* Official Colts 2012 Season Thread sponsored by Andrew Luck's Neck Beard *

Beat the Bears like it's raining in Miami.

Can't wait for the morning. I'm just hoping for good health on both sides of the ball. If Indy can stay healthy they have a pretty under rated team.

Vontae Davis vs Marshall is going to be fun.

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Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs23

Can't wait for the morning. I'm just hoping for good health on both sides of the ball. If Indy can stay healthy they have a pretty under rated team.

Vontae Davis vs Marshall is going to be fun.

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Fuck that. Everyone on the Bears defense can get their ass injured for all I care. I just need Cutler to stay healthy for my fantasy team. Actually fuck him too, I also have Luck on my team. I'm set.

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Originally Posted by J.T.

Fuck that. Everyone on the Bears defense can get their ass injured for all I care. I just need Cutler to stay healthy for my fantasy team. Actually fuck him too, I also have Luck on my team. I'm set.

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My fault, I worded that incorrectly I guess. I meant I want the Colts to stay healthy on offense and defense. Fuck the Bears, although I need Forte for every game except tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs23

My fault, I worded that incorrectly I guess. I meant I want the Colts to stay healthy on offense and defense. Fuck the Bears, although I need Forte for every game except tomorrow.

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Now you're cooking with gas! Maybe the Colts can start a bounty thing, I got $500 for the guy who takes out Peppers.

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Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs23

Can't wait for the morning. I'm just hoping for good health on both sides of the ball. If Indy can stay healthy they have a pretty under rated team.

Vontae Davis vs Marshall is going to be fun.

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:cry wtf :cry

Luck has more yards than Peyton did after 1 game and the same TD:INT. I could have gone for more Colts defenders trying to intentionally injure Bears players, bounty style, but probably too soon for that. Well, now I'm going to get really drunk and see if I can drive around town without getting a DUI.

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Originally Posted by DontStopBelieving

:cry wtf :cry

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My statement was true for Bears fans. Marshall destroyed Indy.

Btw Luck looked like shit. It's going to be a long year for him with that offense.

Donald Brown fucking sucks, and the offensive line is horrid. The only player who played well on O was Wayne....

Bears are still massively butthurt that the Colts beat them they started Rex Grossman in Super Bowl 41. And where the fuck was this Tim Jennings when he played for Indy? Seriously dude was always ten yards off his man and couldn't tackle shit and now he's a stud with the Bears and picked Luck twice today? Way to be a major faggot.

At least the next three games are at home. Hopefully Aaron Rodgers gets hurt before week 5 and we can upset the Packers.

Well, Luck did alright in Week 1 considering the piece of shit offensive line he plays behind and the non-threat of a running game the Colts have. The Colts seriously need to consider passing out of run formations and actually handing off on play action, this sort of bullshit trickery might actually work for them. Donald Brown averages 4.5+ YPC but is a terrible fucking player, does not compute.

To counter this problem the Colts have signed some scro named Trai Essex who played with Pittsburgh under Bruce Arians. He's likely to be better than most of their offensive linemen by virtue of the simple fact that he was not drafted by that faggot Bill Polian who seemingly busted every single pick he made after Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl. Should be an upgrade. Colts should beat the Vikings at home this week. If not they should just go full retard and tank 2012 so they can trade the Matt Barkley draft pick for as many picks as possible and get this rebuild business off the ground.

Bump

Andrew's 1st win and 1st game winning drive. Just gotta get 3 more wins to have a better rookie year than Peyton.

GOAT Tracker (thru Week 2)

Manning '98: 42-70 (60%), 490 yds, 2 TD - 6 INT (1:3 ratio), 0-2 record
Luck '12: 43-76 (57%), 533 yds, 3 TD - 3 INT (1:1 ratio), 1-1 record

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Originally Posted by J.T.

GOAT Tracker (thru Week 2)

Manning '98: 42-70 (60%), 490 yds, 2 TD - 6 INT (1:3 ratio), 0-2 record
Luck '12: 43-76 (57%), 533 yds, 3 TD - 3 INT (1:1 ratio), 1-1 record

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With Jacksonville coming to town next weekend, do the Colts have a shot at matching their 2011 win total by Week 3? If we're comparing Luck and Manning as rookies, Luck only needs 4 wins for a better rookie season. Peyton threw a TON of picks and he threw most of them early, if Luck can settle down and keep turnovers to a minimum, he's on pace to shatter every statistic of Manning's 1998 season.

They should beat the Jags. Gabbert has no business starting for an NFL team.

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Originally Posted by J.T.

GOAT Tracker (thru Week 2)

Manning '98: 42-70 (60%), 490 yds, 2 TD - 6 INT (1:3 ratio), 0-2 record
Luck '12: 43-76 (57%), 533 yds, 3 TD - 3 INT (1:1 ratio), 1-1 record

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Thanks brother. I'm taking all of that busta's records. And expect more than 3 wins.

Luck and Peyton both 1-1 after two weeks with the same TD:INT ratio, only Peyton's a 14 year vet so his picks are worth more. And Luck's entire contract is worth less than what the Colts would have had to pay Manning for 2012 #winning

Coach has leukemia, Packers first in line to get fucked #winoneforcoach

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sour...7216--nfl.html

Im assuming Freeney plays? Any word on Vontae though?

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Originally Posted by J.T.

Coach has leukemia, Packers first in line to get fucked #winoneforcoach

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sour...7216--nfl.html

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Someone gonna answer that phone? 'Cuz I called that.

my buddy from IN went up there and saw the game with his dad in a suite, and drank free the whole game. He is still pumped up

Can the Colts sneak into a WC spot with this remaining schedule:

@NYJ
CLE
@TEN
MIA
@JAX
@NEW
BUF
@ DET
TEN
@HOU
@KC
HOU

When Luck's completion percentage rises, it's gonna be pretty clear as to who the best player from the draft is.

Bumpity Bump

It's been a while. The Great J-Teezy has been busy with two jobs, finishing off the business end of the terms of my DWI conviction and dating a 19 year old (don't judge me, I need this right now). But I have still managed to set my fantasy roster (Sup Lincoln?) and watch the games each week. It's midseason review time. Let's get the articles of statistical relevance out of the way first.

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GOAT Tracker (thru 8 games)
Manning '98 161-292 (55.1%), 1873 yds, 11 TD 16 INT | 1-7 Record
Luck '12 190-336 (56.5%), 2404 yds, 10 TD 8 INT | 5-3 Record

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Ridiculous. I've been high on Luck since the Colts secured the No. 1 pick at the end of last season, but even I didn't expect this. You do have to keep in mind the Colts have the unfortunate but emotional/motivating circumstance of playing for a head coach who has cancer. Don't be fooled though, they're winning games because Luck is a hoss. The silver linings for the Colts so far is that apart from Week 1, they have not once fielded their 11 true starters on defense and Luck has produced those stats at the midway point with virtually no contribution from 2nd round pick Coby Fleener. This is the Colts remaining schedule:

Week 10: at Jaguars (Thursday)
Week 11: at Patriots
Week 12: vs Bills
Week 13: at Lions
Week 14: vs Titans
Week 15: at Texans
Week 16: at Chiefs
Week 17: vs Texans

It's extremely possible that if the upward trend of Luck's development continues, the Colts could only lose to the Patriots in Week 11 and the Texans in Week 15. I know the Colts have played poorly on the road and it's premature to start slotting them for guaranteed road victories, but what Andrew Luck is doing is insane. Lots of people figured 5-11 for Indy would be a solid year. How crazy is it that if the chips all land in the right place, they could flip that around and finish 11-5? Keep in mind the Colts straight gave away that Week 3 loss to Jacksonville. This team should be 6-2 right now. And to play a card I have no shame in playing, if the Annual Houston Texans Mass Injury Disease strikes again, those Week 15 & 17 contests could be for the division crown. Think about that for a second.

As bad as it was to be a Colts fan last year, I almost feel like I was willing to put up for with that for how bright the future is. Being a fan, I totally feel like we're playing with house money right now. After this season, all of the 2011 dead money comes off the books. Any stud FA is likely ours, and Ryan Grigson is likely to follow up his offense-heavy 2012 draft with a defense-heavy 2013 draft (save for maybe blowing the No.1 on an offensive lineman, something I'd probably do if I was in his seat). Speaking of Grigson, that guy has to be the runaway Exec. of the Year winner right now. If Indy clinches a playoff spot, he should win it unanimously. I know drafting Luck is a no-brainer move, but Dwayne Allen and Vick Ballard have been solid and the guy yanked Jerrell Freeman out of the CFL and he's started at LB for the Colts all year. Also leads either the league or the team in tackles right now, can't be bothered to check. If the Colts can get Josh Chapman back and he can produce anything on the defensive line, it will be another egg in Grigson's Executive of the Year basket. Chapman currently is on the non-football injury list and has two weeks to get promoted to the active roster or he's stuck there for all of 2012.

