Romney: Obama voters don't pay income taxes

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Originally Posted by DMX7

Is the 3% proposed tax hike for households earning greater than $250K the class warfare you're referring to?

So far, only one campaign has actually come out and said that approximately half the country is made up of free-loading bums and that half is voting for Obama.

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I am referring to the party that tells me that even though I write out checks with two to three digits in front of a comma I don't seem to be paying my fair share. I take that to mean class warfare. Especially when a small percentage of the population covers the federal income tax.

I am all in favor of paying more in taxes if someone would get serious about paying down the deficit. Right now I see no difference between red team and blue team. They both offer gimmicks and are afraid to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done because doing so, or telling the truth makes them unelectable.

The way I look at it, until that party/politician comes along, I will vote for the person that promises to take the least of my money so that I can pass it down to my kids, whose back we are weighing down with our current spending.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Team Red was against it before they were for it.

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I am glad we both agree.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

good question, CG. to me it seems he was better in the primaries at giving very little away and avoiding dumb comments. now it seems like he's falling over his own feet and flailing a bit.

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I think his opponents made so many dumb comments that it kind of allowed him to sit back and be the inevitable candidate. He made his share of gaffs like I like to fire people, which was taken out of context, but was a gaff nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by elbamba

I am referring to the party that tells me that even though I write out checks with two to three digits in front of a comma I don't seem to be paying my fair share. I take that to mean class warfare. Especially when a small percentage of the population covers the federal income tax.

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You're paying $100,000+ in federal income taxes?

Romney Surrogate: 47% Remark Was Intended For ‘Business People’

On Tuesday morning, former Maryland Gov. Bob Ehrlich (R) was one of the few Mitt Romney surrogates to discuss the recently uncovered video showing the former Massachusetts governor referring to 47 percent of Americans as “victims” and “dependent upon government.”

During an appearance on MSNBC, Ehrlich explained that the inarticulate comments as remarks “to a bunch of business people about tax cuts because these folks care about tax cuts.” “When you’re human, you make comments,” he explained. “When you’re off the record, at a private event, you are less careful than when you are at a public event.” He went on to say that the statements are “unimportant” to “what really matters to people.”

http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...siness-people/

This is how the 1% and UCA talk among themselves, eg, "everybody but us are Randian moochers to be criminalized for not being .... us!" :lol

“When you’re human, you make comments” :lol

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Originally Posted by elbamba

I am referring to the party that tells me that even though I write out checks with two to three digits in front of a comma I don't seem to be paying my fair share.

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:wow

http://www.gifcrap.com/d/2024-1/Wayn...not+worthy.gif

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Originally Posted by elbamba

I am all in favor of paying more in taxes if someone would get serious about paying down the deficit. Right now I see no difference between red team and blue team. They both offer gimmicks and are afraid to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done because doing so, or telling the truth makes them unelectable.

The way I look at it, until that party/politician comes along, I will vote for the person that promises to take the least of my money so that I can pass it down to my kids, whose back we are weighing down with our current spending.

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The entire philosophy of the (Norquist-pledging) Repugs is to spend like hell, cut taxes, run up the deficit, then reduce govt until it's drownable in bathtub.

That strategy is blatant as hell. You expect Repugs to be "serious" about the deficit, like Ryan's twice-Repug-approved plan to increase the deficit by $5T+ in 10 years?

btw, a "small percentage" of population accounts for almost 50% of the total national income and wealth, too. Are we talking about the same percentage? :lol

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Originally Posted by Bill Kristol

It's worth recalling that a good chunk of the 47 percent who don't pay income taxes are Romney supporters—especially of course seniors (who might well "believe they are entitled to heath care," a position Romney agrees with), as well as many lower-income Americans (including men and women serving in the military) who think conservative policies are better for the country even if they're not getting a tax cut under the Romney plan. So Romney seems to have contempt not just for the Democrats who oppose him, but for tens of millions who intend to vote for him.

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ks_652548.html

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Originally Posted by elbamba

I am all in favor of paying more in taxes if someone would get serious about paying down the deficit. Right now I see no difference between red team and blue team. They both offer gimmicks and are afraid to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done because doing so, or telling the truth makes them unelectable.

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There is a big, huge screaming difference between the red and blue teams at this point.

The red team has signed, almost to a person, pledges to never, ever raise taxes, and have set up watchdog groups to enforce that pledge and discipline.

