Stupid Muslims around the world protest stupid video

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Let's say a fringe group in the US... Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street, whoever... started protesting violently against a foreign enemy. Some killings occur as a result of these protests, other violence and acts of vandalism are rampant, and images of angry mobs are broadcast around the world.

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Sounds good, when do we go after the [email protected] fearless leader?

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Really people? Really? You're going to protest in several different countries because a movie was made that is obviously meant to antagonize? It's a horrible, MST3K-worthy movie, that was likely overdubbed with antagonistic comments. What the hell are you protesting? The fact that someone made a shitty video? No government anywhere is backing this up, you fucking retards.

It's times like these where my inner devil says, "Why the fuck are we trying to help these morons? It's useless."

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^ so this how white people act when they really get mad :lol that soft nigga coming outta you dawg...:lol

but Lng I would give them pass...think about it for sec....:lol they have reason to be mad

here's my hook line: "You'd Be Mad Too If":

• You lived in squalor every day in a dusty miserable ass town/country
• It was hot as fuck in your town, water was scarce and you had to wear head scarves and hot dresses all fucking day
• You couldn't go online and simply decide which NBA game you were going to on any given night
• If you had to keep a gallon of water by the bedside to cool you off after fucking
• If your head would get chopped off for getting a little extra pussy on the side
• If the women smelled all gotdam funky because they couldn't bath regularly

these are just some reasons..but they literally have nothing worth-while to do..they're fucking bored outta their minds...and when you have large groups of fucking bored ass and stanky people shit is gonna down..why? because bored ass and stanky ass people loves a fucking riot..that shit is fun when you ain't got shit else going on...:lol

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Sure, protest against that. But don't protest against a fucking movie, that no one in America is actually watching. That's fucking stupid, and makes you look retarded. No wait, that doesn't make you LOOK retarded, it makes you retarded.

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Sure if you put a movie outside of the context of US relations with the people who live in the middle east then you would have a point but you're seperating the event form the world around it.

When Darrin posts a youtube do you view it as a youtube or do you view it as another youtube in the line of idiocy that Darrin has been spewing for years?

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Originally Posted by Juggity

The solution, I think, is to let go of the middle east, but remain vigilant and involved in world affairs. The bad will the US has accrued among Muslims due to the Iraq invasion and perceived meddling is pretty much irreversible.

These people need to be left to their own devices to sort themselves out. For a while, that will not stop the animosity toward the US, and terrorist groups will look to take revenge for the incursions of the last decade, which is why the US will need to remain vigilant on its own shores, and if needed in allied countries. But the continuing military presence in the Middle East is not solving problems, it is creating them. The only place there ought to be military presence now is at US embassies, which is technically US territory anyway.

I have confidence in the possibility that, like most of the rest of the world, the Middle East will self-correct if left to fester on its own for a significant period of time. People of the region will see the squalor and backwardness of their way of life as the rest of the world moves forward, and will strive for something better, which may be found as an example in China or in the west.

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I understand rioting because your life sucks. Heck, I'd understand rioting if a politician said something. But it's a movie that no one in the US cares about. And if it was just one country, ok, some weirdos. But there have been protests in six or seven countries, including a few countries that are supposedly friendly to us.

Fucking idiots. To use your analogy Spurm, if a group of wackos here in the US overran the British Embassy because they watched a Mr Bean movie and found it offensive that he destroyed the Mona Lisa, I'd be saying they're a bunch of fucking morons too.

"wackos here in the US overran the British Embassy because they watched a Mr Bean movie"

but if the Brits had been helping drug cartels hosing down USA for decades, and the Brits had invaded and occupied TX and CA for oil, with Brit drones murdering US resistance in the other states, then there would be long-standing US power-der key of hatred of the Brits.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"wackos here in the US overran the British Embassy because they watched a Mr Bean movie"

but if the Brits had been helping drug cartels hosing down USA for decades, and the Brits had invaded and occupied TX and CA for oil, with Brit drones murdering US resistance in the other states, then there would be long-standing US power-der key of hatred of the Brits.

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This is a suprisingly good analogy by you B_D and I understand that you are saying that because of this, while their actions are horrible, if you put yourself in their shoes, you couldn't say that you or anyone here would act much differently.

