How The American University was Killed, in Five Easy Steps

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Aside from worthless degrees, having a college degree absolutely opens doors that would not otherwise be open. My current job required a degree. My degree has nothing whatsoever to do with my current duties, but I couldn't even interview for the position without it.

This is not unique to my current job either. The last 2 jobs I've had were exactly the same. I've only had 3 jobs since I left education almost 15 years ago now.

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I don't know how long you've held your current position but, college degrees aren't the currency they once were. And, the bolded part is the reason why. People graduate college with worthless degrees that are irrelevant to the jobs they eventually hold. Business is figuring that out.

And, in the current job market, being employable seems to be more valuable than a college degree, otherwise, there wouldn't be 99-weekers with master and doctorates.

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Just because you end up in a job that doesn't directly relate to your degree doesn't mean your degree is worthless. Most engineers eventually end up in management positions.

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Originally Posted by Blake

There is such a thing as a fucking idiot.

You are a fucking idiot.

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I didn't say people weren't calling stuff "price-gouging." Hell, The State of Texas has law against it. They use nebulous terms like exorbitant and excessive -- terms completely open to interpretation.

What's excessive? If I have the last widget and two people want it, why can't I sell it for as much as one of them are willing to pay?

Really, there is no such thing. Price gouging is a construct of a nanny state government wanting to make the market accessible to those who can't afford it. In a free market, people should be able to sell their products for whatever they able to get.

The last widget scenario is completely void in a discussion outside of discontinued product.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

Just because you end up in a job that doesn't directly relate to your degree doesn't mean your degree is worthless. Most engineers eventually end up in management positions.

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It also doesn't mean it's worth anything, either.

"Really, there is no such thing. Price gouging is a construct of a nanny state government wanting to make the market accessible to those who can't afford it. In a free market, people should be able to sell their products for whatever they able to get."



Sherman Act anybody?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It also doesn't mean it's worth anything, either.

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If it's a predicated condition to employment, it's damn well worth something.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

"Really, there is no such thing. Price gouging is a construct of a nanny state government wanting to make the market accessible to those who can't afford it. In a free market, people should be able to sell their products for whatever they able to get."

Sherman Act anybody?

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Collusion and monopolies, leading to artificially inflated prices, aren't the same thing; although, I really don't think there should be a law against monopolies, either.

Perhaps the public would have a different view about what necessary to live life.

price gouging is a result of artificially inflating prices. If you cannot see that, you lack the vocabulary to even debate the point.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

If it's a predicated condition to employment, it's damn well worth something.

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But, is it worth the debt incurred?

I think it's pretty silly for companies to just have as a prerequisite the requirement for a non-specific degree. I think, as time goes by, with the notion that ALL high school graduates should go to college, companies are beginning to think it's pretty silly, as well.

There are a shit load of unemployed college graduates -- many of them graduate into unemployment.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

But, is it worth the debt incurred?

I think it's pretty silly for companies to just have as a prerequisite the requirement for a non-specific degree. I think, as time goes by, with the notion that ALL high school graduates should go to college, companies are beginning to think it's pretty silly, as well.

There are a shit load of unemployed college graduates -- many of them graduate into unemployment.

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Stop moving the goal posts.

Now you want a cost benefit study too?

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

price gouging is a result of artificially inflating prices. If you cannot see that, you lack the vocabulary to even debate the point.

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It's not artificial if people are willing to pay it -- that's real. You and "price gouging" law proponents are just butt hurt that the right people aren't willing to pay it.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It also doesn't mean it's worth anything, either.

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Correct. Ergo, the worth of someone's college degree isn't determined by someone's current job duties.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It's not artificial if people are willing to pay it -- that's real. You and "price gouging" law proponents are just butt hurt that the right people aren't willing to pay it.

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Are we still talking about college textbooks? :wtf

Nothing says "free market" like a government-sanctioned monopoly...

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Nothing says "free market" like a government-sanctioned monopoly...

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There are private schools.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It's not artificial if people are willing to pay it -- that's real. You and "price gouging" law proponents are just butt hurt that the right people aren't willing to pay it.

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Ok. It's confirmed. You lack the vocabulary to even debate the point.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

There are private schools.

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Uh? What does that has to do with copyrights?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

But, is it worth the debt incurred?

I think it's pretty silly for companies to just have as a prerequisite the requirement for a non-specific degree. I think, as time goes by, with the notion that ALL high school graduates should go to college, companies are beginning to think it's pretty silly, as well.

There are a shit load of unemployed college graduates -- many of them graduate into unemployment.

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Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes it isn't. You can never be completely certain before actually spending the money it takes to get a degree, but I've always thought this was a good rule of thumb for someone to use. If you can't explain in four sentences or less how the degree you're going to get is going to make you money, you probably shouldn't spend the money on it.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Really, there is no such thing. Price gouging is a construct of a nanny state government wanting to make the market accessible to those who can't afford it. In a free market, people should be able to sell their products for whatever they able to get.

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there is no such thing as a free market, except when I say there is such a thing.

/yonispeak

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Originally Posted by Blake

there is no such thing as a free market, except when I say there is such a thing.

/yonispeak

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