How much longer do they give Blair?..

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Objectively speaking, Blair has been that bad...

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Nobody who has seen the light on Bonner can ever go back and say "I Want Bonner" :smokin

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Originally Posted by ElNono

question for you... at this point, do you see Blair as an NBA player? in other words, do you think somebody is throwing the checkbook at him in the offseason?

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He's looked damn bad from his return from that turned ankle. But if you're talking season on a whole, he's still an NBA quality player. Bigs who have a history of putting up 15+ PER never go unsigned. That said, he shouldn't hold his breath for a multiyear deal or more than $3-4M at the very, very most.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Nobody who has seen the light on Bonner can ever go back and say "I Want Bonner" :smokin

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I get your point, and I definitely don't want him in the playoffs, but we're not going to 3peat the regular season championship with Blair playing this bad, tbh... and that has little to do with Matt (except that both of our SF are down and he's the only 'big' left)

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Originally Posted by timvp

He's looked damn bad from his return from that turned ankle. But if you're talking season on a whole, he's still an NBA quality player. Bigs who have a history of putting up 15+ PER never go unsigned. That said, he shouldn't hold his breath for a multiyear deal or more than $3-4M at the very, very most.

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I still think some teams are concerned about his knees, and there's nothing you can do about his size, tbh... I can see where he's signed to be a filler, but I think he's done a disservice to himself this season...

For December games without Kawhi or Jackson, if it comes down to Bonner or Blair getting 10 minutes, I'd rather it be Bonner, even if he doesn't hit threes. Because Blair is playing like he's bulletproof with a twitter tantrum in his back pocket.

Perhaps no one has been more spot on with regards to Spurs players in the playoffs than me (humbly speaking of course). Bonner is still trash who should be off the team. But Blair is doing what Bonner does in the playoffs right now. And here's a little secret, Danny Green the past few weeks is sure looking like he belongs right with them. I'm tiring of his act too.

Kevin Love is our only hope.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

I don't think Bonner's earned it, he's just, as you said, the lesser of two evils. He improves the spacing on offense and is a more sound defender. And with the way he's rebounding right now (though I fully expect him to come crashing back down to earth any game now), they wouldn't even lose much there. But the fact that we're still talking about either of these two having to consume a spot in this team's rotation is laughable.

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He spreads the floor! :lol

I honestly believe that Pop sees SJax as an above average small ball PF.. And if we make it far enough, we'll meed him to guard Small ball PF's Durant and Lebron anyway. Its a gamble. But i can see his train of thought.

I'd say trade him for whatever we can get, before his no-acl-knees implode/explode or whatever that's called.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Meanwhile, the 7th best player in the PER ranking this year is Andray Blatche, a player a lot of posters wanted Spurs to take a gamble on...

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Spurs are too busy farming back up PGs tbh...

The answer is to play Splitter more, like more than 25 mpg. Start Diaw. Play Bonner 10 minutes. Bench Blair. He is atrocious and I hate watching him. He has gone from promising to pathetic.

I'm starting to lose hope about him being useful. Give his minutes to Splitter and Diaw already.

No one wants Bonner to play but if its' a choice between Blair or Bonner, I choose Bonner all the way. Sure he chokes in the playoffs in terms of his 3 point shooting but he hussles his ass off and is usually in the right spot defensively even if he gets abused by some of the more physical 4s. Same goes for Blair but he has a lower BB IQ and his effort is suspect at times. I don't expect either of them to play much in the playoffs and Diaw will probably start. However, we still need a veteran 4 to complement Diaw's passive nature. K-Mart seems like a perfect candidate but I think Pop is hesitant to bring in such a big personality. One thing is clear, we need some physicality on the front line.

Blair looked terrible last night. He was sluggish and couldn't even drive up to the hoop. His attempts to score last night went miss, failure to even drive in the paint, and it concluded with a huge block which resulted in a Jazz fast break basket.

Regarding all the Blatche comments, IMO it is clear he has blossomed getting out from what appears to be one of the worst run/coached franchises in the league, the Bullets. Would anyone else here take a gamble on another young big who hasn't worked out for them and now sitting? What would you say to a trade based around Blair for Vesely?

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Originally Posted by pad300

Regarding all the Blatche comments, IMO it is clear he has blossomed getting out from what appears to be one of the worst run/coached franchises in the league, the Bullets. Would anyone else here take a gamble on another young big who hasn't worked out for them and now sitting? What would you say to a trade based around Blair for Vesely?

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Unlike Blatche, Vesely hasn't really shown many flashes of talent.

LOL Blatche. He is a shitty human being and lazy on the floor. Plays no D and is a chucker. LOL blaming the Wizards for that.

that being said Blatche >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Blair

they need to ship Blair out of here

Get a fucking big, any fucking big that isn't 6'6'' or a giant red haired pussy, thanks a lot. Bye.

In the playoffs Pop will start Boris and Timmy and Tiago and Jax will be the bigs off the bench

Don't forget about the buyout market. Last year Diaw fell in our laps out of the sky.

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Originally Posted by Truckules

Unlike Blatche, Vesely hasn't really shown many flashes of talent.

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We wouldn't have a shot at getting him if that was the case tbh.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Yep, I'm not saying signing Blatche was a no-brainer for Spurs. It was a gamble that could have gone either way. However, what is sure is that if you don't bet, you don't win. Spurs made a timid bet with Eddy Curry in the training camp but they have to keep trying. They could bet on a player with questionable attitude like K-Mart, on an old player like Dyess or Ben Wallace, on an Euro like Aron Baynes..

Even if I've like how James Anderson has played this year with Spurs, Spurs better not use their last roster spot on him while they have such a big need inside.

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Anderson costs about half of what KMart would and even that bumps them right up against the tax to the point where they may not keep him. It was pretty much just bad timing, KMart realized WAY too late that he was now a minimum guy. If he had come around a couple of weeks earlier, SA could have cut Blair in training camp at no cost, and signed KMart, staying a couple hundred grand under the tax.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Anderson costs about half of what KMart would and even that bumps them right up against the tax to the point where they may not keep him. It was pretty much just bad timing, KMart realized WAY too late that he was now a minimum guy. If he had come around a couple of weeks earlier, SA could have cut Blair in training camp at no cost, and signed KMart, staying a couple hundred grand under the tax.

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Nope. Signing KMart to the min for the rest of the season will cost exactly the same than Anderson and will keep below the tax with a comfortably margin.

When a experienced vet is signed to a 1 year or less min contract, teams only pay a part of his salary and only the part paid by the team count against the tax. This rule is made to ensure it's not harder for an experienced player to get a min contract.

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Originally Posted by timvp

But Bonner is a totally different animal. Regular Season Bonner provides fool's gold spacing that doesn't exist in the playoffs. Recent history goes like this: The bench comes to rely on that fool's gold spacing. They're able to run one play (Ginobili-Splitter pick-and-roll) because teams can't defend it in the regular season due to the spacing. Come the playoffs, the bench suddenly doesn't know what to do because that Bonner fool's gold spacing is gone. They can no longer rely on that one play and everything crumbles unless Manu pulls out heroics.

It's not worth potential regular season wins to go back to relying on fool's gold. It just isn't.

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Exactly.

Starting Blair is like spotting the other team a couple of points. Sure the Spurs will still win most games but it doesn't give them the best chance to win or set a defensive tone.

curry>blair, even with the defensive negatives of curry, his still a fkn 7ft u need to shoot over, unlike blair where players dont need to do anything and can still shoot over his midget ass