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What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
After weeks of only seeing the light at the end of the tunnel Friday's game will feature both of the Spurs small forwards on the active roster.
Since Popovich didn't start Diaw or Blair along side Duncan and Splitter during the absence of a small forward, is this a clue that he will not start Splitter since Leonard and Jax are back? Does it correlate?
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Re: What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
I believe Pop is serious about Tim/Tiago, I don't think it'll change when KY gets back.
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Re: What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
That Nando De Colo can play in the league.
We are still lacking at the PF/C spot (Blair/Bonner weak links).
Diaw against certain match ups, can play SF.
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Re: What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
Playing Diaw at SF makes him better on the offensive end, Blair will continue to be the worst player on the team for the entirety of the season, Bonner is actually pretty useful in the regular season as a change-of-pace-in-the-3rd type player, De Colo is clearly the best option for back up PG, and Neal still sucks even playing SG.
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I think Bonner's effort on the boards and on D have been commendable.
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Green should never again play SF.
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8FOR!3
I think Bonner's effort on the boards and on D have been commendable.
That's one of the positives.
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Pop's newfound commitment to the Duncan - Splitter combo is the one thing that gives me hope that the ceiling of this year's team will be higher than last's.
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Paranoid Pop
I believe Pop is serious about Tim/Tiago, I don't think it'll change when KY gets back.
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Originally Posted by
Uriel
Pop's newfound commitment to the Duncan - Splitter combo is the one thing that gives me hope that the ceiling of this year's team will be higher than last's.
I hope so. I remember that a pretty good frontcourt. If you get by KL's long arms you got two 7 footers waiting at the rim. It will allow us to shrink the court and play better defense on the perimeter.
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Green cannot play SF in the NBA.
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Originally Posted by
racm
Green cannot play SF in the NBA.
or PF(Porland game)
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Originally Posted by
Brunodf
or PF(Porland game)
Pop also went with a lineup of Parker/Mills/Ginobili/Green/Duncan in the Denver game.
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Originally Posted by
racm
Pop also went with a lineup of Parker/Mills/Ginobili/Green/Duncan in the Denver game.
He used that lineup with Neal instead of Mills in the late 4th and OT at Houston last week.
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Re: What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
That he needs either Leonard or Jack at SF.
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he learn when stern is not entertain cost the org 250k
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I think he learned that if Blair's punk ass finally gets injured, for an extended period of time, that he should test out Tyler Wilkerson.
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Apparently James Anderson's still not ready for the big leagues.
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is there really a difference between james and green?
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
is there really a difference between james and green?
Yes, an overly generous contract.
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
is there really a difference between james and green?
At first, I thought this was a silly question. Then I took a closer look...
D. Green Statistics - Per 36 Min
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GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 25 734 12.1 10.8 42% 6.7 38% 0.6 3.9 2.0 1.9 3.4
J. Anderson Statistics - Per 36 Min
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GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 10 94 13.0 9.6 44% 4.2 46% 3.4 5.4 3.4 2.7 15.7
While JA has a much smaller sample size and did most of his work in garbage time, his stats are better than Green's nearly across the entire board. :wow
They are also tied for DRtg, and Anderson has the better ORtg.
Still....I would take Green over Anderson any day. Anderson has flashes, but he is a streaky scorer and a terrible ball-handler.
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i think Pop learned that Small Forward is a completely legitimate NBA position that you can't simply ignore and plug somebody else in
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
is there really a difference between james and green?
Yes, JA can pass and play defense against SG/SF
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Originally Posted by
Dex
At first, I thought this was a silly question. Then I took a closer look...
D. Green Statistics - Per 36 Min
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GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 25 734 12.1 10.8 42% 6.7 38% 0.6 3.9 2.0 1.9 3.4
J. Anderson Statistics - Per 36 Min
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GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 10 94 13.0 9.6 44% 4.2 46% 3.4 5.4 3.4 2.7 15.7
While JA has a much smaller sample size and did most of his work in garbage time, his stats are better than Green's nearly across the entire board. :wow
They are also tied for DRtg, and Anderson has the better ORtg.