Luck needs one more 300 yard game and he takes down Peyton's 1998 record of most 300 yard games by a rookie QB. If he simply doubles his current stats in the second half of the season, he'll break Newton's rookie QB yardage record by about 750 yards. If he steps up his game even more, we could be talking about a rookie QB throwing for 5,000 yards. What the fuck? Another thing I should touch on is the hire of Bruce Arians as offensive coordinator in the offseason. I think without him, Luck doesn't progress this quickly. Quality move picking up the guy who trained both Peyton and Big Ben. His playcalling has been spotty at times but yesterday he called a fantastic game and he's 4-1 since taking over, can't really complain about that. He's going to need to go into Jacksonville on Thursday and coach an "Eff You" game though, Blaine Gabbert should be throwing 80 yard TD passes against absolutely no one and it's time to make the Glitter Kittens pay for that.

Luck is the most complete QB I've ever seen. Height, arm strength, decision-making, mobility, accuracy, poise. He can do it all. No one expected the Colts to be 5-3. Everyone said RG3 has a better team around him. Not saying Luck is the sole reason why, but he's a big reason and making all the doubters look foolish.

Bump

Before the season, I said the Colts win loss window was between 7-9 and 9-7 depending on a few swing games going their way. Indianapolis currently sits at 7-4 with five to play. Here's their remaining schedule:

Week 13: at Lions
Week 14: vs Titans
Week 15: at Texans
Week 16: at Chiefs
Week 17: vs Texans

They've got an excellent shot at finishing 10-6 and being the NFL's WTF story of the year, if they aren't already. If they take care of business against the Lions this week, which is a tall order since it's a road game and they play catastrophically worse on the road, they'll probably reach double digit wins. There's an outside shot that they can win out though, or finish at 11-5. Houston currently has a two game lead over all other AFC division leaders by virtue of record and head-to-head tiebreakers. They play the Patriots in Week 14, and with a win would have a tiebreaker and virtual three game lead over everyone in the conference with three to play. The Texans, until this year, almost routinely had major players on the injury report late in the season and you've got to think they might try to play it safe after clinching. I still think they'll play to win in Week 15, but by that last Week 17 game in Indianapolis, I think we'll see the 1's play a series and then go to the bench. The Colts have an excellent shot at keeping Houston winless in Indy if that happens, and with Super Bowl aspirations I think the Texans will wait to attempt to break that streak in 2013.

It's amazing what this team has done this year. While a sad story, Pagano getting diagnosed with leukemia is the best thing that could have happened to the Colts this year. The tape and the stats clearly don't show a winning team, but yet something else seems to drive this team to win every week. Even if they clinch a wild card spot, they'll have to go on the road and will probably be one and done but brace yourself for this possible scenario:

If Indy clinches a WC, Luck's first playoff game could very well be against Peyton and the Broncos. That's basically my realistic fantasy end to our season.

My homer end to the season is make playoffs as the #5, W at Broncos, W at Patriots, W at Texans, W Super Bowl XLVII vs Giants. Luck greatest QB of all time after one season.

That road to a SB would make the Giants run last year look like an SEC out of conference schedule.

I pretty much agree w/ JT. They should beat Tennessee and KC, chances of them beating the Texans are slim, so it'll come down to Detroit whether or not they reach 10 wins.

Doesn't matter that much tho since 9-7 will get them a playoff birth which is damn impressive.

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That road to a SB would make the Giants run last year look like an SEC out of conference schedule.

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Notre Dame and Colts winning championships in the same season... Maybe the world really is going to explode next month so it doesn't happen

I'd also just like to go on record and say that, yes, I did used to verbally suck Peyton Manning's dick on this forum on an almost hourly basis... but the guy went one and done a lot in the playoffs and currently has a losing record in postseason play. If there's any team above Indy in the standings that I want in the wild card round, it's Denver.

Denver imo is the easy AFC favorite right now. Houston is the team I see losing early. Mediocre pass rush on D and a run first offense doesn't win in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Denver imo is the easy AFC favorite right now. Houston is the team I see losing early. Mediocre pass rush on D and a run first offense doesn't win in the NFL.

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tbh I think we're looking at another Giants vs Patriots Super Bowl.

