Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by smeagol
Fans in Argentina, like the article mentions, acknowledge that Tim is the rightfull winner of the MVP award. The only ones that don't, are the casual fans and there is not much that can be done about it. Moreover, you should not worry about those.
Alright. Maybe fans who know better agree with Tim being the MVP, but don't pretend these "casual fans" don't outnumber these others.
I've seen it on the news, heard about it; of fans who are angry because the award wasn't given to Manu. And you have to conclude that the majority of these are from Argentina, who (no offense) are fans of the Spurs only because their compatriot is in the team. And I'm positive that most would bandwagon to whichever team Manu landed in.
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame them, nor resent them for that. However, they're pushing it by not acknowledging Tim as being the reason the Spurs are in the Finals in the first place, and expecting the MVP award to be given to Manu just because he's from their country. That's the only reason I'm resenting them.
We've been fans of the Spurs for years, long before Manu was even drafted. So you cannot expect us not to react like we're doing when our boy, Timmy, who this whole city adores, is disrespected like he is.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by TOP-CHERRY
Alright. Maybe fans who know better agree with Tim being the MVP, but don't pretend these "casual fans" don't outnumber these others.
I've seen it on the news, heard about it; of fans who are angry because the award wasn't given to Manu. And you have to conclude that the majority of these are from Argentina, who (no offense) are fans of the Spurs only because their compatriot is in the team. And I'm positive that most would bandwagon to whichever team Manu landed in.
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame them, nor resent them for that. However, they're pushing it by not acknowledging Tim as being the reason the Spurs are in the Finals in the first place, and expecting the MVP award to be given to Manu just because he's from their country. That's the only reason I'm resenting them.
We've been fans of the Spurs for years, long before Manu was even drafted. So you cannot expect us not to react like we're doing when our boy, Timmy, who this whole city adores, is disrespected like he is.
First of all what you're saying has absolutely nothign to do with that article. Furthermore, last I checked bandwagon fans outnumber real fans EVERYWHERE!! and noone here is arguing otherwise. Why would you resent someone that bases their opinion on nationality rather than actual skill? Seriously, you can resent them all you want, but its just stupid. and noone is disrespecting Tim! I don't know where you got that! Bandwagon fans over here love Tim, they just love Manu more; can you blame them?? Also if you think that Argentinians are disrespecting Tim because they think Manu should have won the MVP then you should focus on those 4 reporters that vote for Manu on from your own country.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA
First of all what you're saying has absolutely nothign to do with that article.
Did I say it did? But the subject is about Finals MVP, and Manu and Tim, so I added my thoughts. No crime in that.
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA
Furthermore, last I checked bandwagon fans outnumber real fans EVERYWHERE!! and noone here is arguing otherwise. Why would you resent someone that bases their opinion on nationality rather than actual skill? Seriously, you can resent them all you want, but its just stupid.
Well, the only way you would know how it felt to be in our shoes is if well... you were in our shoes. ;) Their only intention is to make Manu the recipient of accolade, which is mere country pride, which is completely expected. The only time this becomes too ridiculous is when they don't like Timmy getting the award, when he deserved it a lot more. It is "Finals MVP" which means the WHOLE finals series, in which Timmy was constant, when Manu was not.
I guess I'm going a little overboard with this, but you have to understand us too. Some are less tolerant than others when it comes to bandwagoners trying to undermine our "bread and butter", as someone put it earlier.
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and noone is disrespecting Tim! I don't know where you got that! Bandwagon fans over here love Tim, they just love Manu more; can you blame them?? Also if you think that Argentinians are disrespecting Tim because they think Manu should have won the MVP then you should focus on those 4 reporters that vote for Manu on from your own country.
Noone? You can't be too sure about that.
And no, I don't blame them for loving Manu more, as you can't blame us for loving Timmy more, and defending his importance to our team.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
I wonder why masterminds of NBA read Argentinian Articles???
We are clueless about basketball. You should spend time on something more interesting.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by Spuritista
I wonder why masterminds of NBA read Argentinian Articles???
We are clueless about basketball. You should spend time on something more interesting.
.... :rolleyes
Jolly, In Aus we have the MVP award for basketball (NBL) and the equivilant in other sports however it may not be called the MVP. Titles such as "best and fairest" in Aussie Rules but it is essentially an MVP count with the exception that you are excluded if you have had a suspension.
This is the same in most places as far as I know and I don't see a problem with it. With the way the media views team success in voting for these awards it hard to not be a team player and win. Part of being the best is making those around you better. The true candidates understand this so there is no problem in my book.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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[B]We've been fans of the Spurs for years, long before Manu was even drafted. So you cannot expect us not to react like we're doing when our boy, Timmy, who this whole city adores, is disrespected like he is.
Top-Cherry , you just said the words outta my mind...:D
i hope this debate will end soon. I don't want to start hating a Spur like Manu just bec. of this you know.... :rolleyes
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by TOP-CHERRY
I've seen it on the news, heard about it; of fans who are angry because the award wasn't given to Manu. And you have to conclude that the majority of these are from Argentina,
I have not heard this on the news. If you have, it has to be related to people in SA, not people in Argentina.
Since when does the local media focus on Argentina? American reporters probably believe Argentina is part of Brazil.
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Originally Posted by TOP-CHERRY
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame them, nor resent them for that. However, they're pushing it by not acknowledging Tim as being the reason the Spurs are in the Finals in the first place, and expecting the MVP award to be given to Manu just because he's from their country. That's the only reason I'm resenting them.
What are you talking about?
They expected Manu winning the MVP award because had a real chance of getting it. People at the SBC center were chantting "MVP, MVP" in games one and two and again in game seven. Last time I checked, its Americans who go to watch Spurs games at the SBC. Or maybe Manu's familiy members have really loud voices :lol
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Originally Posted by TOP-CHERRY
We've been fans of the Spurs for years, long before Manu was even drafted. So you cannot expect us not to react like we're doing when our boy, Timmy, who this whole city adores, is disrespected like he is.
Again talking about disrespect when nobody is disrispecting Timmy. As MaNuMaNiA said, don't focus so much on the Argentines. Focus on the four judges who voted for Manu, including San Antonio's J. Ludden (who is not Argentine, by the way).
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by milkyway21
i hope this debate will end soon. I don't want to start hating a Spur like Manu just bec. of this you know.... :rolleyes
:rolleyes forum
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
Who cares as to who voted for who?
Duncan won a legitimate MVP ballot theres no more that needs to be said on the matter.
Tim Duncan is the 2005 Finals MVP!
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by xcoriate
Who cares as to who voted for who?
Duncan won a legitimate MVP ballot theres no more that needs to be said on the matter.
Tim Duncan is the 2005 Finals MVP!
and noone is arguing against it, ABSOLUTELY NOONE! the article just mentioned how close Manu was, that's all.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA
Yo Marcus, would you shut the fuck up with the Manu mob shit already!! You're a member of the Tony Parker church and you don't see anyone throwing that in your face! Quit while you're behind
Suck a dick.
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
c'mon guys, can't we all just get along?
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA
the article just mentioned how close Manu was, that's all.
:rolleyes
Who cares?
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Originally Posted by xcoriate
Duncan won a legitimate MVP ballot theres no more that needs to be said on the matter.
Tim Duncan is the 2005 Finals MVP!
Re: Article in Bahia Blanca newspaper details Finals MVP voting
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Originally Posted by xcoriate
:rolleyes
Who cares?
The newspaper is from Bahia Blanca, there's the people that care about it the most, so that's why the newspaper put it.
See? It's easy.
