MSNBC's Chris Matthews goes full-on...

...Obama surrogate. :lmao

I'm guessing he's not getting the same "tingle" with former Governor Mitt Romney.

:lmao

MSNBC, as well as Fox news, are irrelevant.

Please stop posting these dumbass videos. You're not scoring any points against anyone.

Congrats! Mathews is a retard! These are things we know

He just activated Matthew's liberal automaton talking point

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...50sw8sw578.gif

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Originally Posted by symple19

MSNBC, as well as Fox news, are irrelevant.

Please stop posting these dumbass videos. You're not scoring any points against anyone.

Congrats! Mathews is a retard! These are things we know

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They are relevant. You can see where our brothers like Boutons, manny, chump, George, elnono, random, just to name a few get their thoughts from. You just witnessed how the birther conversation goes when a democrat brings it up. No matter what the republican says they call you a birther or you are insensitive to Obama when discussing the birther silliness. Keep on posting these videos. They are a hoot. God bless

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I don't watch MSNBC and/or Chris Matthews. Ron bless

That's pretty ridiculous. A charge of racism? I mean it's dishonest to say he was just talking about being from Michigan, but how is that racism?

And :lol @ "your side". Honestly could he be more transparently partisan? It's like he's channeling Sean Hannity or something.

LMAO @ MSNBC showing Lockup marathons every weekend.

LMAO @ FOX News' fair and balanced


Both channels are jokes.

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Congrats! Mathews is a retard! These are things we know

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:tu

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

They are relevant. You can see where our brothers like Boutons, manny, chump, George, elnono, random, just to name a few get their thoughts from. You just witnessed how the birther conversation goes when a democrat brings it up. No matter what the republican says they call you a birther or you are insensitive to Obama when discussing the birther silliness. Keep on posting these videos. They are a hoot. God bless

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Yes, the ones who keep repeating the same bullshit are outright idiots.

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He just activated Matthew's liberal automaton talking point

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...50sw8sw578.gif

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He's a broken record

Jack, I am going to bet that manny, george, and most certainly nono and random don't watch MSNBC. Chump doesn't really have any talking points, he is mostly just here to serve as board antagonist but doesn't really add anything to the conversation (for the MOST part). MSNBC and Fox News are, for the most part, one in the same.

Dan Hesse

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Jack, I am going to bet that manny, george, and most certainly nono and random don't watch MSNBC. Chump doesn't really have any talking points, he is mostly just here to serve as board antagonist but doesn't really add anything to the conversation (for the MOST part). MSNBC and Fox News are, for the most part, one in the same.

Dan Hesse

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From where do you suspect they picked up on the "Mitt Romney is extreme" meme? It didn't show up until a few weeks ago and now, it's the catch word on every liberals lips. It's even cropping up in here.

It didn't go mainstream until after that Akin idiot made his comment in Missouri but - now that Democrats think they have a winner in pimping this imaginary "War on Women" - all of a sudden, Mitt Romney is EXTREME!

Manny, George, and most certainly ElNono are getting their talking points form some liberal outlet. It doesn't have to be the ones mentioned in here because there are far too many for some of them to ever get mentioned in SpurTalk.

I will admit, that I don't read every single thread here, but I am not sure that I have seen people say that Romney is extreme (unless we are talking about boutons). Akin is extreme, Ryan has come out as far right as possible (at least on this issue). Romney allows for a little leeway. However, part of the Republican's platform is to legislate away a choice for a woman which seems like at least an attack if not a war on women.

As far as where they get their news, I don't know, but they are not extreme in their views so I would say that they dont get them from msnbc or fox (two peas in a pod). They also don't seem to post a lot of email chain fodder so they don't get their propaganda from the same place you do either. Shit, Manny spends as much time criticizing Obama as he does supporting him.

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They are relevant. You can see where our brothers like Boutons, manny, chump, George, elnono, random, just to name a few get their thoughts from.

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You are going to hell for lying, brother. Your anger has consumed you and caused you to bear false witness. I'd pray for you, but it wouldn't help.

Ron bless.

P.S. -- God doesn't give a shit about your post count whining either.

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I will admit, that I don't read every single thread here, but I am not sure that I have seen people say that Romney is extreme (unless we are talking about boutons). Akin is extreme, Ryan has come out as far right as possible (at least on this issue).

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And Barack Obama has come out as far left as possible, on this issue but, no one in the liberal media is calling that extreme.

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Romney allows for a little leeway. However, part of the Republican's platform is to legislate away a choice for a woman which seems like at least an attack if not a war on women.

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Except when you consider there are conservative women who hold this position or, at least, don't feel the party's position is as extreme as do the opposition.

For instance, Democrats generally believe Republicans want to deprive women of contraception but, what the party has said is they don't want the government to pay for it and they don't believe religious-based health care providers and organizations should be forced to provide such services.

On the question of abortion, I think it's an entirely reasonable position to hold that, after conception, an unborn child is a human life. I also realize reasonable people disagree on this point. But, you have to admit, if this is a position reasonably held, being opposed to abortion isn't extreme.

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If all my talking points come from a media outlet, the same must be true for the board liberals.

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Except when you consider there are conservative women who hold this position or, at least, don't feel the party's position is as extreme as do the opposition.

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"Internalized oppression

In sociology and psychology, internalized oppression is the manner in which an oppressed group comes to use against itself the methods of the oppressor. For example, sometimes members of marginalized groups hold an oppressive view toward their own group, or start to believe in negative stereotypes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppress...zed_oppression

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And Barack Obama has come out as far left as possible, on this issue but, no one in the liberal media is calling that extreme.

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Really? He specifically said that abortions should be able to be done all the way up until the child crowns? I must have missed that since that would seem to be the other extreme to no abortions.

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Except when you consider there are conservative women who hold this position or, at least, don't feel the party's position is as extreme as do the opposition.

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Great! This is why I am pro-Choice, so that those women have the right to choose that option.

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For instance, Democrats generally believe Republicans want to deprive women of contraception but, what the party has said is they don't want the government to pay for it and they don't believe religious-based health care providers and organizations should be forced to provide such services.

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Until such time as we have a single payor system (or a quasi single payor system such as Germany), this is the way to get everyone covered for what is a issue which most certainly will affect their health. If you don't like it, rally the troops to amend the aca to move to a single payor (or even better, germany-like system).

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On the question of abortion, I think it's an entirely reasonable position to hold that, after conception, an unborn child is a human life. I also realize reasonable people disagree on this point. But, you have to admit, if this is a position reasonably held, being opposed to abortion isn't extreme.

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As far as this goes, I had read a book by carl sagan where he tackles the subject in a pretty reasonable manner. Every time it comes up I go and look for it, but couldn't find it (I was looking in the wrong book). This is briefly what he says in "Dragons of Eden"

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This essential human quality, I believe, can only be our
intelligence. If so, the particular sanctity of human life can be
identified with the development and functioning of the
neocortex. We cannot require its full development, because that
does not occur until many years after birth. But perhaps we
might set the transition to humanity at the time when
neocortical activity begins, as determined by
electroencephalography of the fetus. Some insights on when
the brain develops a distinctly human character emerge from
the simplest embryological observations (see the figure on page
208). Very little work has been done in this field to date, and it
seems to me that such investigations could play a major role in
achieving an acceptable compromise in the abortion debate.
Undoubtedly there would be a variation from fetus to fetus as
to the time of initiation on the first neocortical EEC signals, and
a legal definition of the. beginning of characteristically human
life should be biased conservatively- that is, toward the
youngest fetus that exhibits such activity. Perhaps the
transition would fall toward the .end of the first trimester or
near the beginning of the second trimester of pregnancy. (Here
we are talking about what, in rational society, should be
prohibited by law: anyone who feels that abortion of a younger
fetus might be murder should be under no legal obligation to
perform or accept such an abortion.)

