".
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Originally Posted by Bruno
Denmon is basically a Malcolm Delaney clone. Had a lot of success in college but it will be tough to make the NBA due to being short for a shooting guard at 6-foot-3. Last I saw Delaney, he was even skinnier than Denmon.
Looking at Delaney's stats on Chalon, even though he was technically the shooting guard, he handled the ball enough to average 3.2 assists. If Denmon can play a role that allows him to be a playmaking shooting guard (like Delaney, apparently), that's probably the best way to start the transition to point guard.
A reason why Delaney's assists numbers are high is because, when the staring PG (Steed Tchicamboud) was on the bench, Delaney was playing PG. Maybe this year Chalon will sign a true backup PG to face the euroleague, but if they don't, Denmon will have 10/12 mpg at the PG spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Other than that, from what I've seen of Denmon in SL, he is quite similar to Delaney. Chalon could be a good place for Denmon. They have a good experienced coach and he could be their second offensive option.
You can remove the question mark from the title. Denmon has officially signed with Chalon:
http://www.elanchalon.fr/accueil/news/564
Some tidbits form the official signing release:
- Chalon is calling Denmon a combo guard which hint that he will play too the backup PG minutes. Chalon's owner is saying too that they wanted a player similar to Malcom Delaney. He is too saying that some teams in europe wanted him after his SL performance and that he is sure Denmon will become one of the main player of the French league and the Euroleague.
- Denmon quote about his signing: "I'm very happy to sign with Chalon. It's a great opportunity for me to play at the highest level in Europe, that is to say the Euroleague, coming straight from college. I know that I need to improve a lot before going to the NBA and I know I've made the right choice."
So Spurs retain his rights - correct?
I still like the pick, think he's got a chance to develop into a gary neal type, with more willingness to get after it defensively. Of course, it took Gary Neal a few years over seas to develop into a Gary Neal type.
The San Antonio Spurs are the definitive masters of the draft-and-stash tactic, and they do it again.
If the kid shines overseas the Spurs should consider bringing him back over.
Who cares. He's typical late 2nd round garbage..
i forgot all about Delaney. dude was cold at VaTech just scrawny.
Happy that Denmon didn't pull a McClinton and realized he was not ready for the NBA. Hopefully he improves and SA can bring him back in a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
This sure looks promising for the future. Good of Denmon to continue to improve and accept the reality of his current skill set.
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Originally Posted by Bruno
There's a lot of good news is that. Denmon playing any amount of point guard will be helpful, especially considering he played small forward a lot of the time in college. He needs to start that transition ASAP and it sounds like that will start happening.
It's also good that Denmon realizes his shortcomings. Most college stars are very reluctant to admit when they aren't good enough for the NBA and hesitate to sign overseas. Denmon seems to have a good attitude and is ready to improve.
And for the Spurs, a hardworking, talented player on a Euroleague team who is stepping into a defined role is a good pick at 59. He'll probably never make it to the NBA but this scenario gives him a decent chance as long as he embraces the opportunity. He showed enough flashes of PG ability in summer league that it's not impossible that he's able to remodel his game.
Agreed. This makes his selection at 59 that much better.
Do you know if the Spurs helped him get on a European team or was it all his agent? If it was the Spurs, then it paid off being drafted by San Antonio, a team that has contacts overseas and can open doors for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
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Originally Posted by timvp
I don't know if he can overcome his lack of physical tools, but definitely sounds like Spurs material in every other respect.
including his lack of physical tools.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesseractive
I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libri
The agent working in France for Denmon's agency has said "Spurs are very involved and have been consulted about Marcus' choice because they took him in the second round." http://basketactu.com/marcus-denmon-...aney-a-chalon/
It sounds like Denmon's agent find the team and Spurs liked this pick.
Now, being drafted by Spurs pays off if you want to play overseas. Spurs have a tremendous reputation in Europe as a high quality franchise. Being drafted by Spurs is a quality stamp for teams in Europe: if Spurs, that has a great front office, like him, then he should be good.
Holy shit, you Greek goatfucker are back! :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Manu_Forever
:lol Greece
:lol poor
:lol pedos
:lol goat fuckers
Greeks perfected the art of fucking a goat at the edge of a cliff so the goat will push back.
It could be benefitial to the Spurs and to Denmon. He gets some experience in Euro style basketball which is more of the Spurs run identity and we move forward with the guards that we have in camp.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6053/newspapero.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Manu_Forever
That's pretty bad, not even a #59 pick wants to play for us?...Oh well seeing him in Summer League showed me he isn't yet ready for the NBA...
Not pretty bad. Blair I think was the last time who is 2nd Rounder (37th Pick) who played for us when he was drafted in the same year. And besides Blair, who was the last one? Or above 40th Pick to the 60th Pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursnatic
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Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
Damn that article is funny.....:rollin
This is absolutely correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
There are many NBA franchises which are the opposite: If <insert name> picked him, there must be something fishy.
Good move by Denmon, probabl told by the Spurs FO. The level is perfect for him, for the time being. And he gets the chance to show his skills to better Euroleague teams first hand.
I think the Spurs FO started drafting and stashing American players before everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin
Greg Beugnot, Chalon's coahc, talked about the Denmon signing:
http://basketactu.com/gregor-beugnot...la-figuration/
"Denmon is a little a mix between Marquez Haynes and Malcolm Delaney, the two previous players I had at that spot. On top of that, Spurs own his rights since they've drafted him in the second round. Spurs didn't want to let him go, they wanted to keep him under their wings. Since I liked the player and since I have the reputation in the USA of being a coach that is a good teacher for the Euro rookies, we've quickly reached an agreement with Spurs. So it's a perfect agreement for his career growth between Spurs, Chalon and his agents. He comes to work very hard, he is a true very effective SG that we had to turn into a PG. I need to have a PG for 10-15mpg behind Steed Tchicamboud since I have no one else to take that spot. The deal works for everybody and I love the player. Saying that, it's not because I love the player that he will have a good season. He needs to make the transition to the European game, to fit with the team and so on. However, I really think he has all the qualities to bring a little more than what Malcolm Delaney, who has had a very good season, brought us last season. He is a fearless player that is strong and explosive like Marquez Haynes and that is a better shooter than Malcolm Delaney. Al in all I don't think I've made a bad pick at all. And everybody knows, that when Spurs draft a player, it's because they want to have him with their team one day or another. Most of the time, they draft a complete player and I think they haven't made a mistake with this pick."