How much longer do they give Blair?..

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12-13-2012
SpursRock20

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by Brunodf

:lolGarnett, overpayed old tosb can't even rebound or play any defense at this point, was abused by Splitter

Are you serious or just trolling? His team is first in defensive rating when he is on the court and is last when he is off of the court.
12-13-2012
Brunodf

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

Are you serious or just trolling? His team is first in defensive rating when he is on the court and is last when he is off of the court.

Serious. Spurs is also first in defense when Duncan is on the court, Wolves are 1st in defense when K.Love is on the court, the list goes on.
12-13-2012
SpursRock20

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by timvp

:smchode:

I can't believe you guys are willing to be burned by the Bonner stove once again. We haven't seen the "Bonner wins minutes in the regular season, Bonner starts putting up unbelievable plus/minus numbers, Bonner becomes a key cog on the bench, Bonner gets murdered in the playoffs" movie play enough times? Really?

We can pretend that a miracle trade will come along and rescue the Spurs from relying on Bonner or some other fortuitous turn of event will take place but that's likely wouldn't happen. What is likely to happen if the Spurs rely on Bonner is that he'll legitimately earn his regular season minutes before falling on his face come April. By then, it'll be difficult to become unaccustomed to that spacing he provides in the regular season.

I'm with you on this. But maybe Pop is just using his philosophy, the one about pounding the rock. Play Bonner enough times in the playoffs and he will finally come through for you :lol
12-13-2012
spurraider21

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For the past 2 reg seasons Blair had actually been pretty darn effective, but got yanked from the starting lineup the last month leading up into the playoffs. McDyess took his starting gig in 2010 and Diaw took it in 2011. Its not like Blair was being benched for performance reasons then, it was pretty out of nowhere. Now it just seems Blair has lost his confidence and is trying to do too much in order to earn playing time, instead of just playing his game
12-13-2012
SpursRock20

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by Brunodf

Serious. Spurs is also first in defense when Duncan is on the court, Wolves are 1st in defense when K.Love is on the court, the list goes on.

That "list" is terrible. First, making an example out of Duncan is stupid. We all know he is an elite defender so you are proving my point even further. Second, K.Love's sample size is way too small.
12-13-2012
TDMVPDPOY

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

For the past 2 reg seasons Blair had actually been pretty darn effective, but got yanked from the starting lineup the last month leading up into the playoffs. McDyess took his starting gig in 2010 and Diaw took it in 2011. Its not like Blair was being benched for performance reasons then, it was pretty out of nowhere. Now it just seems Blair has lost his confidence and is trying to do too much in order to earn playing time, instead of just playing his game

nah his been expose man when the league has found out his only schtick is circus shots and no jumpshot to speak of...fkn midget big....
12-13-2012
ElNono

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Originally Posted by timvp

We can pretend that a miracle trade will come along and rescue the Spurs from relying on Bonner or some other fortuitous turn of event will take place but that likely wouldn't happen. What is likely to happen if the Spurs rely on Bonner is that he'll legitimately earn his regular season minutes before falling on his face come April. By then, it'll be difficult to become unaccustomed to that spacing he provides in the regular season.

March, IMO
12-13-2012
TD 21

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A "miracle trade" isn't required, just one that brings in a decent enough fourth big. If worse comes to worst, they can just sign McDyess.

The fact that they haven't yet is somewhat surprising and I haven't heard a word about his situation since it was reported he was coming out of retirement. Could it be that they've told him to wait until they can make a trade that clears out a spot? And if they have, are they really just holding off to see if they can do better first?
12-13-2012
Brunodf

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

That "list" is terrible. First, making an example out of Duncan is stupid. We all know he is an elite defender so you are proving my point even further. Second, K.Love's sample size is way too small.

I didn't make the list, just said that there is a list of players that their teams lead the NBA when they are on the court. Garnett is an overpayed tosb, i would rather have D.West.
12-13-2012
timvp

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Originally Posted by TD 21

A "miracle trade" isn't required, just one that brings in a decent enough fourth big.

