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The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.
Why for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Do you think those people will now not vote for Romney because of his comments?
The sad thing is, I'm willing to bet a majority of that 47% are Republicans, and they will still vote for Romney.
lol why he snitching, when he does the same thing?
None.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
He's spot on.
Somewhere between 47% to 48% have no federal tax liability, and will vote for all tax increases because they are not affected. In fact, any time these tax increases are said to aid them in any way...
They are bought.
They are just whores for the democrats.
Billshit. It's only going to piss off people who will not vote for him anyway. He's preaching to the choir.Quote:
Originally Posted by scott
I agree some wealthy don't pay taxes for one reason or another, but there is an IRS statistic that this number comes from. 47%+ of income tax filers pay no federal income tax, and many of them get more money back than they had taken out.
Ummm are you referring to the same men who paid into those very programs for 50 years? Why the fuck shouldn't they receive it now that it's their turn?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
list the demonizing ineptitudes of Obama's first 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
The evasive, secretive Gecko, very carefully, said he paid 13% in taxes, NOT income taxes. And I bet he used the amnesty on his Swiss bank accounts. He's a felony tax evader, until he proves otherwise. But he criminalizes the poor like every excellent 1%er.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Gecko says he paid all the taxes he was required to pay. Well, those 47% did the same. It's OK for Gecko, but not OK for the 47%.
WC's flat tax of 25% would apply to mininum wagers.
He said he paid a minimum of 13%, and I think he was referring to federal income tax. Besides, who cares but jealous whinetards?Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Who cares? It's stupid not to diversify.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
How many times a day do you "Hail Hitler?"Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
I agree. Our tax system is fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Link...
Romney Stands By Controversial Comments, Claims He Says The Same Thing In Public
At a hastily arranged press conference on Monday night, Romney stood by controversial comments he made at a private fundraiser in May, saying that his remarks were “not elegantly stated” and spoken “off the cuff.” “This is something I talk about a good deal in rallies and speeches and so forth,” Romney claimed, adding “The president’s approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes.”
In May, Romney told wealth donors that “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims… [M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives”
The former Massachusetts governor took just three questions, walking away when asked if his claims that almost half of Americans see themselves as “victims” represent his “core convictions” and what he believes. From reporter Holly Bailey, who was on the scene:
Romney made the original comments at the “Boca Raton home of private-equity executive Marc Leder on May 17.” Leder, is the co-CEO of the private equity firm Sun Capital, which has a reputation for bankrupting companies in the pursuit of profit. “Since 2008, some 25 of its companies — roughly one of every five it owns — have filed for bankruptcy.” Not only that, but the company was accused by the federal Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) just a few months ago of intentionally pushing a company into bankruptcy in order to avoid paying workers’ pensions.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ive-in-public/
So your infamous flat tax ain't so flat after all? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Just saw on twitter that the Romney campaign is so dead the Mormons just baptized it.
I believe I have mentioned 17%.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
So you want every minimum wager to pay 17% income tax + 6.5% SS?
And still pay the rent and food and gas?
While the 1% pays 15% on capital gains, with their SS capped? :lol
I don't know what the best system is. I would at this point prefer to do away with SS, medicare, and all income type taxation. Replace it with a national sales tax of about 16% on everything not considered an essential. Poor people would then pay no taxes if they could only buy the essential. I would entertain a sales luxury tax of the more uncommon items like sports cars, boats, airplanes, etc. though I don't think it's necessary.
The 17% number would be a flat tax if you did an income style tax with say a $30,000 deductible.
wow..you guys really don't know how to win elections...:lol remember Bush won election as a result of hanging chads down in Florida...other than that if Obama wins re-election you guys probably won't even sniff the white house again for at least 24 yrs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
2012 - Obama likely gets 2 terms = 8 yrs
2016 - Next the first white woman...No one will beat Hillary. She will likely get 2 terms as well
2024 - Then we're looking at the first Mexican Man in Julian Castro. Mexicans will push him over the top and he'll likely get 2 terms especially with whites becoming the minority in 2020.
2032 - First Black woman president. Michelle Obama will likely serve one term.
2036 is the first chance a Repub will have to legitimately take the WH back.
I know it sucks to look at that Math but it's true..Your party has pretty much had their run of racism hicks controlling the country...good riddance :toast
Bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
Someone tried to take the Florida electoral votes away from Bush. The Supreme Court ruling was that Florida had to follow it's election laws. It had nothing to do with chads. Demonrats were trying to circumvent the Florida law to throw the election.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I donated 2k to Obama's re-election campaign..plus I'm involved in PAC work. I've sent money to an "Acorn like" club in Florida and Iowa to help Obama pull those States out..I'm doing all I can to help educate seniors and encourage the get out and vote message..We have to win this one it's crucial for the positive / progressive direction of the country.
We cannot let Repubs take this country back...back to the 1950's...walk with me now Wild Cobra or your voice and message will be irrelevant for at least 25yrs
So you are helping to destroy this nation.
fifyQuote:
Originally Posted by KoolSpur_Fan
Nice collectivism, btw.... very "positive and progressive" of you, Extra Stout... :lol
so Romney votes for Obama?
some things I will never really understand about you Americans.
You LieQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Read the Supreme Court ruling please.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux