Stupid Muslims around the world protest stupid video

A Slomo sighting?

this is win TOTW easy!

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Truth is, and no one wants to admit it, secular dictators like Hussein and Quadaffi are the best thing we can hope for in the middle east. They both modernized their countries more than anyone else ever has, and their brutal methods were the only way to prevent total anarchy erupting in a region dominated by a religion with millennium-old beliefs. Removing those two was the most idiotic thing America could have possibly done in its "War on Terror". The day when every country in the middle east is controlled by a Hussein or Quadaffi should be a day America longs for. They both did more "nation building" than we ever will in the region.

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This x1000. They may have mistreated their citizens but that's gonna happen no matter who's in power over there. At least they kept the extremist fuckheads at bay.

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Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown

Is this what "moderate" Islam looks like?

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You do realize that 50 years ago in the us we were singling out left handers and forcing them to become right handers because"it was evil".

The difference being that they JUST threw out their brutal dictators.

Meanwhile, we don't have to be there for their evolution.

We won't let go of the ME as long as Israel continues to be occupied by the Jews. The bulk of the wealth in the US and possibly the world is owned and/or managed by Jews, and wealth controls policy and always has.

Why have a world war when you can make as much money off scattered skirmishes? Defense contractors are making billions off these things. If we Ron Pauled it out of there on every foreign soil, the defense industry would collapse. Big money begets big money.

The dog and pony show that is the media release snippets is doing its job by garnering support for troops abroad and more and better surveillance and fewer domestic freedoms in the name of safety.

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Truth is, and no one wants to admit it, secular dictators like Hussein and Quadaffi are the best thing we can hope for in the middle east. They both modernized their countries more than anyone else ever has, and their brutal methods were the only way to prevent total anarchy erupting in a region dominated by a religion with millennium-old beliefs. Removing those two was the most idiotic thing America could have possibly done in its "War on Terror". The day when every country in the middle east is controlled by a Hussein or Quadaffi should be a day America longs for. They both did more "nation building" than we ever will in the region.

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I agree with a lot in your post. The problem with Quadaffi type dictators is that the people sought refuge in religion as a protest/opposition to the dictator. Ideally they will one day realize that they exchanged one dictator for another and try another (secular) option.
Not holding my breath though, because the time required for these sorts of changes is usually measured in generations rather than years.

People need a history lesson with Iran and US relations on why the US shouldn't be supporting dictators. Its extremely short sighted and much of the reason why we're in this predicament to begin with.

The fact is that you can't control the god damn people of the world and you can't manipulate every situation in the world to YOUR benefit. When you try you just cause eventual blowback.