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To get the full context of this particular conversation go here:
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvin...gonsofeden.pdf

and start on the end of page 134 and go through the beginning of 138

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"Internalized oppression

In sociology and psychology, internalized oppression is the manner in which an oppressed group comes to use against itself the methods of the oppressor. For example, sometimes members of marginalized groups hold an oppressive view toward their own group, or start to believe in negative stereotypes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppress...zed_oppression

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I wouldn't go that far at all, their choice is against abortions (as is that of myself and my wife), but the difference is that we aren't high and mighty about our choice that affects US. We don't try to make our choice YOUR choice.

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I wouldn't go that far at all, their choice is against abortions (as is that of myself and my wife), but the difference is that we aren't high and mighty about our choice that affects US. We don't try to make our choice YOUR choice.

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Why are you opposed to abortion?

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I wouldn't go that far at all, their choice is against abortions (as is that of myself and my wife), but the difference is that we aren't high and mighty about our choice that affects US. We don't try to make our choice YOUR choice.

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That's a pretty important difference, though.

The way I read it, Yoni's comment seemed to indicate that anti-abortion policy or the Republican's platform of legislating away a woman's choice can't be part of the "war on women" because other women support it.

A woman being anti-abortion on a personal level is not, in my opinion, an example of internalized oppression. A woman supporting anti-abortion legislation, however, absolutely is.

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Why are you opposed to abortion?

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Because it is and has been the right choice for our situation (TBH there has been only one time that we exercised that choice which is neither here nor there just wanted to make it clear that this isn't some kind of weekly choice we make) :lol.

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A woman being anti-abortion on a personal level is not, in my opinion, an example of internalized oppression. A woman supporting anti-abortion legislation, however, absolutely is.

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How do you feel about people who support legislation against murder?

Just understand that most pro choice people don't see abortion any different than murder. If legislation against murder is oppression, then so be it.

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That's a pretty important difference, though.

The way I read it, Yoni's comment seemed to indicate that anti-abortion policy or the Republican's platform of legislating away a woman's choice can't be part of the "war on women" because other women support it.

A woman being anti-abortion on a personal level is not, in my opinion, an example of internalized oppression. A woman supporting anti-abortion legislation, however, absolutely is.

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Fair enough. This makes it a little clearer, I withdraw my argument.

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How do you feel about people who support legislation against murder?

Just understand that most pro choice people don't see abortion any different than murder. If legislation against murder is oppression, then so be it.

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I think you meant anti-choice.

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I think you meant anti-choice.

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Oh yes.

The choice to murder.

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Really? He specifically said that abortions should be able to be done all the way up until the child crowns? I must have missed that since that would seem to be the other extreme to no abortions.

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His position has always been he would not interfere, under any circumstances, with a woman's choice to get an abortion. And, he held this position when specifically asked about late-term abortions.

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Great! This is why I am pro-Choice, so that those women have the right to choose that option.

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But, how do you square that in the context of women who honestly believe abortion is the taking of a human life?

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Until such time as we have a single payor system (or a quasi single payor system such as Germany), this is the way to get everyone covered for what is a issue which most certainly will affect their health. If you don't like it, rally the troops to amend the aca to move to a single payor (or even better, germany-like system).

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Single payer would still violate the reservations of religious groups or people whose tax dollars go to the provision contraception, abortifacients, or abortions.

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As far as this goes, I had read a book by carl sagan where he tackles the subject in a pretty reasonable manner. Every time it comes up I go and look for it, but couldn't find it (I was looking in the wrong book). This is briefly what he says in "Dragons of Eden"

To get the full context of this particular conversation go here:
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvin...gonsofeden.pdf

and start on the end of page 134 and go through the beginning of 138

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I think that's a reasonable position to hold but, it doesn't encompass all thinking on the matter and it's just as reasonable for someone to hold the position that human life begins at conception. It's certainly a more reasonable position than calling the fetus a parasitic piece of tissue, imo.

any woman that thinks abortion is taking a life shouldn't get an abortion.

