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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
Does Kawhi have a post-up game?
I virtually never see him attempt a post-up but tonight he did once successfully. Did he play in the post in college much? Or from his sporadic post-ups in the NBA have you(anyone) seen anything impressive?
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
Thanks for the grades.
Pop will have to figure how to use all that depth. My guess is that his first move will be to cut Bonner minutes and play some small ball with Kawhi or Jack at the 4.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
Hero Ball is awful at PG. Nando is 10 times better. I don't mind Hero Ball seeing some minutes at SG (~10 minutes or so), but he should not play backup PG. Nando proved his worth tonight while Hero Ball was total shit.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Originally Posted by
Nathan89
Does Kawhi have a post-up game?
I virtually never see him attempt a post-up but tonight he did once successfully. Did he play in the post in college much? Or from his sporadic post-ups in the NBA have you(anyone) seen anything impressive?
He did a lot of it in Summer League, so it seems like something he's been working on to add to his game. Whether that's him or the coaches obviously it's a smart move. He has such a knack for getting to the ball under the rim, he's so strong and agile, that anything that puts him, with the ball, near the rim is probably going to turn out well. lol
Imagine playing a big lineup of Duncan/Splitter/Diaw, and Kawhi taking the other team's two guard to the block 5 possessions in a row. I don't think Kawhi has any trouble D'ing up NBA two guards, so it'd be like a guaranteed two baskets and then a time out by the opposing team's coach. Now that he's back he can actually start working this stuff into his game at NBA speed, then we'll see how much of the hype is justified (I'm thinking a lot of it :greedy )
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
Thanks for the grades. I think Neal himself was none too pleased with his game tonight. He looked disgusted on the bench after he was taken off the floor. While I thought he started the game with some real energy on defense, he got seriously lit up in the second half. Not surprisingly it seemed to really go to hell for him when he was playing the 1. I noticed several plays in a row where he gave up lay-ups by losing his man. He made all their pg's look like TP, as if he was not capable of staying with them. You add that to a poor night of scoring and you have a big liability.
All this being said, I'm a fan of Neal, and think his ability to hit shots is an undeniable strength for our team. Tonight was a bad night for him, on several levels. Glad for the win nonetheless.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
lol intent to chuck
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Originally Posted by
Nathan89
Does Kawhi have a post-up game?
Right before he was sidelined, the Spurs had starting calling some post-ups for him. It's good to see that they didn't abandon that strategy. It's a good way to give him a few touches and take advantage of his size.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
lol intent to chuck
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Bruno
Thanks for the grades.
Pop will have to figure how to use all that depth. My guess is that his first move will be to cut Bonner minutes and play some small ball with Kawhi or Jack at the 4.
Yea well we do agree on that but IMO we have to wait for the ASB and after it Pop will have his rotation. He always at the break does the rethinking and plan for the rest of the season. Let's hope the rotation will be set.
It's difficult to choose between Mills and Neal and now De Colo.
IMO the froncourt is much more easier. Now Blair is a garbage man and the trick is to find the place for Bonner as we have to deal with Boris as a first man of the bench.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Originally Posted by
spurs10
think Neal himself was none too pleased with his game tonight. He looked disgusted on the bench after he was taken off the floor.
Nah Neal always looks like that.
But seriously if this wasn't an F grade performance from Neal I shudder to think what an F would look like.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
SO interested for the trade period. Something has GOT to give, you just cant have Mills, De Colo, Joseph and Neal in the team with Bonner, Blair and Green and not have enough pieces to to get a decent trade. If all the recent rotations have told us anything, its that ALL 7 players can be replaced without any fuss, they are all expendable.... trade-able.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
7 boards in 27 minutes is crashing the glass hard? Not trying to be sarcastic, I really am curious.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Manufan909
7 boards in 27 minutes is crashing the glass hard? Not trying to be sarcastic, I really am curious.
Tiago hasn't crashed the defensive glass well this year.
That said, if Kawhi becomes the second guy with a good post game on this team I am legitimately excited for the future. If KL can score from the post, hit threes, and drive from time to time he can add a wrinkle to the Spurs offense that's been lacking recently.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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racm
That's the problem with giving older coaches like Pop stacked teams. They have a tendency to go mad scientist instead of sticking with what works.
