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I guess you could have a point there. There are a lot of mothers who notice that twenty-six years, seven months and twelve days after they got vaccinated their children started showing signs of autism, and figure that can't be a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantthinkofanything
well...it's not JUST the vaccines. It's the toxic combination of the vaccines, fluoride, and bhps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeland Security
You forgot BPA, the chemtrails, and the 9/11 dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantthinkofanything
not related to autismQuote:
Originally Posted by Homeland Security
Wrong -- BPA, phthalates, automobile exhaust, PCB's, dental floss, and flame retardants are all implicated in the literature.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantthinkofanything
Then there are the things which just haven't been thought if yet, such as the impact of reality TV in the womb, magnetic fields from cell phone towers, Kim Kardashian's negative IQ actually sucking the intelligence out of children, and the experimental mind control drug at Area 51 that accidentally was released into the environment.
haha...now you're just being ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeland Security
That's cool and all, but Africans have been slaughtering and eating chimps for centuries, and scientists now know that chimps have carried SIV for just as long. Why no signs/symptoms of KS or PCP or other unmistakable AIDS symptoms way back then? Hell, even the early part of the 20th century. Bushmeat theory is the weakest throwaway line I've heard of in scientific/medical literature--and I've read just about all of it regarding the origins of AIDS (at least concerning these 2 main theories/hypotheses).Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
It's actually quite a good explanation for the initial transformation from SIV to HIV. After that, it could have been fairly isolated in communities for years or decades until another method of transmitting the virus came out, like injecting millions of people with infected needles.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
Disagree. Once again, it's the timing of it all. The practice of killing and eating chimpanzees has been going on forever. With the bushmeat theory we're assuming that the virus just happened to either remain dormant, or happened only in isolated villages far out of reach from the view of colonial europe for official recognition. It just seems conveniently lame and lazy as an excuse--but sure, like everything else, it's possible I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
OTOH, doctors take ground up chimpanzee cultures and feed it to millions in Central Africa--the vaccination campaign areas matching almost perfectly with HIV outbreak 15-20 years later. Like I said, we'll remain at an impasse on this one, but I appreciate that you at least acknowledge that science/medicine--if nothing else--could very well have accelerated this pandemic.
Or they're assuming it happened to not mutate for several centuries into HIV Or that any initial mutations didn't really get transmitted. Plenty of room for conjecture, but i agree no hard answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
Except there is plenty of evidence HIV existed well before then, and oral transmission doesn't seem terribly likely.Quote:
OTOH, doctors take ground up chimpanzee cultures and feed it to millions in Central Africa--the vaccination campaign areas matching almost perfectly with HIV outbreak 15-20 years later. Like I said, we'll remain at an impasse on this one, but I appreciate that you at least acknowledge that science/medicine--if nothing else--could very well have accelerated this pandemic.
Oral transmission is EXTREMELY rare, already been checked into tee hee.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by mavs>spurs
Given that most of the big killer diseases in USA are almost unheard of in poor countries, where hygiene and corporate pollution of food, air, water, land are much less prevalent, here's scary proposition:
A Messy, Exuberant Case Against Being Too Clean
Moises Velasquez-Manoff - a journalist and also, as it happens, a patient - has fallen hard for an idea known as the hygiene hypothesis, whose implications, if followed out along a widely branching chain of extended supposition, threaten to unravel much of what we think we know about health and disease.
A human being, the proponents of the hypothesis argue, is not really an individual. Instead, each person is a "superorganism," a large creature subsuming many billions of smaller ones, most of them intestinal microbes. Thriving in the colon, these "old friends" that have been with us since time immemorial are as important to our health as a limb or an organ. Altering their numbers, whether with sanitary measures, antibiotics or deworming pills, is analogous to fooling around with the liver or the spleen.
And that doesn't just mean that antibiotics may cause ruinous diarrhea. The microbes in the intestine, the hypothesis holds, educate the immune cells that travel all over the body, and any major alteration in the intestine sends some wild and crazy cells out there to wreak havoc unpoliced.
The genetic and immunologic details behind these assertions are immensely complex, but enough experimental confirmation exists to keep scientists at prestigious institutions around the world deeply engaged in sorting it out.
Other data are equally intriguing. Among them: Allergic and autoimmune conditions are far more frequent in rich countries than poor ones, even among genetically identical populations (West Germany far outpaced East Germany in their frequency, as does Finland compared with an impoverished adjacent territory under Russian control). Societies where intestinal parasites are the rule seem to lack them completely.
A misfiring immune response has long been known to explain conditions like multiple sclerosis and Crohn's disease, a chronic inflammation of the intestine. But some preliminary observations extend the immune connection to illnesses usually considered to be unrelated, obesity and depression among them.
Lisa's Crohn's disease improved with whipworm. Hookworm sent Dan's multiple sclerosis into remission, and likewise Josh's psoriasis. A bad case of chiggers calmed Lawrence's autistic outbursts, and whipworm infusions have improved him further still. The meaning of these isolated cases is entirely unclear, but Mr. Velasquez-Manoff follows the tenuous thread of possibility out to the horizon: Possibly, autism can be averted with something "as simple as a probiotic given to Mom" during pregnancy, he notes. Could the best treatment for depression be "microbes from a donor with a sunny disposition"?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/09/11...sease.xml?f=26
I mean't oral sex not kissing.