Those that comprimise on that, have been summarily politically executed for not being ideologically pure enough.

The Republican revolution is eating its children, and figuratively executing anyone who is not deemed "conservative" enough, just like real revolutions.

Most Democrats have some room to maneuver, and politically have stated some willingness to cut entitlements, *IF* taxes are raised at the other end to help meet in the middle.

Republicans, won't comprimise.

This was THE single reason that the US had its credit downgraded by Moody's. The tea party led rebellion and gridlock.

If you like, I would be more than willing to support each of those assertions. I read Moody's statement, I have watched conservatives get beaten in primaries by tea party insurgents, and seen the voting records and statements of the tea party representatives elected in 2010.

http://dailydish.typepad.com/.a/6a00...d424970d-550wi

so, Romney just gave the finger to millions of voters over 60. not smart.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

so, Romney just gave the finger to millions of voters over 60. not smart.

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Combine that with the other graphic, lol.

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/283265

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/283265

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" if they vote for big government now they will have to pay the bill later"

If they voted for ST Ronnie or dubya, they got much bigger govt and $Ts more in debt, but that's ok, those two clowns were Repugs.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Billshit. It's only going to piss off people who will not vote for him anyway. He's preaching to the choir.

I agree some wealthy don't pay taxes for one reason or another, but there is an IRS statistic that this number comes from. 47%+ of income tax filers pay no federal income tax, and many of them get more money back than they had taken out.

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horrible move, imo. the only people who aren't negatively affected are die hard red pom poms who will vote for him no matter what.
This hurts with independents. Republicans have now done what the Dems did with Kerry - manage to F up and election where they had president on the fence and could easily finish him off... just threw the worst candidate out there.

That pic by Chump is right on - Obama just has to not say/do anything controversial (and keep short leash on Biden) and this is his election to lose. T-ball swing.

:lmao at the blue team exuberant optimism in here.

This is only an election deal breaker in your minds.

"income tax filers pay no federal income tax, and many of them get more money back than they had taken out."

some mega-corps also pay no income tax, and some get $Bs in (taxpayers') cash back. When do you complain and whine about that?

If the rich game the tax system, you're silent. If the poor pay no taxes, you want to screw them hard.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

:lmao at the blue team exuberant optimism in here.

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you don't seem to have noticed the Red team pessimism. Brooks, Kristol, and Ponnuru are hardly blue team cheerleaders.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

you don't seem to have noticed the Red team pessimism. Brooks, Kristol, and Ponnuru are hardly blue team cheerleaders.

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Oh, no doubt it was stupid. Just don't think it's a deal breaker. The shit is hitting the fan with the economy and the Middle East/Africa/Afghanistan and this will be forgotten by election day.

Sticking To Their Guns: Ryan Echoes Romney’s ‘Dependency’ Comments

RYAN: And so, this is what Mitt and I are talking about when we’re worried about more and more people becoming net dependent upon the government than upon themselves. Because by promoting more dependency, but not having jobs and economic growth, people miss their potential. We should not be measuring the progress of our social programs, of programs like food stamps based up on how many people receive them…. We don’t want a safety net that encourages more dependency because there is no economic growth behind it.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...ency-comments/

Gecko and Ryan trashing the moochers, when Ms of those moochers need (good) jobs.

Why aren't "job creators" Gecko and Ryan talking about how they will create jobs for the moochers?

I don't disagree with Ryan's statement at all, as stated. But it's not what Romney said. And I'm pretty sure we have very different opinions on what constitutes "promoting dependency."

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

Oh, no doubt it was stupid. Just don't think it's a deal breaker. The shit is hitting the fan with the economy and the Middle East/Africa/Afghanistan and this will be forgotten by election day.

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Could cut either way. Mitt Romney isn't showing much aptitude for either the economy or foreign policy.

Team red better hope Romney didn't say anything else

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Mother Jones, which obtained video of Mitt Romney's remarks about the "47 percent" at a Boca Raton fundraiser, plans to release the full video later today, the magazine's co-editor Clara Jeffrey told POLITICO.

"We have the whole tape, which we're releasing later today," Jeffrey said. She said they would aim to release the tape "around mid-afternoon

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and on the latter, he is notably weak

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

so, Romney just gave the finger to millions of voters over 60. not smart.

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Its only not smart if they realize he's talking about them.