It's ironic Pop is able to do more with less but less with more.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Originally Posted by
polandprzem
Yea well we do agree on that but IMO we have to wait for the ASB and after it Pop will have his rotation. He always at the break does the rethinking and plan for the rest of the season. Let's hope the rotation will be set.
Pop did the same thing in 09-10. He couldn't figure out a rotation even after AllStar break. The only thing that helped him was Finley wanting out and Parker going down with an injury.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
I'm not one to criticize Tony often, but he ended having to fix the mess he himself created. All in all, C was probably more appropriate for TP. He can't take such a severe crap on the game because against good teams we're not coming back from it.[/QUOTE]
:lol:lol:lolCome on, E-N, at least put that in blue!
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Manufan909
7 boards in 27 minutes is crashing the glass hard? Not trying to be sarcastic, I really am curious.
All his boards were contested, he boxes out, but i agree his grade is too high...
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Brunodf
All his boards were contested, he boxes out, but i agree his grade is too high...
He has not hops and he also lost some weight, making it harder to fight for position.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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AussieFanKurt
Mills? DNP - CD after nuggets. Is he injured?
nah man, he was running well & making a good amount of his shots during both pre-game shootaround & pre-second half shootaround.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Stabula
Nah Neal always looks like that.
But seriously if this wasn't an F grade performance from Neal I shudder to think what an F would look like.
He only missed 3 shots. So there's that.
If he went like 2-12, that would have done a lot more damage to our offense. He knew he didn't have it tonight and pulled the reigns in instead of shooting 6-24.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
No words to express how happy I am to see Leonard back. Looked darn good in his limited minutes. :tu
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
I only disagree with Boris Diaw's grade. He should have a B or B-. Ryan Anderson could have easily killed the win if he had hit the open 3's late in the game. Diaw had the assignment of covering him and spent most of his time playing with the screens and trying to help on the guards leaving Anderson open. Thank the good Lord, Anderson was off a little on the shots or we would be looking at a loss.
One other question for you Timvp, is Bonner having back problems? It looks to me like he has been able to go a few games but lacks the movement he normally has in other games. His shot has looked a little off this season. Even though he is hitting 49 % from 3, it still looks a little like he is not getting the lift on the shot. Maybe his back is giving him trouble.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
Manu had a good game full of intangibles tbh
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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maverick1948
I only disagree with Boris Diaw's grade. He should have a B or B-. Ryan Anderson could have easily killed the win if he had hit the open 3's late in the game. Diaw had the assignment of covering him and spent most of his time playing with the screens and trying to help on the guards leaving Anderson open. Thank the good Lord, Anderson was off a little on the shots or we would be looking at a loss.
One other question for you Timvp, is Bonner having back problems? It looks to me like he has been able to go a few games but lacks the movement he normally has in other games. His shot has looked a little off this season. Even though he is hitting 49 % from 3, it still looks a little like he is not getting the lift on the shot. Maybe his back is giving him trouble.
Anderson was 5-18 or something like that at one point. I'd applaud Diaw for challenging a guy shooting under 30% for the night to keep chucking.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
Bonner shot about 100 3's before the game and didn't seem injured a bit. His shot looked good. Don't recall him playing much in the game though. I really liked the rotation between Tim, Tiago, and Boris.
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Re: Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Hornets - Dec. 21
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Originally Posted by
maverick1948
I only disagree with Boris Diaw's grade. He should have a B or B-. Ryan Anderson could have easily killed the win if he had hit the open 3's late in the game. Diaw had the assignment of covering him and spent most of his time playing with the screens and trying to help on the guards leaving Anderson open. Thank the good Lord, Anderson was off a little on the shots or we would be looking at a loss.
Anderson only attempted two three-pointers in the fourth quarter. Both came in transition early in the shot clock after the Hornets stole the ball. I don't think Diaw had a lot of blame there.
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maverick1948
One other question for you Timvp, is Bonner having back problems? It looks to me like he has been able to go a few games but lacks the movement he normally has in other games. His shot has looked a little off this season. Even though he is hitting 49 % from 3, it still looks a little like he is not getting the lift on the shot. Maybe his back is giving him trouble.
If you're talking recently, he got kneed in the ribs recently and could be slowed from that. If you're talking the whole season, I'd blame his age. At 32 and not athletic to begin with, he's the age where he'll noticeably begin to slow down.