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I just made this post...
...on page three of this thread.Quote:
The proof that they were faked is crushing. Check out the proof.Quote:
I don't think they were
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...ed-studio.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...ly-studio.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...-ever-lie.html
As of now it's post #24. Let's see what the shill moderator does.
The post is still there. I just made another one.
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The viewers can judge for themselves.Quote:
Off topic crap about how I show the Chinese Spacewalk to be real?
http://www.politicalforum.com/showth...post1064028979
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You have the attitude that you debunked the flag anomaly theory but you haven't.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...ly-studio.html
The viewers can judge for themselves.
As of now that's post #27 of this thread.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...-ever-lie.html
Let's see what the moderator does.
No matter how lame Betamax's arguments are he claims to have debunked everything and starts doing the victory dance. What do you do with Black Knights who won't admit defeat and go away?
Monty Python-The Black Knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
I didn't see that new thread in time to put the info on page one. Now it's a game in which the shills try to bury the proof I post to reduce the number of viewers who see it and I keep reposting it to thwart them. The moderators at the forum will help them out by deleting my posts.
I doubt the moderator is going to take any action against me on this thread...
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...-11-truth.html
...but I want a few people to see it in case he does. My username is Scott on that thread.
So far my posts are number's 3, 5, 7, 11, 14, 16, and 18.
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I had a feeling that the moderator would do something. Here's the warning I just got.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...post1064456061
The pro-official version poster keeps refusing to answer my question so I keep asking him to do so. Instead of telling the pro-official version poster to answer the question, he makes it more difficult for me to ask the question and easier for the pro-official version poster to bury the issue.Quote:
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http://images.debatepolitics.com/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Scotthttp://images.debatepolitics.com/but...post-right.pngThe [COLOR=#009900 !important]video manipulation is [COLOR=#009900 !important]evidence[/COLOR] that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. If you think there's no manipulation in the footage, tell us why. A sincere truth-seeker wouldn't try to [COLOR=#009900 !important]avoid[/COLOR] this issue. It's pretty serious evidence.
If you thought it was a lie, you'd [COLOR=#009900 !important]address[/COLOR] it directly. Please address it directly.
September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
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(2:13:35 time mark)
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Moderator's Warning: http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/mod.gifYou've posted the link to this video many times in the thread already. Cut it out.
An objective moderator would have either not entered the discussion, or told the pro-official version poster to answer the question. That used to be a place where there was no moderator harassment of truthers. It's slowly changing.
The moderator closed this thread before anyone even had a chance to post on it.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...wn-2000-a.html
All that thread deals with is one of the alleged anomalies at the Pentagon. There was no legitimate reason to close that thread.
That site is changing for some reason. I suppose the government is putting pressure on the site owners to get those 9/11 threads under control so that the pro-official version posters keep the upper hand. It's turning into a classic disinfo forum.
I just started this thread over at Political Forum.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...movie-set.html
Here's post #1.
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This is one of the clearest pieces of proof that the moon missions were faked.
http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
The above analyses show that the mountains in the distance in the Apollo pictures were backdrops and not real mountains.
Of course there's a lot more hoax proof besides this.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...ed-studio.html
Let's see if the moderator takes any action against me, or deletes or edits post #1.
I just responded to the main shill in the thread mentioned in my last post. Here's my response. As of now this is post #7.
Let's see if the moderator rides to his rescue.Quote:
I've debated with Jay Windley* and he says some pretty lame things. I'm FatFreddy88 here.Quote:
I wonder what kind of obfuscation you have to wave away the observations of an actual expert.
I said this to Jay Windley.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...postcount=7907
Here's his response.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...postcount=7990
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=251326
There's more on Jay Windley here.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628
Some of the links went dead in the above thread so I took the trouble of finding the new ones. Here they are.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post7712820
Do you still think that Jay Windley has credibility?
*
http://www.clavius.org/about.html
That's a pretty clear anomaly that he's trying to obfuscate. He's just going to look like a horse's a--s. As I've said before, there's a point at which things are so clear that sophistry becomes ineffective.
I just made this post over at Political forum. As of now it's post #12.
http://www.politicalforum.com/showth...post1064900819
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You said that Jay Windley's* analysis was correct and that he could be trusted so you brought up the subject. Now I'm going to address it.Quote:
I have no interest whatsoever in your pathetic and obvious ad-hominem diversion.
Jay Windley totally destroyed his credibility with his analysis of the dust-free sand issue. I'm FatFreddy88 in this discussion.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...postcount=7907
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...postcount=7990
Start reading here at post #28.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=251326
You support Jay Windley so how can you expect us to see you as an objective poster here.
You also destroyed your credibility here.
http://www.politicalforum.com/showth...post1064028979
How canyou expect the viewers to take your analysis in post #10 seriously after that?
This anomaly is simply too clear to obfuscate.
http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
The bottom line is that in figures #7 and #10, if those mountains were as far away as they say they are, they would not be moving back and forth in the gif. They would be as still as the smokestacks in figure #4 are. Your analysis in post #10 is a bunch of technobabble designed to confuse people.
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http://www.clavius.org/about.html
The moderator hasn't been harassing me this time but it may start at anytime. If he doesn't mess with this post, I'll stop reporting on that thread here. Let's see what he does.
The moderator hasn't rode to this guys rescue like I thought he would but he's really looking like a horse's a-s so I'm going to post this last post of mind just in case.
As of now this is post #19 of this thread.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-l...movie-set.html
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You know that only someone with a high science degree could address those points. All laymen can do in a case such as this is look at the record of the person who made those points.Quote:
Now, address the 13 points he raised. So far we have ad-hominem, diversion and arm waving. What is it you spam about debating halls and getting laughed out of them?