The Spurs have always been in the market for a decent big. Getting one is really damn hard without mortgaging your future, which the Spurs don't like to do. It may happen but it's far from easy or likely.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

If worse comes to worst, they can just sign McDyess.

The fact that they haven't yet is somewhat surprising and I haven't heard a word about his situation since it was reported he was coming out of retirement. Could it be that they've told him to wait until they can make a trade that clears out a spot? And if they have, are they really just holding off to see if they can do better first?

McDyess was close to done when he retired. After a season and a half off, chances are he's totally done. It'd take a miracle for him to be an NBA caliber player at this point, IMO.
12-13-2012
ElNono

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Dice and KMart are kind of overpriced because the vet minimum for them is like $1.3m... the Spurs would be tiptoeing with the luxury tax line... provided everyone stays healthy, it's kinda expensive for 5-10 mins of play during the playoffs...
12-13-2012
Bruno

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Meanwhile, the 7th best player in the PER ranking this year is Andray Blatche, a player a lot of posters wanted Spurs to take a gamble on...
12-13-2012
ElNono

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The huge issue for the Spurs going into the playoffs with the turd towers in the roster is what happens with foul trouble... Spurs would be forced to go small whether they like it or not (or completely suck)...
12-13-2012
Truckules

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Originally Posted by TD 21

A "miracle trade" isn't required, just one that brings in a decent enough fourth big.

Exactly. Their trade deadline moves last year proved that seemingly minor roster moves can net big gains.
12-13-2012
SpursRock20

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by Brunodf

I didn't make the list, just said that there is a list of players that their teams lead the NBA when they are on the court. Garnett is an overpayed tosb, i would rather have D.West.

By "terrible", I meant that your two examples sucked. Garnett gets payed just 1.5 million more than West, and would be much more valuable to the Spurs. I have always liked West, but something about Garnett and Duncan sharing the floor gets my blood flowing.
12-13-2012
SpursRock20

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Meanwhile, the 7th best player in the PER ranking this year is Andray Blatche, a player a lot of posters wanted Spurs to take a gamble on...

I'm one of them.
12-13-2012
Truckules

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Meanwhile, the 7th best player in the PER ranking this year is Andray Blatche, a player a lot of posters wanted Spurs to take a gamble on...

He looks like a completely different player. I guess the Spurs felt he had too many questions chemistry wise, but AJ has gotten him to play a lot smarter.
12-13-2012
TD 21

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Originally Posted by timvp

The Spurs have always been in the market for a decent big. Getting one is really damn hard without mortgaging your future, which the Spurs don't like to do. It may happen but it's far from easy or likely.

They should have the assets to get a decent fourth big without mortgaging their future. And if they don't, it's their own fault. As Bruno astutely pointed out, they could have had Blatche for the veteran's minimum. I know you'll say "no guarantee he picks them", but if they'd have guaranteed his contract and gave him a 2nd season, even at a team option, I can't imagine he turns them down. And you can knock him as a fit all you want, but don't pretend you wouldn't take him over Blair/Bonner right now.

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McDyess was close to done when he retired. After a season and a half off, chances are he's totally done. It'd take a miracle for him to be an NBA caliber player at this point, IMO.

He was, but are you telling me you wouldn't trust him more than Blair/Bonner in a playoff game? Besides, have you seen O'Neal (18.7 PER) or Wallace (16.8 PER) this season? Keep in mind, O'Neal is even more broken down than McDyess and Wallace is in worse shape.
12-13-2012
objective

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by timvp

:smchode:

I can't believe you guys are willing to be burned by the Bonner stove once again. We haven't seen the "Bonner wins minutes in the regular season, Bonner starts putting up unbelievable plus/minus numbers, Bonner becomes a key cog on the bench, Bonner gets murdered in the playoffs" movie play enough times? Really?

