Economist: The Next Crisis: Sponging Boomers

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

So as Boomers were entering retirement age, cuts to AFDC, WIC, unemployment etc were applicable to them?

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Yes. One needn't be of retirement age to be eligible for AFDC, WIC and unemployment. Nor is being of retirement age a disqualification that I know of.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

You should note that the Contract with America didn't do shit in regards to SS and Medicare the two Boomer gravy trains.

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I did. Thanks for noticing. You cited the Contract for America as bolstering your point; clearly, as you now admit, it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

As for the ACA i suppose it's not an entitlement cut but it does put the burden on everyone not a boomer as they are retiring from the workforce to pay for their health care. It's the opposite of an entitlement. For all intents and purposes it's a tax. Even SCOTUS agrees with me on that.

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It isn't. Glad you agree you misspoke. Carelessly overselling one's point seldom reflects well on credibility.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

I am legally required to contribute to their retirement while they leave me with higher tax rates for the rest of my life if I want to be anything resembling responsible.

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Yep. Sounds like you don't though. And that's not an entitlement cut, either. Resentful, much?

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

Yeah, too bad they never did it.

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Republicans had six years to get responsible, but they didn't. Ran up the tab instead. Grew the debt, the deficit and entitlements. Sent brave young men and women to die and be maimed for life, for essentially nothing. Probably to the national detriment, even.

Not that any of that prevents you from being a kneejerk red teamer. Show no weakness, right?

Soooo...."just die" and "go kill yourself" aren't just expressions of your generation, Fuzzy? They are actually intended to be the solution?

wishful thinking. he shares that in common with Homeland Security.

except, Homeland Security openly lobbies for the pogrom.

that at least is honest. sadly, can't say the same about FuzzyLamebrains.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Yes. One needn't be of retirement age to be eligible for AFDC, WIC and unemployment. Nor is being of retirement age a disqualification that I know of.

I did. Thanks for noticing. You cited the Contract for America as bolstering your point; clearly, as you now admit, it doesn't.

It isn't. Glad you agree you misspoke. Carelessly overselling one's point seldom reflects well on credibility.

Yep. Sounds like you don't though. And that's not an entitlement cut, either. Resentful, much?

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People that are entering retirement do not generally have dependent children. Most people's children are over 18 by the time they are 55 and thus will not get benefit from AFDC and WIC. when you are retired you are not working thus no unemployment.

My point about SS and medicare was that those are the entitlements that benefit them. They were not touched. Are you drinking or something? This is not hard to figure out.

ACA just points to another policy that harms everyone but Boomer's. As qualifiers for Medicare they will be precluded from the mandate whereas the rest of us have to deal with it.

And sounds like i don't what? Want to be responsible or pay for their retirement? last time i checked my taxes go towards SS and whatnot and as a responsible individual I support an increase in taxes including on myself. i am resentful that I have to do so but doing what I feel is right is doing what I feel is right.

The mantra of the boomers has always been 'when you get older you give up your ideals.' Well I do not do that. i do not forsake what i believe to be right out of greed and convenience and am willing to pay the price to do so. Always will be.

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Soooo...."just die" and "go kill yourself" aren't just expressions of your generation, Fuzzy? They are actually intended to be the solution?

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Huh? i am not advocating killing Boomers. For all of wine's characterizations that is just not the case. i am not a sociopath that is willing to kill for the sake of convenience.

What i am saying is that the rest of the electorate needs to be aware of the boomer agenda and take active steps to thwart it.

i like the idea of a wealth tax for example to get back some of that $2.2m per capita windfall they fiated themselves to actually pay in what should have been paid in over the past 30+ years.

I just want to operate within the political framework such as to get by until the boomers are no longer burdening us. that does not mean killing anyone but rather stopping majoritarianism gone amok.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

that at least is honest. sadly, can't say the same about FuzzyLamebrains.

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It's entertaining the level of butthurtedness I have engendered in you. Drink on, pumpkin.

entertained by your own dizziness?

if there's a silver lining to premature senility, you just found it.

You are behaving like WC with your blindly lashing out with nonsequitor insults. It's interesting watching your behavior deteriorate as the day goes on. You start doing this multipost thing and semicoherence.

Don't be a WC.

uh huh. I'll cede to your expertise on aping WC and semi-coherence.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

i like the idea of a wealth tax for example to get back some of that $2.2m per capita windfall they fiated themselves to actually pay in what should have been paid in over the past 30+ years.