Still....I would take Green over Anderson any day. Anderson has flashes, but he is a streaky scorer and a terrible ball-handler.
no way JA shoots %46 from three over 36 min. green is a much better 3 point shooter
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Originally Posted by
Em-City
no way JA shoots %46 from three over 36 min. green is a much better 3 point shooter
These stats are what they are. What do you base your statement on, Intuition?
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I think Green has the better 3pt stroke overall, but I also think especially this year is shot selection is much more suspect. Its kinda a catch 22 -Green is trying to be confident in his stroke and raise his game another level but that often results in him taking difficult shots or doing too much. In his short stint with Spurs, JA was clearly not as confident in his stroke which resulted in him be alittle more hesistant to let it fly at times, and most of the 3 pointers he attempted were pretty much wide open and in the flow of the offense. Given bigger sample size JA percentage comes back down some, and if more of Green's attempts were similiar to the majority of JA's attempts, Danny's percentage would certainly go up
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Those stats are pretty eye-popping. James also got alot of garbage time minutes this year, and Danny Green starts games, so the stats are misleading somewhat, but still pretty surprising.
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Alcohol is the answer, he had to practically use gum to keep cabin pressure in the plane.
He really showed why he is coach of the year though
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Originally Posted by
Dex
At first, I thought this was a silly question. Then I took a closer look...
D. Green Statistics - Per 36 Min
Code:
GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 25 734 12.1 10.8 42% 6.7 38% 0.6 3.9 2.0 1.9 3.4
J. Anderson Statistics - Per 36 Min
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GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 10 94 13.0 9.6 44% 4.2 46% 3.4 5.4 3.4 2.7 15.7
While JA has a much smaller sample size and did most of his work in garbage time, his stats are better than Green's nearly across the entire board. :wow
They are also tied for DRtg, and Anderson has the better ORtg.
Still....I would take Green over Anderson any day. Anderson has flashes, but he is a streaky scorer and a terrible ball-handler.
statistical anomaly ...The Detroit Lions went 4-0 in preseason and went 0-16 in 2008
I actually likely Anderson in his second stint, he wasn't half bad but a fringe 15th player on a great team could be a rotation player if given the chance on a bad team.
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james anderson is the clown that got beat by green and KL moving up the roster rotations to starting 5....
with or without injuries, he didnt make the most of the limited minutes to show his game last season....
even this season, mills and colo look better then anderson
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Re: What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
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Originally Posted by
temujin
That he needs either Leonard or Jack at SF.
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Strategic
These stats are what they are. What do you base your statement on, Intuition?
I think he's balking at the small sample size for JA. He wouldn't be the first player to post great per 30 or per 48 minute stats in limited minutes.
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There's no doubt JA's three point numbers were padded during mop up time. He might have enhanced his chances of finding a team if he would have put together a couple of sell out moves and finishing with a dunk. That's something I thought he was capable of doing even though he didn't. Green is a spot up shooter capable of running Pop's offense hence he has a roster spot.
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Well, I'll add my 2 cents. Since his return its pretty obvious Stephen Jackson is pretty much washed up and cannot play small forward anymore. He is being touted as a stop-gap power forward (one of timvp's dumber ideas) maybe even dumber than his "Dejuan Blair needs to start!" thread..
Meanwhile, the guy the spurs should have signed a few years ago when he was available (Matt Barnes) is once again tearing it up in (this time in clipperland). I hate to say I told u so... but I told u so...
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
Well, I'll add my 2 cents. Since his return its pretty obvious Stephen Jackson is pretty much washed up and cannot play small forward anymore. He is being touted as a stop-gap power forward (one of timvp's dumber ideas) maybe even dumber than his "Dejuan Blair needs to start!" thread..
Meanwhile, the guy the spurs should have signed a few years ago when he was available (Matt Barnes) is once again tearing it up in (this time in clipperland). I hate to say I told u so... but I told u so...