Jay Windley refused to address an issue that was too clear to obfuscate here in this thread.
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/thre...on-jay-windley
He made a complete fool of himself when he maintained that just transporting and placing dust-free sand would cause enough erosion to create enough dust when the sand is driven over.
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/thread/1094
You destroyed your credibility by agreeing with him. You also destroyed your credibility by trying to obfuscate the clear proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked.
Both you and Jay Windley are known obfuscators. When a known obfuscator gives an explanation for something that uses language that only a university science graduate would understand, only a simpleton would take it seriously.
This guy has a Ph.D and he's not a known obfuscator.
by OLEG OLEYNIK, Ph.D.c
Previously of the Department of Physics and Technology
Kharkov State University, Ukraine
Who do you think a layman is going to take seriously?
This issue is really just as simple as the dust-free sand issue anyway.
http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
Any layman can just visualize it.
In figures #7 and #10, if those mountains were as far away as NASA says they are, they would not be moving back and forth in the gif. They would be as still as the smokestacks in figure #4 are.
This is simply too clear to obfuscate. If you think you're going to convince thinking people with your sophistry, you're flogging a dead horse.
Tell us why you think Jay Windley refused to answer the question I asked him in the first link I posted above. While you're at it, you answer the question that he refused to answer.
I was searching around for stuff to use on that other thread and I came across this old example of censorship.
http://www.sciencechatforum.com/view...?p=67994#67994
The moderator simply locked the thread and prevented the discussion because he knew the pro-Apollo posters would just end up looking silly trying to obfuscate the proof.
I ended up getting banned there just for being a truther.
I've been searching around looking for stuff to use and I found another old case of moderator censorship.
(post #194)
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/showt...l=1#post453662
Here's the stuff he censored.Quote:
Here are some interesting threads from another forum. This hoax-believer seems to have done a lot of research.
Last edited by Chris; 19th November 2007 at 11:53 PM. Reason: excessive linking and spamming for another forum
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChange...=48603&t=51606
The stuff he censored was relevant info. The moderator just didn't want the viewers to see it. The idea that too much info is bad is a pretty lame excuse.
Notice that I started posting under the username "Scott" and continued posting under the username "Rocky" on that thread.
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/scien...anding-12.html
It was because under the first username I got blocked from that section with no explanation from the moderator. I don't exactly remember if I PMed the moderators to complain but I think I would have. I ended up just opening a new account to be able to continue. That was the pretext they used to ban me.
This is my second post on this thread.
http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/4...-pentagon.html
As of now it's post #5.
The moderator may delete it or edit it because I linked to threads from the "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" forum.Quote:
Some witnesses said they'd seen a 757 hit the Pentagon and some said they'd seen a smaller plane.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/i...howtopic=10632
This is consistent with there being planted bogus witnesses and real witnesses who saw the real thing.
The theory is that a real 757 flew over the Pentagon and landed at the airport behind it while a smaller craft actually hit it or a bomb went off inside it.
http://www.911-archiv.net/hwdvideosh....html?Itemid=0
It would have been easy for them to stage the light poles.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/i...2&st=0******=0
This video puts forth a plausible scenario that would explain what happened to the passengers and crew of flight 77.
Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric Hufschmid - Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWhvRBjbko
(43:45 time mark)
It's pretty clear that the government is lying.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/
Let's see if the moderator does anything.
Several weeks ago I tried to make this post...
...on this thread.Quote:
http://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?3...ons-were-fake-!
It would have been post #62.
When I made the post, a note appeared saying the post would have to be approved by a moderator before it could appear. That was a month ago. It still hasn't appeared.
What do you pro-Apollo posters who posted on this thread say to that?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ
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Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead
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Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead
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Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQQuote:
Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQQuote:
Originally Posted by Cosmoron the twat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQQuote:
Originally Posted by Cosmoron the Useless cretin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ TwatQuote:
Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead
The author doesn't seem to exist when you try to track them down, typical of Aulis to make up an "expert".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmored
He makes up his own equations for parallax and never tests them for all distances. He assumes parallax is linear for distance for it isn't. He also never proves that the pictures he used to test the parallax were suitable for his assumptions. He has no real idea how far displaced from each other his pairs of pics are ad without knowing that his assumptions are meaningless.
Prediction: Cosmo will ignore the above, call me a shill, try to change the subject, and/or throw around some ad hominems.
He may also throw out his copy paste of the supposed rules of disinformation even though he knows he is guilty of 5, 7, 8, 16, 17, 18, and 19. One would think a real person would be concerned about that and at least address the accusation and/or change their behavior if they were going to continue using that link to accuse others. At the very least, a real person would stop using the link. Are you a real person, cosmo? You keep avoiding this question. Are you programmed to answer it?
You and FatFreddy88 have already shown yourselves to be shills...Quote:
call me a shill
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post7880921
...as you both tried to obfuscate the clear proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked. Nobody with any brains will take anything either of you says seriously.
I asked you what you thought of the moderator's not permitting me to post that info. I think it's because it's such clear hoax proof that any shill that tries to obfuscate it will just end up looking like a horse's a-s.
The hoax has already been proven.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
This issue is about how they faked it. It's not about whether they faked it.
Tell us what you think about the moderator's not permitting the viewers to see the info.
And as predicted, total ignoring of the post, and resorting to ad hominems. You really don't have anything else, do you Cosmo? They really ought to program you better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmored
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ TwatQuote:
Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead
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Originally Posted by Cosmoron the shithead