I notice blue team is conveniently ignoring the univision F&F expose...

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You're the one who agreed Obama is personally responsible then walked back, then doubled down.

Make up your mind.

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I'm not walking anything back dickhead.

I believe Holder at least, and probably POTUS knew exactly what they were doing in F&F. My belief can't be proven because POTUS invoked executive privilege on the documents Holder didn't want to disclose and allowed Holders justice department to investigate itself instead of allowing a special prosecutor. Either way, I hold POTUS responsible for F&F for appointing Holder, who was either complicit in the operation or totally incompetent for not knowing about it.

Well the reds tried to make the gulf spill his katrina so it would make sense to make the f&f debacle his watergate... so many conspiracy theories and not one of them has become the 'scandal' that the red team wants. it reeks of desperation..that is why I think this place is going to be fun if Obama wins re-election.. I can't wait!

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

I'm not walking anything back dickhead.

I believe Holder at least, and probably POTUS knew exactly what they were doing in F&F. My belief can't be proven because POTUS invoked executive privilege on the documents Holder didn't want to disclose and allowed Holders justice department to investigate itself instead of allowing a special prosecutor. Either way, I hold POTUS responsible for F&F for appointing Holder, who was either complicit in the operation or totally incompetent for not knowing about it.

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well if no one told him about the nitty gritty details..how is that incompetent?

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

Well the reds tried to make the gulf spill his katrina so it would make sense to make the f&f debacle his watergate... so many conspiracy theories and not one of them has become the 'scandal' that the red team wants. it reeks of desperation..that is why I think this place is going to be fun if Obama wins re-election.. I can't wait!

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How stupid can you fucking be? Nobody tried to blame the gulf spill on Obama. If anything, he was blamed for over reacting and shutting down all drilling in the gulf.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

well if no one told him about the nitty gritty details..how is that incompetent?

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Uhhh....it's called his JOB to know shit like that. This wasn't a secretary ordering paper clips.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

How stupid can you fucking be? Nobody tried to blame the gulf spill on Obama. If anything, he was blamed for over reacting and shutting down all drilling in the gulf.

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Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh called the oil slick "Obama's Katrina."

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010...ig-massive-oil

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

How stupid can you fucking be? Nobody tried to blame the gulf spill on Obama. If anything, he was blamed for over reacting and shutting down all drilling in the gulf.

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http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/0...lled-into-one/

RSEDITOR OF REDSTATEThe Gulf Oil Spill is Barack Obama’s Katrina and Halliburton All Rolled Into One
By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | May 5th, 2010 at 10:44 PM | 47

RESIZE:
AAA
There was the delayed response. There was the worrying about the image. There was the lack of resources. No, I’m not talking about Hurricane Katrina, but the Obama Administration’s handling of the British Petroleum oil spill.

But it gets better. It is not only like Bush’s Katrina, but like Halliburton too.

Turns out Barack Obama has gotten more money from British Petroleum than any other American politician. Not just that, but BP spent $15.9 million lobbying the Democrats and Obama last year.

The result of all that money to Obama? The Obama Administration exempted British Petroleum from an environmental drilling study.

Oh, and while the oil was spreading, the Interior Department Chief of Staff was white-water rafting on the Grand Canyon as part of a “work-focused” trip.

That’s like Obama’s Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, who stayed on a ski vacation post-Christmas instead of returning to deal with the panty-bomber.

These guys remain amateurs. They run a good campaign, but they can’t govern to save our lives.

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stupid..lol

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

stupid..lol

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You find some internet blog written by some nobody as your "proof"?

You might as well quote Boutons to prove the VRWC.

:lmao

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

How stupid can you fucking be? Nobody tried to blame the gulf spill on Obama. If anything, he was blamed for over reacting and shutting down all drilling in the gulf.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

You find some internet blog written by some nobody as your "proof"?


:lmao

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lol..so you didn't mean just somebody.. well then who are you referring to stupid?

You really are that stupid.

Nobody blamed the oil spill on Obama.

Do you have reading comprehension issues?

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

Well the reds tried to make the gulf spill his katrina so it would make sense to make the f&f debacle his watergate... so many conspiracy theories and not one of them has become the 'scandal' that the red team wants. it reeks of desperation..that is why I think this place is going to be fun if Obama wins re-election.. I can't wait!

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

lol..so you didn't mean just somebody.. well then who are you referring to stupid?

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Of course there were policy disagreements...specifically with the White House shutting down oil drilling in the gulf completely and even ignoring a federal judges order to reinstate drilling, but no one blamed the oil spill on Obama or thought there was anything he personally could do to stop the oil spill once it started. If they did, they were idiots.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

Of course there were policy disagreements...specifically with the White House shutting down oil drilling in the gulf completely and even ignoring a federal judges order to reinstate drilling, but no one blamed the oil spill on Obama or thought there was anything he personally could do to stop the oil spill once it started. If they did, they were idiots.

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I wasn't implying that anyone blamed Obama for the spill..rather the red team did what they could to try and make Obama look as bad over the handling of the spill as the blue teamers did to Bush over Katrina..

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I wasn't implying that anyone blamed Obama for the spill..rather the red team did what they could to try and make Obama look as bad over the handling of the spill as the blue teamers did to Bush over Katrina..

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Glad you cleared that up.

"blue teamers did to Bush over Katrina."

typically false equivalence, dubya's "MBA Whitehouse" folded a highly respected Clinton-FEMA into DHS and totally mismanaged it, and had that scumbag CNN-watcher Chertoff running it.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

Well the reds tried to make the gulf spill his katrina so it would make sense to make the f&f debacle his watergate... so many conspiracy theories and not one of them has become the 'scandal' that the red team wants.

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Not Really.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

wingnut blog

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Oh. Good. You found a wingnut to confim your suspicions.

Guess I'll just post a buncha youtube links, or Big Government links as opposing "evidence".

Political ramifications aside; I read that article, and watched quite a bit of the Univision piece yesterday. I am ashamed of my country, frankly. Allowing - (practically gift wrapping them) THAT many guns to cross the border and then be used to wreak havoc and violence in Mexico is pathetic and callous.

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Originally Posted by 101A

Political ramifications aside; I read that article, and watched quite a bit of the Univision piece yesterday. I am ashamed of my country, frankly. Allowing - (practically gift wrapping them) THAT many guns to cross the border and then be used to wreak havoc and violence in Mexico is pathetic and callous.

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sure, but did you notice that red teamer that started this thread has ignored the republican voter fraud thread like the plague?

Apple, meet parachute pants.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Apple, meet parachute pants.

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apple could probably sell those!

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Originally Posted by 101A

Political ramifications aside; I read that article, and watched quite a bit of the Univision piece yesterday. I am ashamed of my country, frankly. Allowing - (practically gift wrapping them) THAT many guns to cross the border and then be used to wreak havoc and violence in Mexico is pathetic and callous.

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There's been worse... ie: Nicaragua, Chile...

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Originally Posted by clambake

apple could probably sell those!

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iPants FTW!

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Originally Posted by clambake

sure, but did you notice that red teamer that started this thread has ignored the republican voter fraud thread like the plague?

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Fucking dumbass.

If it's true, why would I want to defend it?