Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
timvp
Parker obviously tried to sell it but I don't think it was a complete flop. Firstly, Parker rarely ever flops out of bounds like that (for example, Bonner does that about 10% of the time when going for rebounds ... and probably about 30-40% of the time when boxing out a physical rebounder like Zach Randolph). Secondly, the game was basically over so there was really no point to try to draw a foul there ... especially against Toney Douglas.
But, yeah, whatever, a warning isn't a big deal. Parker tried to sell it and that technically goes against the new flop rule. Then again, there should be many more warnings handed out if they are going to penalize a player for such an inconsequential play that was probably a legit foul (or at least a borderline foul) to begin with.
Meh.
Not to sound pedantic, but I am all for the refs not considering the score or the time on the clock when calling fouls or these things. Too often I hear that a ref should swallow his whistle if it's near the end of a game and the score is lopsided, but that's about the same concept as running a red light at night when there's no one in sight (but a cop). They won't let it go and they shouldn't. I think the arbitrary foul calling is bad enough, but to have people like Sean Elliott and other commentators mention home calls vs road calls, superstar calls vs rookie calls and how different points in the game should have different thresholds for fouls actually discredits the integrity of the game. We don't do that with the NFL. A team can be up 40 points with 20 seconds left and a pass interference is still a pass interference, offsides is offsides and so forth.
NBA refs should not have carte blanche to affect the outcome of the game. They should ref the same, always, at least as much as possible.
I realize you weren't suggesting otherwise, just that they have to consider that Parker had no motive to flop (other than maybe getting to the line to pad his stats). I just rather them not consider any of that or show bias for or against a player based on fouls they've committed in the past.
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Libri
Tony getting a flop warning before Manu. :lol
Many shitting on Tony once again :lol
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DMC
Not to sound pedantic, but I am all for the refs not considering the score or the time on the clock when calling fouls or these things. Too often I hear that a ref should swallow his whistle if it's near the end of a game and the score is lopsided, but that's about the same concept as running a red light at night when there's no one in sight (but a cop). They won't let it go and they shouldn't. I think the arbitrary foul calling is bad enough, but to have people like Sean Elliott and other commentators mention home calls vs road calls, superstar calls vs rookie calls and how different points in the game should have different thresholds for fouls actually discredits the integrity of the game. We don't do that with the NFL. A team can be up 40 points with 20 seconds left and a pass interference is still a pass interference, offsides is offsides and so forth.
NBA refs should not have carte blanche to affect the outcome of the game. They should ref the same, always, at least as much as possible.
I realize you weren't suggesting otherwise, just that they have to consider that Parker had no motive to flop (other than maybe getting to the line to pad his stats). I just rather them not consider any of that or show bias for or against a player based on fouls they've committed in the past.
Does Mr. Stern's league care for integrity as much as it does the almighty dollar and marketing professional basketball as entertainment first and sport second?
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
timvp
Just about every point guard in the NBA does this.
Yep......
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Goddamn flop warnings. Stern and the NBA are going to nickel and dime the Spurs
Anyone remember the Elton Brand push from tonight that sent Parker flying out of bounds? I didn't get a good enough look
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKh8Zq6zhRc
Funny video on flopping(none from this season).
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Tony got a fucking warning for that? How was that a flop? He clearly got pushed in the back, and then looked to be jumping and reaching out to try get the rebound anyway. Fucka gets pushed, then tries to grab the loose ball anyway and gets a warning? Bad call right there. That was not a fucking flop.
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
DapDaGenius posted a funny set of Flopping. Great Collection man. Props. Tony's definately wasn't a flop compared to those idiotic ones!
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Homer here, but what I saw was Parker being surprised by the rebound and awkwardly jumping for the the ball. Non-call, no flop.
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Drz
:lol Exactly. If the roles were reversed and Parker gave a little love tap to opponent and the opponent went flying out of bounds Spurfan would be justifiably calling b.s.
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
timvp
Just about every point guard in the NBA does this.
Stop the BS, LJ :lol
Defending Parker :lol
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Tony was jumping laterally for the RB and that carried him out of bounds.
NBA can go fnck itself.
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
lefty
Stop the BS, LJ :lol
True, sorry. The "just about" was unnecessary.
Every point guard in the NBA does that. It's standard operating procedure to flail and yell when you get the ball stripped. Hell, CP3 is the best PG in the game and he flails, yells, takes out his mouthpiece and stomps around the court for the next minute screaming at each individual ref when he gets the ball stripped going to the basket.
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
So according to all warnings and fines how many flops does the league think there have been all season? In reality there are probably a few each game
Re: tony parker gets a flop warning
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Technique
How was that a flop. He overextended and recovered without any whining or pretending to be hurt.
This. He went for the rebound, whiffed, and fell. Totally not a flop.
Fuck Stern.