/done

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That's a pretty important difference, though.

The way I read it, Yoni's comment seemed to indicate that anti-abortion policy or the Republican's platform of legislating away a woman's choice can't be part of the "war on women" because other women support it.

A woman being anti-abortion on a personal level is not, in my opinion, an example of internalized oppression. A woman supporting anti-abortion legislation, however, absolutely is.

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I think if the Left would ever recognize it is a reasonable position to believe a human life is created at conception it would follow that vehement opposition to abortion is a reasonable response to that belief.

Instead, they dehumanize the unborn child and call those who hold the position extreme.

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Instead, they dehumanize the unborn child and call those who hold the position extreme.

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Then they are so against the death penalty for adults.

Why is the death people OK for the innocent, but not the guilty. I never understood this.

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I think if the Left would ever recognize it is a reasonable position to believe a human life is created at conception it would follow that vehement opposition to abortion is a reasonable response to that belief.

Instead, they dehumanize the unborn child and call those who hold the position extreme.

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Yeah, let them be born, THEN we can treat them as sub-human when their parents can't afford them and deny them social programs while lining the pockets of red/blue team higher ups while we're all distracted.

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Yeah, let them be born, THEN we can treat them as sub-human when their parents can't afford them and deny them social programs while lining the pockets of red/blue team higher ups while we're all distracted.

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Poverty is the excuse for murder?

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Poverty is the excuse for murder?

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The death penalty is murder. Whats your point?

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Yeah, let them be born, THEN we can treat them as sub-human when their parents can't afford them and deny them social programs while lining the pockets of red/blue team higher ups while we're all distracted.

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Thanks for missing the point. Your response suggests we should be okay will taking innocent human life post-partum, as well.

If it's reasonable to believe a human life is created at conception, it is reasonable to be vehemently opposed to all abortion...regardless of the consequences that grow from that opposition.

I'd rather work on solutions dealing with what you suggest than willingly allow the murder of innocent children.

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most certainly ElNono are getting their talking points form some liberal outlet.

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more narratives... smh

I read news from everywhere... NY Times, LA Times, BBC, Reuters... I also use the google news aggregation quite a bit, which takes you to completely different places...

That you're obsessed with shitty talking points doesn't mean everyone else is, tbh...

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Poverty is the excuse for murder?

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Like always, you completely miss the point and try to project the super vague "murder" thing on me. I never said I was for or against abortion, just pointing out that if a person has no choice but to have a baby that they aren't able to afford, they should be awarded proper benefits to see to it that the child grows up in a suitable environment and isn't eating candy canes for dinner every night.

But you don't care about people that are actually alive and struggling I assume.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Thanks for missing the point. Your response suggests we should be okay will taking innocent human life post-partum, as well.

If it's reasonable to believe a human life is created at conception, it is reasonable to be vehemently opposed to all abortion...regardless of the consequences that grow from that opposition.

I'd rather work on solutions dealing with what you suggest than willingly allow the murder of innocent children.

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Who are we to take a life of a criminal?

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And Barack Obama has come out as far left as possible, on this issue but, no one in the liberal media is calling that extreme.

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:lol at finding a way to shoehorn in this week's republican talking point

SBA List to launch Missouri ads against Obama on abortion

The GOP should make Obama’s extremist abortion position an issue

Unearthed Video Shows Obama Supporting Late-Term Abortions

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Thanks for missing the point. Your response suggests we should be okay will taking innocent human life post-partum, as well.

If it's reasonable to believe a human life is created at conception, it is reasonable to be vehemently opposed to all abortion...regardless of the consequences that grow from that opposition.

I'd rather work on solutions dealing with what you suggest than willingly allow the murder of innocent children.

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No you wouldn't. You've come out repeatedly as anti-welfare. You know who's on welfare? People with 8 kids that they can't afford.

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I will admit, that I don't read every single thread here, but I am not sure that I have seen people say that Romney is extreme (unless we are talking about boutons). Akin is extreme, Ryan has come out as far right as possible (at least on this issue). Romney allows for a little leeway. However, part of the Republican's platform is to legislate away a choice for a woman which seems like at least an attack if not a war on women.