I'm not sold on regular power forward Jackson, and after an injury it can take a few games to get your feet and legs back. That said you want Matt Barnes? Jastal please take your prescriptions for a few days so that you know what reality you are in before posting.
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
Well, I'll add my 2 cents. Since his return its pretty obvious Stephen Jackson is pretty much washed up and cannot play small forward anymore. He is being touted as a stop-gap power forward (one of timvp's dumber ideas) maybe even dumber than his "Dejuan Blair needs to start!" thread..
Meanwhile, the guy the spurs should have signed a few years ago when he was available (Matt Barnes) is once again tearing it up in (this time in clipperland). I hate to say I told u so... but I told u so...
I would never take Matt Barnes over Stephen Jackson, ever.
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
I would never take Matt Barnes over Stephen Jackson, ever.
Matt Barnes line tonight vs nuggets: 8-15, 8 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 20 points. If he keeps this up can you say, "6th man of the year"?
So when is the last time Stephen Jackson put up a line like that? Even as a starter.... good luck on your research....
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
Matt Barnes line tonight vs nuggets: 8-15, 8 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 20 points. If he keeps this up can you say, "6th man of the year"?
So when is the last time Stephen Jackson put up a line like that? Even as a starter.... good luck on your research....
Stephen Jackson has done roughly that twice in his career
| Rk |
Age |
Date |
Tm |
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Opp |
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GS |
MP |
FG |
FGA |
FG% |
3P |
3PA |
3P% |
FT |
FTA |
FT% |
ORB |
DRB |
TRB |
AST |
STL |
BLK |
TOV |
PF |
PTS |
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| 1 |
32-229 |
2010-11-20 |
CHA |
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PHO |
W |
1 |
37 |
10 |
13 |
.769 |
4 |
7 |
.571 |
0 |
0 |
|
1 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
2 |
2 |
4 |
4 |
24 |
| 2 |
24-299 |
2003-01-29 |
SAS |
@ |
IND |
W |
1 |
39 |
7 |
11 |
.636 |
1 |
2 |
.500 |
3 |
4 |
.750 |
1 |
8 |
9 |
6 |
1 |
3 |
4 |
2 |
18 |
Matt Barnes has done roughly that three times in his career (including last night)
| Rk |
Age |
Date |
Tm |
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Opp |
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GS |
MP |
FG |
FGA |
FG% |
3P |
3PA |
3P% |
FT |
FTA |
FT% |
ORB |
DRB |
TRB |
AST |
STL |
BLK |
TOV |
PF |
PTS |
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| 1 |
29-016 |
2009-03-25 |
PHO |
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UTA |
W |
1 |
35 |
8 |
14 |
.571 |
1 |
4 |
.250 |
4 |
5 |
.800 |
0 |
9 |
9 |
5 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
2 |
21 |
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32-018 |
2012-03-27 |
LAL |
@ |
GSW |
W |
0 |
30 |
7 |
10 |
.700 |
3 |
5 |
.600 |
1 |
2 |
.500 |
2 |
8 |
10 |
3 |
0 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
18 |
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Re: What did Pop learn during the absence of both small forwards?
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Originally Posted by
Dex
At first, I thought this was a silly question. Then I took a closer look...
D. Green Statistics - Per 36 Min
Code:
GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 25 734 12.1 10.8 42% 6.7 38% 0.6 3.9 2.0 1.9 3.4
J. Anderson Statistics - Per 36 Min
Code:
GP MIN PTS FGA FG% 3PA 3P% FTA REB AST PF +/-
Overall 10 94 13.0 9.6 44% 4.2 46% 3.4 5.4 3.4 2.7 15.7
While JA has a much smaller sample size and did most of his work in garbage time, his stats are better than Green's nearly across the entire board. :wow
They are also tied for DRtg, and Anderson has the better ORtg.
Still....I would take Green over Anderson any day. Anderson has flashes, but he is a streaky scorer and a terrible ball-handler.
The "while" part is the key. Garbage time stats are garbage.