Which is why:

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Originally Posted by Drachen

I have to say that we can't possibly switch energy sources soon enough

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Originally Posted by Juggity

The solution, I think, is to let go of the middle east, but remain vigilant and involved in world affairs. The bad will the US has accrued among Muslims due to the Iraq invasion and perceived meddling is pretty much irreversible.

These people need to be left to their own devices to sort themselves out. For a while, that will not stop the animosity toward the US, and terrorist groups will look to take revenge for the incursions of the last decade, which is why the US will need to remain vigilant on its own shores, and if needed in allied countries. But the continuing military presence in the Middle East is not solving problems, it is creating them. The only place there ought to be military presence now is at US embassies, which is technically US territory anyway.

I have confidence in the possibility that, like most of the rest of the world, the Middle East will self-correct if left to fester on its own for a significant period of time. People of the region will see the squalor and backwardness of their way of life as the rest of the world moves forward, and will strive for something better, which may be found as an example in China or in the west.

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Oh and the stupid Coptic Christian who made the stupid video being protested by stupid muslims is probably going to jail. As a part of his probation for ID theft and Bank Fraud he is not allowed to access the internet or have someone access it on his behalf.

Now they are trying to attack the US consulate in Austrailia.

Why does Ln act like 2016 hasn't been a major hit at the box offices?

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Fucking idiots. To use your analogy Spurm, if a group of wackos here in the US overran the British Embassy because they watched a Mr Bean movie and found it offensive that he destroyed the Mona Lisa, I'd be saying they're a bunch of fucking morons too.

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I absolutely agree that they're morons. What I take offense to is the "Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out" crowd.

if they dont like it gtfo

fkn wankers wanting sharia law introduced to westernize civilization, why not go back where u come from where the country still lives like its in the ice ages...

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"wackos here in the US overran the British Embassy because they watched a Mr Bean movie"

but if the Brits had been helping drug cartels hosing down USA for decades, and the Brits had invaded and occupied TX and CA for oil, with Brit drones murdering US resistance in the other states, then there would be long-standing US power-der key of hatred of the Brits.

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Understood... but then BITCH ABOUT THAT SHIT! :lol Why is a stupid movie the straw that breaks the camel's back?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/...ain/index.html

Ok, so what's the excuse for this? Last time I checked, we haven't taken over Australia... nope, just some more fucking idiots.

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Carrying signs that read: "Obama, Obama, we like Osama" and "Behead All Those Who Insult the Prophet," hundreds of protesters gathered on the steps of the consulate.

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These fuckers can get shot for all I care. If anything, this shows the futility of trying to help these backwards ass morons. Pull out and let them fight amongst themselves like the idiots they are. They can kill each other over whether Muhammad liked tea or coffee.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Understood... but then BITCH ABOUT THAT SHIT! :lol Why is a stupid movie the straw that breaks the camel's back?

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Because you analogy is wrong. It's not about a cultural icon (Whistler's mother in the Bean movie) it's about an absolute rule of their religion.

Let say you made a movie where Jesus was depicted as a surgeon in an abortion clinic, and then use that movie to promote your brand new abortion clinic.

Would you feel completely safe? Do you think there's a good chance of massive demonstration at the clinic? Some of them violent maybe? Would you feel a little responsible for the violence/damage caused by the demonstrations?

It's about understanding the gravity of the insult and what a normal reaction to a perceived insult is in their civilization. I don't condone it, but I don't play dumb like the authors and claim that I didn't know what would happen.

The problem is because the middle east restricted freedom from the beginnings. It prevents opinions and progress to develop. See America was born for freedom, to be free from British rule and established laws to keep freedom reign, such as free speech, religion and whatnot. Imagine if the American government made it illegal to speak against slavery, that it can bring death upon you.I seriously seriously doubt we'd have a black president today.

The answer is simple, the middle eastern countries need to tear down everything and let freedom ring. This will be difficult because they see in America that same sex people are now fighting to get married. I bet that is horrifying to them.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

These fuckers can get shot for all I care. If anything, this shows the futility of trying to help these backwards ass morons. Pull out and let them fight amongst themselves like the idiots they are. They can kill each other over whether Muhammad liked tea or coffee.

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Agreed.... they clearly don't want our help, and half the time, our government's idea of "help" backfires anyway, tbh... this is what happens when you waste billions on an unsustainable interventionist foreign policy with no real goal or exit strategy....

