:rollinAnd the sheep keep hush hush..on both sides
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:rollinAnd the sheep keep hush hush..on both sides
::crickets::
Sorry, bitch -- already been discussed.
Good video. My brother called and pointed out how HORRIBLE it was what the Dems did; I had to tell him the Republicans did the exact same thing a week earlier.
If that Democrat MC would have gone with his instincts, we could have found a real winner there.
Oh well.
People really believe that Ron Paul supporters made up over a third of the RNC? They may be more vocal, but there weren't that many of them.
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Originally Posted by SA210
I like Michael Garibaldi. He used to have a radio program that aired here in Portland. He makes a good host.
Garibaldi has been compromised by the shadows. That's probably why he has a conservative talk show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra Kai
Why did I mess that?
As for the OP: how can the DNC compromise a nomination that's a done deal? Do any other candidates other than Obama have delegates? There wasn't even a competition. The incumbent party candidate wins the nomination. It's automatic.
I told SA210 the Paultards would be smacked down because they threatened to hijack the convention in a most undemocratic manner. They have no one to blame but themselves and their whiny messiah.
And yeah, the DNC decided to save the convention from itself with the gawd and Israel prostration. Good on them.
I admit it: I love watching the Paulbots whine.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by SA210
I sincerely hope you didn't sink money into this scam
LOL, I like that. The Forward has some interesting history:Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KUbTCNKYR9...in_lemming.jpg
You say that as if our system is democratic (and it's a good thing it isn't)....Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The fact is, Paul supporters played by the rules of our political system and the GOP within the construct of the republican form of government established in the Constitution.... it's a sad, sad day when an attempt to fairly determine the nominee based on the party's own rules is shut down and labeled as "crazy Paultards hijacking the convention," tbh....
Also, keep in mind that these conventions are funded by taxpayer money... if the parties want coronations instead of conventions, they should have to pay for it themselves, tbh...
Why is there even any voting at the conventions on the platforms if the platforms are already determined and the voting is scripted? Seems stupid.
:lol Don't hurt him with knowledge and facts. I wish there was a way I could block his quotes as well though. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
It's tightly scripted, choreographed $how BUS$INE$$, just like the entire, perversely, boringly, unnecessarily long campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob1983
That's why the total fuckup of Clint's speech wasting prime network viewing hour betrayed wonderfully how incompetent, amateur Gecko's campaign is, and how incompetent his WH would be.
The Prez campaign is just another product of TV watchers to sell to advertisers.
lol fairlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
In that case, the rules were fairly determined to be lacking and were changed fairly.
But thank you and SA210 for saying you are against democracy. It's about time you admitted it.
No they weren't, the rules were changed at the last second as soon as Paul became eligible under the old rules, and changed via a rigged voice vote, tbh... nothing about the rule-changing process was fair... and by the way, even neocons are outraged about the shit the RNC pulled this year, because it doesn't just affect Paul supporters, it affects any grassroots in the GOP...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
However, the Paul delegates were legally elected and entitled to their seats at the convention as per the GOP's own rules (although many were disenfranchised, another crook move by the RNC).... no comparison whatsoever...
I am against mob-rule democracy, and proud of it, tbh.... you know who else was? Our founders, and the people who influenced them...Quote:
But thank you and SA210 for saying you are against democracy. It's about time you admitted it.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."The fact is, any system that relies on straw polls are deeply flawed: WAY too much media influence, easily-rigged electronic voting machines, and a system in which 51% of the American public can simply drown out the wishes of the 48% makes no sense, tbh.... a constitutional republic is the way to go...
- Alexander Fraser Tyler
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
- John Adams
"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
- John Marshall
"[Democracy is] two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Benjamin Franklin
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government"
- Article 4 of the Constitution
Eligible for what? Making a bunch of useless distraction for a candidate who came in fourth in actual primary votes cast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
And they were legally removed because they were assholes who were working against the interest of the party.Quote:
However, the Paul delegates were legally elected and entitled to their seats at the convention as per the GOP's own rules (although many were disenfranchised, another crook move by the RNC).... no comparison whatsoever...
Ron Paul was 11% of the 48%. He and his drones demanded far too much than their numbers could ever merit.Quote:
Blah, blah, blah....
The fact is, any system that relies on straw polls are deeply flawed: WAY too much media influence, easily-rigged electronic voting machines, and a system in which 51% of the American public can simply drown out the wishes of the 48% makes no sense, tbh.... a constitutional republic is the way to go...
He failed and his drones compounded his failure by being assholes. I hope he makes an independent run so all of you can fail all over again.
