Shup! You're just mad cause your books cost more.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Picture books are always more expensive.
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Shup! You're just mad cause your books cost more.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Picture books are always more expensive.
Ooops, sorry; wrong troll
Who's forcing you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
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Originally Posted by baseline bum
I knew it! Frickin horrible corrupt pieces of shit.
:pctoss
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Originally Posted by baseline bum
Course requires textbook. College Bookstore is the only outlet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Captive markets are the antithesis of free market.
Did you voluntarily take the course?Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
You're not captive. You chose to be a student.
And, in the case of the book mentioned earlier; that there were two different prices tells me there are free market forces at work.
The road to getting filthy stinking rich as an academic is to teach a class at a major state school that everyone is required to take, and then write your own textbook. My American history prof did that...he taught 5 lectures per semester, 300-400 per lecture. His book was by far the most expensive book I ever had to buy in 4 years. He warned you on day one that he did not lecture from the book and you were required to know the book and his lecture topics and that you would fail if you did not buy the book.
Yeah, I had a contrapuntal part-writing text book I had to buy that was authored by my professor. 2x the price of the standard text.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Hence my caveat, "recent development", and it's certainly not the case in some instances as illustrated by CC and myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Luckily in a lot of my classes (especially the math department) the professors would use $10 paperbacks and $10-$15 photocopies of out of print textbooks. In CS some times we'd use professional books that were half the price of typical textbooks. I have to admit, I did really love one of my 1000 page textbooks though.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SH20_OU01_.jpg
Can't think of any other thick textbook I really liked though.... maybe Lang's Algebra was ok I guess.
I gotta respect that you loved math. I just viewed it as an ends to a means (Architect/Engineering major) and slugged through it giving it the least effort necessary to make the grades I needed. That attitude is probably why I have forgotten 9/10 of it over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Every couple of years they add a few new facts to the book, making 2nd, 3rd,4th, etc Edition books, which of course forces all students to buy them new instead of used.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
It's price gouging. Even though there is no formal way to prove it, we all know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Yeah, I suppose that it still makes sense to send them when you can afford it and have saved for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Having said that, I just hope my daughter ends up more mature than I was at 18 years old and doesn't think of it as a 4 to 5 year party. The way I treated college made it that much harder when I got out to find a good job.....and I ended up getting lucky.
I said college is overrated because in my opinion there's more risk than reward. American society and culture has brainwashed kids and the youth into thinking that a college degree equates a better life and higher status in society. That's bullshit if you ask me. You don't need a piece of fuckin' paper that said you went to some university or college and graduated to be successful. College isn't for everyone. Honestly, you should only go if you have a strong passion for whatever you want to major in and have a high intelligence and basically have a talent or a gift.
Besides, what is so bad with going to a trade school or starting your own business?
Fuck, mechanics and electricians make more a year than most recent college graduates yet people look down on mecahnics, electricians, and plumbers. I don't because most of them are good at what they do. Mechanics, electricians, and plumbers have a gift or a talent in my opinion. After all of the work that has been done to my hand me down car, I have much respect for mechanics.
If you were going to go to college straight out of high school, I would suggest a community college then transfer over to a university. Don't live on campus and don't buy any shit that you don't need. Honestly, you should only pay for textbooks, the classes, and a parking permit.
Don't pay it. And, there's no such thing as price gouging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Aside from worthless degrees, having a college degree absolutely opens doors that would not otherwise be open. My current job required a degree. My degree has nothing whatsoever to do with my current duties, but I couldn't even interview for the position without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob1983
This is not unique to my current job either. The last 2 jobs I've had were exactly the same. I've only had 3 jobs since I left education almost 15 years ago now.
You're insane now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I don't know how long you've held your current position but, college degrees aren't the currency they once were. And, the bolded part is the reason why. People graduate college with worthless degrees that are irrelevant to the jobs they eventually hold. Business is figuring that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
And, in the current job market, being employable seems to be more valuable than a college degree, otherwise, there wouldn't be 99-weekers with master and doctorates.
If it's a class you are required to take for graduation you can either buy the fucking book or not graduate. It's not a choice to get screwed, it is a legitimate rape.
Other than government price-fixing, name an instance of price gouging that wasn't just price point set by demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
It's a cost to be factored in when you choose the degree plan. If this isn't anything new, why is everyone so upset?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
You shouldn't have to put yourself in debt 50K to 100K just so you have get a piece of paper that says you graduated from a university. I know I'm beating a dead horse but it's the truth. If you're willing to sacrifice 4, 5, or sometimes 8 years of your life to get that piece of paper, why they fuck should you have to dig a hole and be buried in debt after you get that piece of paper?
There is such a thing as a fucking idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You are a fucking idiot.Quote:
.. Last week, the DOJ warned Apple and the E-book publishers Simon & Schuster Inc., the Hachette Book Group, Pearson Penguin Group, Macmillan, and HarperCollins Publishers about impending charges of price-gouging and anti-trust violations.
http://www.onlinecolleges.net/2012/0...ok-publishers/