Knew that winning the division was a pipe dream but glad to see the Colts play the Texans competitively in a game they constantly screwed themselves with penalties and Andrew Luck was getting manhandled by Watt & Friends the whole time. That's a very bright silver lining. I think the Colts can beat Houston in Indianapolis in Week 17 with or without Houston benching its first teamers for the postseason. We'll see, the Niners beating the Pats last week was a gift from God. I believe one Colts win or one Steelers loss puts Indy in the postseason, but the two WC spots are between Indy, Pit and Cincy right now so there's a very good chance the Colts get in. Amazing season to go from No. 1 draft pick to playoffs.

Chuck Pagano will resume duties as Indianapolis Colts head coach on Monday morning.

If Colts win they go to the playoffs right?

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Knew that winning the division was a pipe dream but glad to see the Colts play the Texans competitively in a game they constantly screwed themselves with penalties and Andrew Luck was getting manhandled by Watt & Friends the whole time. That's a very bright silver lining. I think the Colts can beat Houston in Indianapolis in Week 17 with or without Houston benching its first teamers for the postseason. We'll see, the Niners beating the Pats last week was a gift from God. I believe one Colts win or one Steelers loss puts Indy in the postseason, but the two WC spots are between Indy, Pit and Cincy right now so there's a very good chance the Colts get in. Amazing season to go from No. 1 draft pick to playoffs.

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Definitely since Houston has never won there anyway.

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If Colts win they go to the playoffs right?

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Yup.

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If Colts win they go to the playoffs right?

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If the Colts win this week, they clinch the #5 wild card spot. They actually have a 99.97% chance of still making the postseason even if they lose Week 16 and Week 17. Something like 14 different games have to play out a certain way (affects Strength of Schedule and Strength of Victory tiebreakers) and if any one of them doesn't, the Colts are in. Out of one million simulations, they missed the playoffs four times.

Its kinda crazy that the Colts could put themselves in a position to rest their starters in Week 17:lol

[email protected] would actually be a fun matchup, and a winnable one for Indy.

Luck has led 7-GW drives this year. Pretty insane.

JT, gonna be pulling for your team this next Sunday. They win, and the Pats win, Pats get the 2nd seed, and 1st if Broncos rest their starters.

Texans are lucky that the Colts may rest their starters next week.

However, wouldn't surprise me at all if the Colts go all out to ruin a divisional rivals homefield advantage. Texans could go from the top seed to 3rd seed if they lose next week.

Colts need to rest Luck...they are locked into the 5 seed and he's taken a beating lately. Give him and Reggie a rest, play the rest.

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JT, gonna be pulling for your team this next Sunday. They win, and the Pats win, Pats get the 2nd seed, and 1st if Broncos rest their starters.

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Don't do it, buddy. Rooting for a hated rival to help you out for postseason position can result in not getting the taste out of your mouth for a while.

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Originally Posted by Deadly Dynasty

Colts need to rest Luck...they are locked into the 5 seed and he's taken a beating lately. Give him and Reggie a rest, play the rest.

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Agree with this. Was looking at stats and it appeared Wayne needed 3 rec to get to 100 but those didn't account for yesterday and Wayne's got 102 on the season. Both probably play a drive and go to the bench, I'd maybe play Luck until he gets sacked which shouldn't take long, just to keep some in-game rhythm with the other receivers going. The KC game was a bad day for the Colts passing offense, dunno if you want that to be the results you got the last time you tried to pass to win a game.

I get the rhythm thing, but its not as bad as the stats make it look. Luck started with a horrific 11 of 28 passing and 135-140 yds. On his last drive he was 6/7 for 55-60 yds, a few key 3rd down conversions, and a td. The Colts have no stake in the final game, but Houston will be going all out for the #1 seed. Furthermore, Watt will be gunning for the record, and he destroyed that o-line last week. Not worth risking the franchise over imo

Right now the Colts have about as favorable a playoff path as you can ask for, no need to mess with it. Even though they'll likely be 10-pt dogs to Baltimore, it's still a winnable game b/c of the Flacco factor. After that, you get Houston who has looked sketchy at best lately. The Colts will also have had 2 recent looks at the Texans to draw from. After that it's hopeless, but the goal is to avoid Brady and Manning for as long as possible, imo. Path of least resistance, etc.

Beating the Texans in Week 17 would actually make their path harder, in addition to risking unnecessary injury.