The "interest of the party" shouldn't be a mandate, otherwise, we have tyranny, tbh... and no, the delegates were NOT legally removed...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Apparently, UTSA is too busy teaching rhetorical devices to their students to bother educating you people on our political process, tbh... :lol
Once the candidate is decided upon, it's completely in the interest of the party to jettison the assholes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
NOT legally removed?
What law was broken? Give us the statute.
Apparently, Paulbots are too busy being assholes to realize just how little support their messiah received in the primaries, tbh... :lolQuote:
Apparently, UTSA is too busy teaching rhetorical devices to their students to bother educating you people on our political process, tbh... :lol
Santorum and Gingrich kicked his ass tbh.
The candidate is decided upon at the convention, dumbass...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The Maine delegates won the right to be seated at the convention, and were kicked out for no reason, tbh....Quote:
NOT legally removed?
When you realize that, as a commoner, you have no voice, no say in anything, you will become apathetic to it all and go about your business. Unless you are wealthy enough to attract the attention of either party, you are no one. You don't even have the right to speak at a convention. If you wish to speak, you must do so at a remote area where no one is able to hear you, as that preserves your 1st Amendment rights via loophole and create legal maneuvering and still allows the facade of a two party system to have their WWE style contest. It keeps the sponsors happy, you know, those companies owned mostly by the incredibly wealthy.
We haven't progressed at all in 500 years.
Apathy's definitely the wrong reaction though, as that's the main goal of all the bullshit the elites in both parties pull.... they WANT everyone to stop caring so that they can stay in power and do whatever the hell they want out in the open....
The system of the Electoral College pretty much serves as a firewall against radical change. No one worth a fuck has ever been in office during my lifetime. No one worth a fuck has even been on a ballot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
The entire system is about which group of people get to spread the spoils from our tax dollars to their friends. It's always been that way, even Washington was a piece of shit.
So, I am not about to make believe I am part of some pseudo uprising when any real uprising by the US citizens would be more of a whimper on facebook and a town hall gathering of faggots and emo dikes than anything to raise eyebrows in the world of financial royalty.
Um, no, it just makes presidential candidates have to actually work to get elected, as opposed to just doing a couple campaign stops in New York, Texas, and California and calling it a year, tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Yep, it was Romney, dumbass...Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
Paul never had a chance.
None.
They were kicked out because they were assholes who proclaimed they were going to be assholes.Quote:
The Maine delegates won the right to be seated at the convention, and were kicked out for no reason, tbh....
:lol Typical UTSA Rhetorical Device Crew bads
:lol Still can't grasp the concept of conventions when it's been explained to him a million times
:lol Loves "democracy" but calls people "assholes" for trying to vote at the convention
:lol throwaway lineQuote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
:lol Oh, I know what you think conventions are for. Time for assholes to do whatever they want.Quote:
:lol Still can't grasp the concept of conventions when it's been explained to him a million times
:lol Who said I loved it? I just said you hated it.Quote:
:lol Loves "democracy" but calls people "assholes" for trying to vote at the convention
I was fine with all the delegates voting for the candidates according to the results of the primaries and caucuses. Ron Paul was going to lose anyway. I was also fine with the asshole delegates getting the boot since they stated their sole purpose at the convention was to be a bunch of assholes. I told everyone here it was going to happen and you idiots acted shocked and surprised when it finally did happen.
You're the one defending the RNCheat assholes for doing whatever they wanted, B...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
At the time they changed the rules, Paul had enough pluralities to be nominated from the floor under the old rules.... wrong again, son....Quote:
I was fine with all the delegates voting for the candidates according to the results of the primaries and caucuses. Ron Paul was going to lose anyway.
Quotes?Quote:
I was also fine with the asshole delegates getting the boot since they stated their sole purpose at the convention was to be a bunch of assholes.
Not defending.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
Cheering, perhaps -- just because I knew the reaction that was coming.
:lol See? This is the crap I was waiting for.Quote:
At the time they changed the rules, Paul had enough pluralities to be nominated from the floor under the old rules.... wrong again, son....
:lolQuote:
Quotes?
:lol Throwaway linesQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lol Throwaway line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
Ron Paul got his ass kicked in the primaries, so his worshipers decided to be assholes and they got their asses kicked even worse.
Deservedly so.
No, it actually doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
You are part of the population regardless where you live, only with the electoral college, your vote is now weighted differently if you live in a low population area vs a high population area. That is not equal representation. So contrary to your assertion above, candidates would not be able to ignore certain states under the logic that they are locked already for their opponent. They would not just campaign in swing states. Every vote would matter, as it should.