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Mitt is a guy I was considering voting for. And while I don't think he's necessarily extreme, he panders and looks subservient to the more extreme part of the party, while not even really trying to appeal to guys like me. So he hasn't earned my vote, at least yet. Neither has Barry, btw.

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Mitt is a guy I was considering voting for. And while I don't think he's necessarily extreme, he panders and looks subservient to the more extreme part of the party, while not even really trying to appeal to guys like me. So he hasn't earned my vote, at least yet. Neither has Barry, btw.

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Mitt also looks socially awkward trying to connect to normal people.

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Who are we to take a life of a criminal?

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A society that values innocent life and wishes to prevent a recurrence from at least one person that doesn't value it, to the point they were willing to kill.

That's who we are.

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The death penalty is murder. Whats your point?

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There was a trial.

Was there a trial to determine the guilt of a fetus prior to it's death sentence?

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There was a trial.

Was there a trial to determine the guilt of a fetus prior to it's death sentence?

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abortion is not a crime.

you drunk again?

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abortion is not a crime.

you drunk again?

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Thanks for being too dumb to understand my point.

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His position has always been he would not interfere, under any circumstances, with a woman's choice to get an abortion. And, he held this position when specifically asked about late-term abortions.

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link please? also unless he specifically stated that you can't restrict a woman's choice until the baby crowns, then he isn't "as far left on the issue" as you have stated.

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But, how do you square that in the context of women who honestly believe abortion is the taking of a human life?

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I square it by stating that based on their belief, they should not get an abortion.

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Single payer would still violate the reservations of religious groups or people whose tax dollars go to the provision contraception, abortifacients, or abortions.

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So you approve of everything that your taxes pay for?

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I think that's a reasonable position to hold but, it doesn't encompass all thinking on the matter and it's just as reasonable for someone to hold the position that human life begins at conception. It's certainly a more reasonable position than calling the fetus a parasitic piece of tissue, imo.

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I would say that your idea that a group of human cells is human opens up far more issues than it solves, especially since I just cut my finger nails last night.
Also
A fetus is, by definition, a parasite.

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an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it

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^why are you so obsessed over unborn fetuses that you don't have any compassion or empathy for the living?(directed at WC)

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A society that values innocent life and wishes to prevent a recurrence from at least one person that doesn't value it, to the point they were willing to kill.

That's who we are.

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Except people still kill people with knowledge of the death penalty. It deters no one and lets them off easy. It is also still murder.

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There was a trial.

Was there a trial to determine the guilt of a fetus prior to it's death sentence?

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What about those who were raped? Where is their trial?

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How do you feel about people who support legislation against murder?

Just understand that most pro choice people don't see abortion any different than murder. If legislation against murder is oppression, then so be it.

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Try as the anti-abortion/pro-life folk might, it is impossible to take the lives of adult women out of the abortion conversation.

My belief is that legislation intended to make abortion illegal, or illegal except in certain instances, or to otherwise remove and/or control a woman's ability to make decisions regarding her own body is inherently oppressive to women.

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Try as the anti-abortion/pro-life folk might, it is impossible to take the lives of adult women out of the abortion conversation.

My belief is that legislation intended to make abortion illegal, or illegal except in certain instances, or to otherwise remove and/or control a woman's ability to make decisions regarding her own body is inherently oppressive to women.

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Yes, I understand your position and disagree because it means you turn a blind eye to murder for convenience.

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Originally Posted by CuckingFunt

Try as the anti-abortion/pro-life folk might, it is impossible to take the lives of adult women out of the abortion conversation.

My belief is that legislation intended to make abortion illegal, or illegal except in certain instances, or to otherwise remove and/or control a woman's ability to make decisions regarding her own body is inherently oppressive to women.

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he doesn't respect women.

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No you wouldn't. You've come out repeatedly as anti-welfare. You know who's on welfare? People with 8 kids that they can't afford.