We can pretend that a miracle trade will come along and rescue the Spurs from relying on Bonner or some other fortuitous turn of event will take place but that likely wouldn't happen. What is likely to happen if the Spurs rely on Bonner is that he'll legitimately earn his regular season minutes before falling on his face come April. By then, it'll be difficult to become unaccustomed to that spacing he provides in the regular season.

Hey, I was hating on Bonner accurately long before anyone else, and well before you if I recall correctly. :toast

I don't want Bonner in there for his threes, but for his hustle compared to Blair. Blair can't defend 1-on-1, can't defend pick-and-rolls, can't help. And he doesn't do much else. But until Jackson comes back, I'm sick of Blair's heavy entitled nonsense crapping up games.
12-13-2012
DapDaGenius

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I hope Blair gets mad with another twitter rage and pretty much gets trade because of it. I don't care to where.

Was Blair a part of that (rumored???)trade to get Patrick Patterson?
12-13-2012
TDMVPDPOY

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i never seen a player in a contract year play like shit, blair must be the exception
12-13-2012
timvp

Re: How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by TD 21

They should have the assets to get a decent fourth big without mortgaging their future.

"Should" is the key word. They could have used a good fourth bigman for a long time now. Maybe they find one but I don't think it's anything close to a slam dunk.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

As Bruno astutely pointed out, they could have had Blatche for the veteran's minimum. I know you'll say "no guarantee he picks them", but if they'd have guaranteed his contract and gave him a 2nd season, even at a team option, I can't imagine he turns them down. And you can knock him as a fit all you want, but don't pretend you wouldn't take him over Blair/Bonner right now.

Preaching to the choir, tbh. I wanted Blatche. I saw him as a great low-risk, high-reward option. So far, that high-reward is winning out...

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Originally Posted by TD 21

He was, but are you telling me you wouldn't trust him more than Blair/Bonner in a playoff game? Besides, have you seen O'Neal (18.7 PER) or Wallace (16.8 PER) this season? Keep in mind, O'Neal is even more broken down than McDyess and Wallace is in worse shape.

Jermaine O'Neal is 34 and has the best trainers in the NBA propping him up.

Rasheed has never had a knee injury or any major injury AFIAK and can get away with sitting on the outside and launching threes.

In the playoffs, I'd rather have Leonard or Jackson at PF than McDyess unless by some miracle McDyess has reverted to 2010 form.

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Originally Posted by objective

Hey, I was hating on Bonner accurately long before anyone else, and well before you if I recall correctly. :toast

By saying you want Bonner to play, you reset that clock. Sorry. :smokin
12-13-2012
ElNono

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Originally Posted by timvp

By saying you want Bonner to play, you reset that clock. Sorry. :smokin

Objectively speaking, Blair has been that bad...

question for you... at this point, do you see Blair as an NBA player? in other words, do you think somebody is throwing the checkbook at him in the offseason?
12-13-2012
Bruno

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Originally Posted by Truckules

He looks like a completely different player. I guess the Spurs felt he had too many questions chemistry wise, but AJ has gotten him to play a lot smarter.

Yep, I'm not saying signing Blatche was a no-brainer for Spurs. It was a gamble that could have gone either way. However, what is sure is that if you don't bet, you don't win. Spurs made a timid bet with Eddy Curry in the training camp but they have to keep trying. They could bet on a player with questionable attitude like K-Mart, on an old player like Dyess or Ben Wallace, on an Euro like Aron Baynes..

Even if I've like how James Anderson has played this year with Spurs, Spurs better not use their last roster spot on him while they have such a big need inside.
12-13-2012
DapDaGenius

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Meanwhile, the 7th best player in the PER ranking this year is Andray Blatche, a player a lot of posters wanted Spurs to take a gamble on...

Yeah it would've been nice to have Blatche this year, but was it his decision to not be in SA or did they not want Blatche?

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