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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Hornets78
I don't like Obama or Romney, and I can't stand neo-cons, but I think Romney is the lesser of two evils and deep down is really a moderate and most likely will govern like one once elected. I could be wrong. He could actually believe the neo-con bullshit he's trying to run on.
I guess I don't understand how you come to the conclusion Romney is the Lesser of two evils because you think he will govern as a moderate when you know for a fact Barry is going to govern like a moderate. Especially WRT foreign policy.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
That's my issue with him... When the primaries started, I though he would be an appealing candidate if you're closer to the center... but once he started the pandering to the base, you start wondering if he's such a weak guy that's going to get run over by the neocons and warhawks around him.
That's a good point. GW ran on a more moderate platform in 2000, but let the hawks around him convince him to take more neocon positions especially after 9/11. Wouldn't surprise me if Romney falls for the same stuff. The neo-con movement is still strong in the party, especially with the younger guys like Ryan and Rubio.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
That's my issue with him... When the primaries started, I though he would be an appealing candidate if you're closer to the center... but once he started the pandering to the base, you start wondering if he's such a weak guy that's going to get run over by the neocons and warhawks around him.
That's a good point. GW ran on a more moderate platform in 2000, but let the hawks around him convince him to take more neocon positions especially after 9/11. Wouldn't surprise me if Romney falls for the same stuff. The neo-con movement is still strong in the party, especially with the younger guys like Ryan and Rubio.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Th'Pusher
I guess I don't understand how you come to the conclusion Romney is the Lesser of two evils because you think he will govern as a moderate when you know for a fact Barry is going to govern like a moderate. Especially WRT foreign policy.
Since when is he governing like a moderate? The NDAA isn't a moderate stance. He's subtly leading this country into a war with Iran. His health care plan isn't a moderate stance.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
I think Romney will be OK. I want to replace Obama as much to get rid of his appointees (Holder, Janet Incompetano, etc. as to get rid of him.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Hornets78
Since when is he governing like a moderate? The NDAA isn't a moderate stance. He's subtly leading this country into a war with Iran. His health care plan isn't a moderate stance.
I guess I think that put in the same situation, Romney would have signed the NDAA as well but without the (useless) signing statement. WRT Iran, I guess you did not hear the bit of saber rattling Romney dropped in his speech last night? Much less subtle than anything Obama is doing. And healthcare? That POS is about as moderate as anything you are going to get assuming you want to do anything about the problem.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Hornets78
I don't like Obama or Romney, and I can't stand neo-cons, but I think Romney is the lesser of two evils
Still evil, still not worthy of anyone's vote.... this kind of thinking has helped derail our political process, tbh....
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
Still evil, still not worthy of anyone's vote.... this kind of thinking has helped derail our political process, tbh....
How's he evil and do you think there is a third, virtuous choice that will take office next January?
If you agree Obama is the greater of two evils, you'd be wise to vote for the lesser because, there isn't another choice this November and any vote not cast for Romney is a vote for Obama...the greater of two evils.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
Still evil, still not worthy of anyone's vote.... this kind of thinking has helped derail our political process, tbh....
He's also gonna do everything Obama did. He's gonna keep the Patriot Act going, he's gonna keep spending hundreds of billions on the military, he's gonna ignore or national deficit and spend on entitlement programs for his voters, he's gonna keep the nation building going in the middle east, etc. Neither one deserves the vote.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Yonivore
How's he evil and do you think there is a third, virtuous choice that will take office next January?
If you agree Obama is the greater of two evils, you'd be wise to vote for the lesser because, there isn't another choice this November and any vote not cast for Romney is a vote for Obama...the greater of two evils.
Actually, I feel comfortable voting for Gary Johnson become iI think Mitt will still win Texas easily.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Yonivore
If you agree Obama is the greater of two evils, you'd be wise to vote for the lesser because, there isn't another choice this November and any vote not cast for Romney is a vote for Obama...the greater of two evils.
As a liberal who lives in Arizona, my vote doesn't count regardless. That didn't stop me from voting for Obama in 2008, but he's done enough stuff that I fundamentally disagree with where he doesn't deserve my vote again. Someone in my shoes isn't exactly casting a vote for Obama by not voting for Romney.
And I think Clipper Nation was saying he doesn't consider either one to be the lesser of two evils. I consider Obama the lesser of two evils, but I've had enough with the Democratic Party never taking a stand on anything or doing anything because they can get votes by saying, "Well at least we're not that guy!"
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
Obama is a neo-con when it comes to foreign policy, lol.
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
Barry and Mitt are basically two legitimate turds on their own right.
I don't see either guy as a lesser evil either... and the people who vote to "get this guy out" and completely overlook that you're putting this other guy in are just missing half the picture and not really voting with conviction, IMO (except for team players, obviously, who are too emotionally invested with the team to really care about what exactly they're voting for).
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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boutons_deux
It's not that Gecko is a felony tax evader (until he proves otherwise) and proven tax liar, nor that he panders "evolves" to whomever is contributing the most, it's that Gecko/Ryan budget strategy are pure bullshit, except if your a 1%er or mega corporation.
romney has paid a lot more in taxes than you
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
If you're going to give Romney nicknames, at least put some effort into it or just call him by his legal name. Gecko? Really? Wall Street? How many hipsters get that reference?
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
Jacob1983
If you're going to give Romney nicknames, at least put some effort into it or just call him by his legal name. Gecko? Really? Wall Street? How many hipsters get that reference?
Must be a child if you don't get the reference. Jab on the spelling. Not the name.
Gordon Gekko
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
DUNCANownsKOBE
As a liberal who lives in Arizona, my vote doesn't count regardless. That didn't stop me from voting for Obama in 2008, but he's done enough stuff that I fundamentally disagree with where he doesn't deserve my vote again. Someone in my shoes isn't exactly casting a vote for Obama by not voting for Romney.
And I think Clipper Nation was saying he doesn't consider either one to be the lesser of two evils. I consider Obama the lesser of two evils, but I've had enough with the Democratic Party never taking a stand on anything or doing anything because they can get votes by saying, "Well at least we're not that guy!"
you going to penalize obama cause he cant get shit done through the senate where his party is the minority there?
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Re: So, Mitt, what do you really believe?
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
you going to penalize obama cause he cant get shit done through the senate where his party is the minority there?
You have that backwards between the senate and house.
Democrats are stalling house legislation in the senate.