Re: Why do human beings get upset over voter identification?
:lol big picture
You make this lame ass argument constantly. It's not like you are fooling anyone with these claims of me not being able to see the big picture every time you fail to elucidate any empirical examples.
I know you don't have the balls to claim that it helps criminal law enforcement because at that point you might as well put a swastika in your avatar. although you probably do think that. you are a tool for authoritarianism.
You so far have demonstrated that people may want to carry ID because it will get them better health care.
Why should the government how good of health care you get? While you talk about my inability to see the big picture you fail to see the logical extensions of your arguments.
You are saying that the government should mandate people carry better ID's because the result would be better health care. Now compare and contrast that with your opinion on the government insuring health care for people in general.
Are you just a glutton for punishment? You decry me being a bully but for fucks sake do you make it hard. You say incredibly stupid simpleminded shit and then posture with this lame ass tripe.
Re: Why do human beings get upset over voter identification?
I don't think it should just be a driver's license as proof to show you are who you say you are. You should be able to use a passport, your job photo badge if you have one, a college ID card, some type of card that has your info and photo on it, etc...
Are you going to tell me that people can't get that shit? And aren't you a racist when you say that minorities shouldn't have to show ID when they vote because you say they usually can't get it? With your logic, you're implying that every person from a minority group is helpless, stupid, and cannot do simple things on their own. What does that say about you?
And again, if I don't have to show my ID to vote then why should I have to show it if I want to buy alcohol and tobacco? You're picking and choosing.
Re: Why do human beings get upset over voter identification?
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Jacob1983
I don't think it should just be a driver's license as proof to show you are who you say you are. You should be able to use a passport, your job photo badge if you have one, a college ID card, some type of card that has your info and photo on it, etc...
Are you going to tell me that people can't get that shit? And aren't you a racist when you say that minorities shouldn't have to show ID when they vote because you say they usually can't get it? With your logic, you're implying that every person from a minority group is helpless, stupid, and cannot do simple things on their own. What does that say about you?
And again, if I don't have to show my ID to vote then why should I have to show it if I want to buy alcohol and tobacco? You're picking and choosing.
I do not dispute that people should not be able to just go to any polling station and vote based on their word only. I am just saying that the motivations for requiring only a valid state issued photo ID are transparent electioneering.
The laws are not being passed to prevent fraud. For all your justifications of why it should be okay I fail to see you deny that. Whats the point of the legislation?
Equating voting to buying beer is fun though. The point of that legislation is to keep them out of the hands of minors. You can point to teenage alcoholism and the exploitation of children in general as cause for such legislation.
I think the requirement that you keep your ID updated is bullshit too. the point is to ensure you are above a certain age, not to give the state an excuse to tax you. I think that the puritanical laws from the early 20th century banning, regulating, etc alcohol, drugs and the like are bullshit.
On a final note I will quote Thomas Paine
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A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.
Re: Why do human beings get upset over voter identification?
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Jacob1983
I don't get it. In America, you have to show your driver's license if you appear to be under 30 or 40 to buy alcohol and tobacco. What's the fuckin' big deal about showing some ID when you vote? I mean seriously, why bitch? You don't bitch when you go to the store to buy your booze and smokes and have to show ID so why bitch when you go to vote? At some banks, you must show ID in order to make a withdrawal.
And another question for voter ID crybabies, if Americans don't have to show any type of identification in order to vote, do you have a problem with Billy Bob voting for Romney 10 times or Harry Dick voting for Gary Johnson 100 times? What if Barry Jones voted 1000 times for Barry Obama? What about record keeping? Shouldn't there be some type of record of American's votes?
in america you have to show an ID wherever you go or whatever you buy, when most of the shits were faked and sold to us by them chinks. just keep things going this way so chinks will sell us more fake IDs and drain more money outta your pockets
Re: Why do human beings get upset over voter identification?
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Originally Posted by
Jacob1983
I don't think it should just be a driver's license as proof to show you are who you say you are. You should be able to use a passport, your job photo badge if you have one, a college ID card, some type of card that has your info and photo on it, etc...
Are you going to tell me that people can't get that shit? And aren't you a racist when you say that minorities shouldn't have to show ID when they vote because you say they usually can't get it? With your logic, you're implying that every person from a minority group is helpless, stupid, and cannot do simple things on their own. What does that say about you?
And again, if I don't have to show my ID to vote then why should I have to show it if I want to buy alcohol and tobacco? You're picking and choosing.
the ID is what makes u proud and a badge that you "legal" immigrants show off and brag about in front of your countrymen who don't have this tbh
serious question though, do you also show off your dick everytime you meet a female like how you show your ID?
Re: Why do human beings get upset over voter identification?
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FuzzyLumpkins
I am playing devil's advocate...
How many of those 21 million actually vote or would vote?
Doubt it is empirically answerable, but I am curious.