Truth is, and no one wants to admit it, secular dictators like Hussein and Quadaffi are the best thing we can hope for in the middle east. They both modernized their countries more than anyone else ever has, and their brutal methods were the only way to prevent total anarchy erupting in a region dominated by a religion with millennium-old beliefs. Removing those two was the most idiotic thing America could have possibly done in its "War on Terror". The day when every country in the middle east is controlled by a Hussein or Quadaffi should be a day America longs for. They both did more "nation building" than we ever will in the region.

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Originally Posted by Slomo

Because you analogy is wrong. It's not about a cultural icon (Whistler's mother in the Bean movie) it's about an absolute rule of their religion.

Let say you made a movie where Jesus was depicted as a surgeon in an abortion clinic, and then use that movie to promote your brand new abortion clinic.

Would you feel completely safe? Do you think there's a good chance of massive demonstration at the clinic? Some of them violent maybe? Would you feel a little responsible for the violence/damage caused by the demonstrations?

It's about understanding the gravity of the insult and what a normal reaction to a perceived insult is in their civilization. I don't condone it, but I don't play dumb like the authors and claim that I didn't know what would happen.

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I'd expect a few weirdos to protest, maybe even cause violence. But I wouldn't expect weirdos in numerous countries to protest in the hundreds... because frankly, that'd be stupid.

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Originally Posted by Creepn

The problem is because the middle east restricted freedom from the beginnings. It prevents opinions and progress to develop. See America was born for freedom, to be free from British rule and established laws to keep freedom reign, such as free speech, religion and whatnot. Imagine if the American government made it illegal to speak against slavery, that it can bring death upon you.I seriously seriously doubt we'd have a black president today.

The answer is simple, the middle eastern countries need to tear down everything and let freedom ring. This will be difficult because they see in America that same sex people are now fighting to get married. I bet that is horrifying to them.

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While I agree with you, this didn't happen in America until the main religion in America (Christianity) was roughly 1700 years old. They didn't have the advantage of the rapid development of industry, education and consequently democracy that the West had. Actually the western colonist (UK) kept them back for centuries. I'm not making excuses, I'm just trying to say that we need to understand the situation correctly to address it correctly.

If people want to nuke'em, then do it for the right reasons not because of a feeling of self importance.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

I'd expect a few weirdos to protest, maybe even cause violence. But I wouldn't expect weirdos in numerous countries to protest in the hundreds... because frankly, that'd be stupid.

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OK now we're debating numbers.

We now agree that they protest and do generally stupid stuff because they are offended. So is it possible to imagine an insult that would bring the majority of American into the streets? I think it is doable. Well apparently such an insult is even easier to find for the Muslims.

It's a fact and your or my opinion can not change that fact.

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Originally Posted by Slomo

OK now we're debating numbers.

We now agree that they protest and do generally stupid stuff because they are offended. So is it possible to imagine an insult that would bring the majority of American into the streets? I think it is doable. Well apparently such an insult is even easier to find for the Muslims.

It's a fact and your or my opinion can not change that fact.

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Yes, it's a fact that there are obviously a lot of stupid Muslims. If there were a bunch of people protesting and causing violence because of a movie, they'd be stupid too. And you know? No one is even WATCHING this fucking movie. Passion of the Christ pissed a lot of people off, but no one got killed, and it didn't cause riots in multiple countries. Hell, we've had works of art that show Jesus in a bucket of piss, and no one has died because of it.

Yes, it's about numbers, and yes, it's about the stupidity of what they're rioting about.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Yes, it's a fact that there are obviously a lot of stupid Muslims. If there were a bunch of people protesting and causing violence because of a movie, they'd be stupid too. And you know? No one is even WATCHING this fucking movie. Passion of the Christ pissed a lot of people off, but no one got killed, and it didn't cause riots in multiple countries. Hell, we've had works of art that show Jesus in a bucket of piss, and no one has died because of it.

Yes, it's about numbers, and yes, it's about the stupidity of what they're rioting about.

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Don't limit yourself to film and/or even religious insults - they are probably not strong enough in the West.
As long as we understand the reason of their "stupidity" we can handle/address it. A smarter handling is a cheaper and safer solution for us than what some of the people here (and over there) are proposing. If we are so much smarter and more evolved - let's behave as such.