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Being opposed to government charity isn't being opposed to charity.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

A society that values innocent life and wishes to prevent a recurrence from at least one person that doesn't value it, to the point they were willing to kill.

That's who we are.

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the same could be accomplished (if one were pro-life) by excluding them from society. If only there were a mechanism that we could develop to do this...

No, death penalty isn't about protecting people, it is about vengance.

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A society that values innocent life and wishes to prevent a recurrence from at least one person that doesn't value it, to the point they were willing to kill.

That's who we are.

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Retarded. It's been well documented that numerous innocent men and women have been given the death penalty on faulty evidence and exonerated after the fact.

Spare me the BS about "caring about innocent lives". If you truly believed that you would hold the position that if a particular system costs even one innocent person their life, it is a system not worth using.

Once again, hypocrytical and conflicting remarks from the resident parrot.

Chris was foaming at the mouth tbh..

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Yes, I understand your position and disagree because it means you turn a blind eye to murder for convenience.

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Then you don't understand my position.

Yes, innocent people have been convicted. A very small percentage. How many unborn children were guilty?

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Then you don't understand my position.

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It's not for convenience?

What then?

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Yes, innocent people have been convicted. A very small percentage. How many unborn children were guilty?

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guilty of what?

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guilty of what?

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That's what I am asking.

What are the unborn children guilty of that they should receive the death sentence?

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Retarded. It's been well documented that numerous innocent men and women have been given the death penalty on faulty evidence and exonerated after the fact.

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I would be in favor of trying and executing prosecutors and police that gain convictions on false information.

It's been well documented that every aborted fetus was innocent.

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Spare me the BS about "caring about innocent lives". If you truly believed that you would hold the position that if a particular system costs even one innocent person their life, it is a system not worth using.

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If only we were talking about one innocent life. Instead, we're talking about 1.21 million innocent lives per year.

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Once again, hypocrytical and conflicting remarks from the resident parrot.

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It's neither hypocritical nor inconsistent.

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That's what I am asking.

What are the unborn children guilty of that they should receive the death sentence?

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damn, you must be drunk.

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damn, you must be drunk.

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No.

You're just too stupid to understand.

I'm sure others here understand my point.

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I would be in favor of trying and executing prosecutors and police that gain convictions on false information.

It's been well documented that every aborted fetus was innocent.


If only we were talking about one innocent life. Instead, we're talking about 1.21 million innocent lives per year.


It's neither hypocritical nor inconsistent.

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Does a fetus have the ability to suffer like the wrong man being put to death? and you would put a prosecutor or officer to death for a witness accidentally giving false info? Goddamn you're stupid.

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Does a fetus have the ability to suffer like the wrong man being put to death? and you would put a prosecutor or officer to death for a witness accidentally giving false info? Goddamn you're stupid.

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no shit. bush gave false info.......that led to many deaths. all good in yoni's book.

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Originally Posted by Drachen

Jack, I am going to bet that manny, george, and most certainly nono and random don't watch MSNBC. Chump doesn't really have any talking points, he is mostly just here to serve as board antagonist but doesn't really add anything to the conversation (for the MOST part). MSNBC and Fox News are, for the most part, one in the same.

Dan Hesse

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Please provide examples. Be specific.

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Please provide examples. Be specific.

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:lol

I think Chris Matthews should win a Pulitzer.

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Originally Posted by Drachen

Jack, I am going to bet that manny, george, and most certainly nono and random don't watch MSNBC. Chump doesn't really have any talking points, he is mostly just here to serve as board antagonist but doesn't really add anything to the conversation (for the MOST part). MSNBC and Fox News are, for the most part, one in the same.

Dan Hesse

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You would lose that bet. Those few I named watch both daily. It all over their post. God bless

Why are my tax dollars going to abortion clinics? How is forcing me to pay taxes on something I do not agree with not oppression? I would stop oppressing you if you stop oppressing me. Go have you abortion(s), just leave me and my money out of it.