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Hmmm, so that wealth tax collected would all be deposited into the SS coffers instead of helping to pay the interest note with China?

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Hmmm, so that wealth tax collected would all be deposited into the SS coffers instead of helping to pay the interest note with China?

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Debt is debt. We owe the money to China because of the tax cuts starting with the Reagan administration. SS, pay off debt, infrastructure, Medicare, etc.

The point is the ethic of this country needs to go back to responsibility rather than wrack up debt now and let someone else worry about it tomorrow. I do not exclude myself from this. I am willing to pay more in taxes but I just do not like the notion that an entire generation can run up debt for the entirety of their earning years and just ride off into the sunset without any accountability.

If you are still poor or of moderate wealth that is one thing but that $2.2m per capita went somewhere and it needs to come back. It's just wrong that it has been allowed and something needs to be done.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

uh huh. I'll cede to your expertise on aping WC and semi-coherence.

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Look drunkard, if you are going to go tossing out ad hominem at least make them sequitor to something.

You calling me senile is no different than him calling me a liar. It's just petulantly throwing shit out there hoping I will take it personally. You want to call me an adversarial dick then I agree with you. I am not nice and do not try to be. You want to make other commentary that is germane to things that i actually say/do then you will actually say something that I will find meaningful. We both know nobody else gives a shit about our diatribe.

When you just toss shit out there like that it is reminiscent of behavior you see from adolescents in secondary school. This is not just a mindless dig either. That is literally the type of behavior you see from 12 year old boys.

It reflects poorly on you and you can do better.

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Originally Posted by The Fuzzy Troll

You are behaving like WC with your blindly lashing out with nonsequitor insults. It's interesting watching your behavior deteriorate as the day goes on. You start doing this multipost thing and semicoherence.

Don't be a WC.

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Maybe nobody likes you.

Ever think of that?

lol "sequitor to something"

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Maybe nobody likes you.

Ever think of that?

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What difference does that make?

Nonsequitor ad hominem is nonsequitor ad hominem. It's worse than petty, it's base.

Everyone thinks you're a moron and that has been demonstrated. I would rather lose the popularity contest than be mocked as the village idiot. The best you can expect is pity.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

lol "sequitor to something"

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to, from oh well. Now you are resorting to grammar smack. You are lacking charm and wit at this point, pumpkin. Failing at virtues you espouse is fail.

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Originally Posted by The Fuzzy Troll

to, from oh well. Now you are resorting to grammar smack. You are lacking charm and wit at this point, pumpkin. Failing at virtues you espouse is fail.

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This...

From someone who lacks any understanding at all of someone elses point, and makes things up about them?

WH is 10 time smarter or more than you. You shouldn't try to razz him.

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Originally Posted by The Fuzzy Troll

Everyone thinks you're a moron and that has been demonstrated. I would rather lose the popularity contest than be mocked as the village idiot. The best you can expect is pity.

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No, only those incapable of understanding someone elses view actually thinks I'm not smart. Most the shit I get is because people don't like me. They will make fun of me in many ways, but it's because they are pitiful bullies like you. Not because they are smarter.

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The Fuzzy Troll isn't worth ruining another thread over.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

No, only those incapable of understanding someone elses view actually thinks I'm not smart. Most the shit I get is because people don't like me. They will make fun of me in many ways, but it's because they are pitiful bullies like you. Not because they are smarter.

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No, most people think you are stupid. Don't you recall the half dozen times i have asked the forum for anyone who contradicts this notion? You have yet to get a single advocate. This includes people that share your side of the political spectrum.

Sure we have had people come in and take shots at me but they never once have chosen to say that you are even of average intelligence. Quite the contrary. We have had several people come in and confirm that you are indeed dumb.

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps that it's not that people do not understand you? That perhaps it's you that do not understand what you are talking about?

Think about it. You admit that you have a learning disability. It's not outlandish whatsoever to think that everyone else is not wrong and your intellect has hampered your ability to understand things.

I know that you have said nothing that I have not felt that I had a firm grasp as to where you are coming from. I have discussed your methodology with you for quite some time at this point. Your motives and thought processes are very easy to see in my view. It's quite simple.

I realize that saying this is incisive and cruel but if you are going to post your stupid shit and then tell me that nobody likes me i think it's only fair that i point out how nobody respects your opinion and why. If nothing else wine will think I'm more of an asshole and talk shit to me while doing absolutely nothing to defend you.