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Don't do it, buddy. Rooting for a hated rival to help you out for postseason position can result in not getting the taste out of your mouth for a while.

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But... bye seed! Must... root...

Colts have announced they will not be resting starters against Houston, per Pagano himself. Game on, fuckers. Get the W and block Watt from the sacks record. Glad Patriots fans will be able to experience rooting for the ChuckStrong Colts this weekend, probably the most amazing sports story I've ever witnessed. Hope Luck pulls another GW drive out of his ass to keep the Moo Cows winless in Indiana.

Also Luck was egregiously snubbed from the Pro Bowl (should have made it over Schaub for sure) so time to shove some Pro Bowl ballots right up the asses of the people who cast them.

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Colts have announced they will not be resting starters against Houston, per Pagano himself. Game on, fuckers. Get the W and block Watt from the sacks record. Glad Patriots fans will be able to experience rooting for the ChuckStrong Colts this weekend, probably the most amazing sports story I've ever witnessed. Hope Luck pulls another GW drive out of his ass to keep the Moo Cows winless in Indiana.

Also Luck was egregiously snubbed from the Pro Bowl (should have made it over Schaub for sure) so time to shove some Pro Bowl ballots right up the asses of the people who cast them.

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And now for my fan's take on this news. If that's what the Colts want to do, I'm behind the decision. This is far different from 2009 when the Colts had a veteran ball club and Bill Polian wanted to keep them healthy for the playoffs. This is a young team and they need the reps whether or not the game means anything. Going into the playoffs with a W over the Texans will indeed make their path to the Super Bowl a lot tougher as it will guarantee a meeting with Manning or Brady like DD said, but if you want to go to the Super Bowl in the AFC, you're gonna have to beat one of those guys anyway. Dropping Houston to the 3 seed means you might have to play both of them, but like I said earlier my circle jerk Colts fantasy for this year would be defeating Manning & Brady to go to the Super Bowl so fuck it, why not.

Also I think Pagano needs to try to win this game because why even come back now if you're not trying to win. The whole year they've been playing with a "win one for Chuck" mentality. Now it's "win one with Chuck"

#chuckstrong is about to fuck it all up for his team.

arians is the true leader this team needs and if #chuckstrong cared about his players he'd fall back and let arians run the show.

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#chuckstrong is about to fuck it all up for his team.

arians is the true leader this team needs and if #chuckstrong cared about his players he'd fall back and let arians run the show.

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As long as Arians still gets to call the plays on offense I don't see this really being a problem. Greg Manusky has done an okay job as defensive coordinator this year, but I think the defense will get a lift from Pagano coaching them on game day. I say don't fuck with what Arians has done for Andrew Luck in the offense and coach the side of the ball Jim Irsay recruited you specifically for. Colts will be aight if they do that. As the 2006 Colts proved, you can suck dick on defense all year and turn it on in the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. Just gotta go all out for four games.

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Originally Posted by J.T.

As long as Arians still gets to call the plays on offense I don't see this really being a problem. Greg Manusky has done an okay job as defensive coordinator this year, but I think the defense will get a lift from Pagano coaching them on game day. I say don't fuck with what Arians has done for Andrew Luck in the offense and coach the side of the ball Jim Irsay recruited you specifically for. Colts will be aight if they do that. As the 2006 Colts proved, you can suck dick on defense all year and turn it on in the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. Just gotta go all out for four games.

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who do you think would be the better head coach for this team?

i think arians has already won over the majority of the team.

a lot of teams will be calling inquiring about him being their HC after the season.

it would be a bad PR move to fire #chuckstrong after they milked his sickness for what it was worth but it makes the most sense.

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who do you think would be the better head coach for this team?

i think arians has already won over the majority of the team.

a lot of teams will be calling inquiring about him being their HC after the season.

it would be a bad PR move to fire #chuckstrong after they milked his sickness for what it was worth but it makes the most sense.

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I agree that messing with it would be a bad idea, but that's why Arians should still work the offense. It's a much similar situation to Sean Payton having to miss time last season and Pete Carmichael doing so well calling plays that he got to keep doing it. Arians is not a defensive coach, but Chuck is. So I say let Chuck coach as the head coach and work the defense, but let Arians handle coaching Luck and the offense. Arians himself said that when Chuck was healthy enough to come back it would be his team again, the Colts have played this entire season with Chuck coming back to coach as the goal and now it's real. He should coach.