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Does a fetus have the ability to suffer like the wrong man being put to death?

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They have the ability to be dead.

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and you would put a prosecutor or officer to death for a witness accidentally giving false info? Goddamn you're stupid.

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Excuse me; KNOWINGLY, INTENTIONALLY, OR WITH MALICE AFORETHOUGHT. Does that cover it?

If a prosecutor or police officer ignores exculpatory evidence or fabricates incriminating evidence that results in the death of someone, that should be a capital crime.

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They have the ability to be dead.

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Yet they lack the ability to be alive.

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I think Chris Matthews should win a Pulitzer.

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I've got your Pulitzer right here, mouse:

New Study Shows Smoking Pot Permanently Lowers IQ

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Yet they lack the ability to be alive.

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They're alive until the abortionist kills them.

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I've got your Pulitzer right here, mouse:

New Study Shows Smoking Pot Permanently Lowers IQ

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This study concludes that smoking pot before the brain is fully developed can lead to permanent damage.

Basically, bad for people under the age of 22 or so.

No permanent brain damage found in people who didn't start until they were adults.

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Please provide examples. Be specific.

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by mingus

Why are my tax dollars going to abortion clinics? How is forcing me to pay taxes on something I do not agree with not oppression? I would stop oppressing you if you stop oppressing me. Go have you abortion(s), just leave me and my money out of it.

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Just as soon as you give up tax exempt status for religious institutions. I am tired of my taxes going toward the subsidization of these entities. It's oppressive. Stop oppressing me.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

You would lose that bet. Those few I named watch both daily. It all over their post. God bless

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I have yet to see one picture in any of their posts of them watching both daily, nothing is all over there posts. Hot mess.

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They have the ability to be dead.


Excuse me; KNOWINGLY, INTENTIONALLY, OR WITH MALICE AFORETHOUGHT. Does that cover it?

If a prosecutor or police officer ignores exculpatory evidence or fabricates incriminating evidence that results in the death of someone, that should be a capital crime.

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So you still aren't pro-life, got it.

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Originally Posted by mingus

Why are my tax dollars going to abortion clinics? How is forcing me to pay taxes on something I do not agree with not oppression? I would stop oppressing you if you stop oppressing me. Go have you abortion(s), just leave me and my money out of it.

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:lol Everybody's tax dollars go towards something they don't believe in. I'd guess that the amount that goes towards actual abortions is relatively small compared to Bush's illegal war that he and his buddies will never be imprisoned for.

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Originally Posted by Drachen

I have yet to see one picture in any of their posts of them watching both daily, nothing is all over there posts. Hot mess.

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Brother, they are everywhere. Take a looksy at Boutons latest thread. "tea baggers" that's a Maddows line from her show on msnbc. She was the first tv personality to use it. Boutons has been using it ever since. Fox and msnbc influence are all over those guys post I mentioned. You don't have to look far. God bless

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Originally Posted by Drachen

Jack, I am going to bet that manny, george, and most certainly nono and random don't watch MSNBC. Chump doesn't really have any talking points, he is mostly just here to serve as board antagonist but doesn't really add anything to the conversation (for the MOST part). MSNBC and Fox News are, for the most part, one in the same.

Dan Hesse

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Brother, they are everywhere. Take a looksy at Boutons latest thread. "tea baggers" that's a Maddows line from her show on msnbc. She was the first tv personality to use it. Boutons has been using it ever since. Fox and msnbc influence are all over those guys post I mentioned. You don't have to look far. God bless

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Pay less.

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Originally Posted by Drachen

Pay less.

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I didn't notice you left our brother Boutons off list. I used him for what i thought would be a obvious reason, he just used a msnbc reference. I will back up my statement with other references as they present themselves. God bless

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I didn't notice you left our brother Boutons off list. I used him for what i thought would be a obvious reason, he just used a msnbc reference. I will back up my statement with other references as they present themselves. God bless

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Ok, so thus far, the posters which I defended didn't post any videos of them watching MSNBC. The poster that I conspicuously left off proved to you that he watches MSNBC, thanks for noticing the problems with your posts.

Red dress.

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Ok, so thus far, the posters which I defended didn't post any videos of them watching MSNBC. The poster that I conspicuously left off proved to you that he watches MSNBC, thanks for noticing the problems with your posts.

Red dress.

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Brother, you're being silly. Boutons didn't post any videos either of him watching shows either yet you came to the same conclusion I did. Like I said before, I'll try to update you on the others as they pop up. God bless

And George started a thread the other day referencing to fox news that he can't find Ryan abortion thing there. Plus he is a Maddows fans

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Brother, you're being silly. Boutons didn't post any videos either of him watching shows either yet you came to the same conclusion I did. Like I said before, I'll try to update you on the others as they pop up. God bless

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No problem, it is good to know that you make claims without proof.

Ample chest.

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No problem, it is good to know that you make claims without proof.

Ample chest.

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More silliness. God bless

Manny stayed up all night watching the wisconsin elections, recalls whatever was going on durning those times. Guess what, they were only on two stations. God bless

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

And George started a thread the other day referencing to fox news that he can't find Ryan abortion thing there. Plus he is a Maddows fans

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Saying that Fox News didn't cover something is proof that he watches something other than fox news??? That is silliness.

Elliott Ness.

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:lol Everybody's tax dollars go towards something they don't believe in. I'd guess that the amount that goes towards actual abortions is relatively small compared to Bush's illegal war that he and his buddies will never be imprisoned for.

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It doesn't stop it from being oppressive. Forcing me to subsidize something which I do not morally believe in is just as oppressive as the policies pro-lifers want. Some people just don't get that, and until they do they will continue believing their shit don't stink when in fact it does. One of the reasons I've been leaning more and more toward libertarianism. Taxing can be a form of oppression.

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Originally Posted by mingus

It doesn't stop it from being oppressive. Forcing me to subsidize something which I do not morally believe in is just as oppressive as the policies pro-lifers want. Some people just don't get that, and until they do they will continue believing their shit don't stink when in fact it does. One of the reasons I've been leaning more and more toward libertarianism. Taxing can be a form of oppression.

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No one is forcing you to have an abortion. That would be oppressive.

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No one is forcing you to have an abortion. That would be oppressive.

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Of course it is.

Matthews was my commencement speaker in undergrad. Not only was his speech terrible, he sounded drunk. More than one person noticed he was slurring words. He went on at around 9:30/10 am.

Party on Chris.

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Originally Posted by mingus

It doesn't stop it from being oppressive. Forcing me to subsidize something which I do not morally believe in is just as oppressive as the policies pro-lifers want. Some people just don't get that, and until they do they will continue believing their shit don't stink when in fact it does. One of the reasons I've been leaning more and more toward libertarianism. Taxing can be a form of oppression.

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I doubt tax policy will ever be dictated by what you personally feel is offensive/morally unjust/oppressive/etc. And that has nothing to do with being libertarian, tbh...

Taxation is closer to theft than oppression, tbh.....

Speaking of Mathews, he is having a hiss fit along with Maddows right now. God bless

Mathews just said mitt at the comvention was like prince Charles in new guinea. Lol. These people are butthurt. God bless

He got you hooked jack... guess Chrissy knows what buttons to push. Ron bless.

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He got you hooked jack... guess Chrissy knows what buttons to push. Ron bless.

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If you say so, brother. Good speech but watching the msnbc commentators going nuts is what I am truly hooked on for the moment. God bless

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

If you say so, brother. Good speech but watching the msnbc commentators going nuts is what I am truly hooked on for the moment. God bless

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so a it turns out jack is the only person who watches msnbc to get his talking points.


Jack obsess.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

If you say so, brother. Good speech but watching the msnbc commentators going nuts is what I am truly hooked on for the moment. God bless

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You're the one commenting what chrissy is saying and watching msnbc... whatever they're doing, looks like it's working for you. Good for you. Ron bless.